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On December 25 2015 07:04 Yonnua wrote:
Article will probably have Stephano first because historically the TL writers have preferred him to Naniwa.
However, if they want to be consistent with their GOAT article released recently, they should preference Nani over Stephano; all the consistency arguments that applied to Mvp apply moreso to Nani than to Stephano.
It's a moot point now - the GOAT is outdated already. Life has cemented himself as #1 for now, having made another Blizzcon finals since the list came out.
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Im hoping for some sweet liquid bias so people get really upset :D
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United States97274 Posts
On December 25 2015 10:04 Phredxor wrote:
Im hoping for some sweet liquid bias so people get really upset :D
I think the Bunny and Jinro so low is a smokescreen to pretend like liquid bias is gone, but then they are gonna drop Snute #1 on us
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Just based of results it has to be Nani/Stephano in first/second. Than I honestly believe it would be Huk as third just based off of premier wins and gsl. Snute could also be third but I think anything other than those four for the top four would be weird. Love Scarlett/Mana/Duran Bros/Nerchio but the results to those four just are not there.
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I think having Snute as third after the two obvious choices makes sense.
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On December 25 2015 10:26 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I think having Snute as third after the two obvious choices makes sense.
It's damn hard to argue with Huk's trophy case, though.
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A really nice read, congrats to the author, and thank you. Merry Christmas xD
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On December 25 2015 06:32 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2015 04:51 HuK wrote:
If I don't get top 3 I'm going to be pissed. dat top 3 controlderrrrr. Kind of confused why Scarlett isn't higher up on a lot of people's lists.
Aww, you stole my joke! 
Are we doing a list of best control after this?
Huk for top 3!
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On December 25 2015 06:32 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2015 04:51 HuK wrote:
If I don't get top 3 I'm going to be pissed. dat top 3 controlderrrrr. Kind of confused why Scarlett isn't higher up on a lot of people's lists.
she doesn't have the results. the highest you can put her is 5, behind stephano, nani, huk, and snute. there's no argument to put her above those players.
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So the 10 should be:
Idra, Huk, Naniwa, Stephano, Scarlett, Snute for sure... Who else is there. Kiwikaki, QXC, Sen, Kas, White-ra, Hasu, Vortex, Lucifron, Ret, TLO, Mana, Major.
Id imagine that everyone from the top 10 should come from this list.
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On December 25 2015 10:14 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2015 10:04 Phredxor wrote:
Im hoping for some sweet liquid bias so people get really upset :D I think the Bunny and Jinro so low is a smokescreen to pretend like liquid bias is gone, but then they are gonna drop Snute #1 on us
The justification for Jinro being low (weaker competition) could also be used to rank Snute really high. (beating KesPA players in multiple tournaments)
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I guess I'm just echoing what others are saying, but the Jinro one is a little bit surprising. That had to be far and away the biggest achievement of a foreigner in SC2. And it wasn't just that he did it, but how he did. He was playing a pretty unique tank style if I remember correctly and had some wonderful games.
I guess we all have our own criteria. But I just find someone winning foreigner tournaments extremely less meaningful than the Korean tournaments.
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two first places have to b stephano and naniwa
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On December 25 2015 11:57 FiWiFaKi wrote:
So the 10 should be:
Idra, Huk, Naniwa, Stephano, Scarlett, Snute for sure... Who else is there. Kiwikaki, QXC, Sen, Kas, White-ra, Hasu, Vortex, Lucifron, Ret, TLO, Mana, Major.
Id imagine that everyone from the top 10 should come from this list.
I'd imagine you're crazy.
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Katowice25012 Posts
White-Ra won an IPL yo, over Idra too. He dope.
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United States7483 Posts
On December 25 2015 14:22 Heyoka wrote:
White-Ra won an IPL yo, over Idra too. He dope.
Special Tactics > All
Plus he's everywhere.
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HayprO #1, almost knocked out Nestea and Mvp in the same tournament when they were both doing their godmode thing!
But really, I think it's Stephano/NaNiwa top 2 and Scarlett/Snute right after. Maybe HuK slips into the top 5 because he stuck around in Code S for a long time?
I know Scarlett doesn't have a bunch of titles to her name, but I remember there were a few months where she was a serious contender against anyone in the world. I can only think of a handful of foreigners that ever felt quite as dangerous.
P.S. Remember when she beat DongRaeGu in MLG... as protoss?!
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Naniwa got into the IEM finals in a time where he had to beat players like San and Hyun to do that while Snute got top 8 in a time where he had to beat players like Classic and Rain to do that.
You can't just look at the result and say "oh he placed higher so he must be better" you also have to look at the bracket and
Snute had good results when Nani was in his prime and he still delivers today while Nani struggels with NA dias last time i checked his streams and fucks Destiny's ex.
I think it would be understandable to put Nani over Snute but it shouldn't be a shocker to rate Snute higher than Nani.
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People saying that Jinro is too low...I am surprised he is even on the list to be honest with you.
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Jinro should be number 2 with Naniwa at number 1..
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