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The Greatest Foreigners of All Time Part 1 - Page 5

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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
December 24 2015 20:38 GMT
#81
Idk Top5 will be a tossup i think--My predictions for top 10 are possibly:

1. NaNiwa
2. Stephano
3. HuK
4. Snute
5. Scarlett
6. Sen
7. Nerchio
8. VortiX
9. MaNa
10. TLO
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
December 24 2015 20:39 GMT
#82
On December 25 2015 05:38 vult wrote:
Idk Top5 will be a tossup i think--My predictions for top 10 are possibly:

1. NaNiwa
2. Stephano
3. HuK
4. Snute
5. Scarlett
6. Sen
7. Nerchio
8. VortiX
9. MaNa
10. TLO

Flip Stephano and Nani and maybe flip Mana and Vortix and this is basically exactly my prediction.
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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-24 20:48:58
December 24 2015 20:47 GMT
#83
Just chiming in on other peoples sentiments that Jinro should be higher. Double Ro4 in the GSL was an extremely huge accomplishment that deserves more recognition. Those were Ro64 tournaments as well in Korea making it all the more impressive he made it that deep.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
December 24 2015 20:49 GMT
#84
Here's hoping for some Sen in the upper ranks!
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-24 20:54:44
December 24 2015 20:52 GMT
#85
On December 25 2015 05:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2015 05:38 vult wrote:
Idk Top5 will be a tossup i think--My predictions for top 10 are possibly:

1. NaNiwa
2. Stephano
3. HuK
4. Snute
5. Scarlett
6. Sen
7. Nerchio
8. VortiX
9. MaNa
10. TLO

Flip Stephano and Nani and maybe flip Mana and Vortix and this is basically exactly my prediction.


My only reason for having Naniwa over Stephano is his success in Korea compared to Stephano and his extreme work ethic during his prime.

VortiX and MaNa came down to their strength at their primes. While MaNa may have more long term achievement and recent results, VortiX was so scary when he was playing and unfortunately fell off the map and went to hero brawling.

On December 25 2015 05:47 Tachion wrote:
Just chiming in on other peoples sentiments that Jinro should be higher. Double Ro4 in the GSL was an extremely huge accomplishment that deserves more recognition. Those were Ro64 tournaments as well in Korea making it all the more impressive he made it that deep.


Agreed. I think if he were #10 and TLO was in his spot it would be a sound list.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
December 24 2015 20:58 GMT
#86
On December 25 2015 05:37 Muffloe wrote:
Saying that clearly Stephano > Naniwa is like saying that clearly neo > f0rest. Some things aren't black and white, these are cases of personal pref imo

Stephano won way more, had impact on the metagame that even impacted koreans, and some foreign patchzergs before their "rise" were trying to mimicate Stephano (but doing it worse despite doing it one year later Stephano).
WriterMaru
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
December 24 2015 21:02 GMT
#87
On December 25 2015 01:31 Scorch wrote:
I disagree with Jinro being so low. If we skip ahead to the #1 position, there are really only two candidates for me: Stephano and Jinro. Stephano had a long era of foreign domination, lots of tournament wins and could consistently go toe to toe with Koreans. Jinro, at his peak, had real impact in the most prestigious tournament in the motherland, which is a feat noone else ever came close to repeating. How one compares the value of these achievements is subjective, and I, too, would favor Stephano, but #12 is certainly too low for Jinro.



The fact is that Jinros domination came at a time when Koreans were still fresh in the water like us - the level of play back then was so low and everyone was on a similar playing field from it being such a new game. The korean mindset, practice schedule and downright genius hadn't been given enough to time to come to fruition.

In eras such as stephanos, Koreans had a much longer period of time to seperate themselves from the rest of the pack with everything i mentioned - this is why its that much more impressive for a foreigner to be able to go toe-to-toe with them so long after the games release - it proved that either they had an immense natural talent or they had applied themselves to the game just as hard as the koreans do.
Useless wet fish.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8986 Posts
December 24 2015 21:09 GMT
#88
I would have to go with:

Stephano
Naniwa
TLO
HuK
Nerchio
Sen
MaximusBlack
Idra
Winter

^_^
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
December 24 2015 21:10 GMT
#89
On December 25 2015 05:58 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2015 05:37 Muffloe wrote:
Saying that clearly Stephano > Naniwa is like saying that clearly neo > f0rest. Some things aren't black and white, these are cases of personal pref imo

Stephano won way more, had impact on the metagame that even impacted koreans, and some foreign patchzergs before their "rise" were trying to mimicate Stephano (but doing it worse despite doing it one year later Stephano).

Yeah, I can list reasons why my player is good aswell. Eerily similar to f0rest neo aye, kinda why I brought that up for comparison. At the end of the day Naniwa will be the better for alot of people, and probably even more for Stephano, but saying that one would clearly be better is where I start questioning it
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
December 24 2015 21:19 GMT
#90
On December 25 2015 06:10 Muffloe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2015 05:58 Poopi wrote:
On December 25 2015 05:37 Muffloe wrote:
Saying that clearly Stephano > Naniwa is like saying that clearly neo > f0rest. Some things aren't black and white, these are cases of personal pref imo

Stephano won way more, had impact on the metagame that even impacted koreans, and some foreign patchzergs before their "rise" were trying to mimicate Stephano (but doing it worse despite doing it one year later Stephano).

Yeah, I can list reasons why my player is good aswell. Eerily similar to f0rest neo aye, kinda why I brought that up for comparison. At the end of the day Naniwa will be the better for alot of people, and probably even more for Stephano, but saying that one would clearly be better is where I start questioning it

I don't know who the huck are f0rest and neo though, but Stephano is not really in the same category as NaNiwa to be honest ^^'.
Like I understood why people were torn up between Mvp and Life but for foreigners there is no doubt possible.
WriterMaru
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
December 24 2015 21:27 GMT
#91
Snute should be nr 1 on this list, then naniwa and then stephano. Stephano and naniwa competed with koreans when the game was yet to be figured out. Snute sat down with solid ass foreigner mechanics and beat the shit out of top kespa players in a fully figured out HotS.
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-24 21:30:10
December 24 2015 21:29 GMT
#92
accidentally quoted myself.
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
December 24 2015 21:30 GMT
#93
On December 25 2015 06:19 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2015 06:10 Muffloe wrote:
On December 25 2015 05:58 Poopi wrote:
On December 25 2015 05:37 Muffloe wrote:
Saying that clearly Stephano > Naniwa is like saying that clearly neo > f0rest. Some things aren't black and white, these are cases of personal pref imo

Stephano won way more, had impact on the metagame that even impacted koreans, and some foreign patchzergs before their "rise" were trying to mimicate Stephano (but doing it worse despite doing it one year later Stephano).

Yeah, I can list reasons why my player is good aswell. Eerily similar to f0rest neo aye, kinda why I brought that up for comparison. At the end of the day Naniwa will be the better for alot of people, and probably even more for Stephano, but saying that one would clearly be better is where I start questioning it

I don't know who the huck are f0rest and neo though, but Stephano is not really in the same category as NaNiwa to be honest ^^'.
Like I understood why people were torn up between Mvp and Life but for foreigners there is no doubt possible.

Well, we can continue this with the actual top 5 thread, and see if Stu thought that Stephano was in his own tier Until then, Happy Holidays
kuan888
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada305 Posts
December 24 2015 21:31 GMT
#94
it stop at 11 for me ?!?
What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. -Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche ||| Acer.Scarlett <3
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 24 2015 21:32 GMT
#95
On December 25 2015 04:51 HuK wrote:
If I don't get top 3 I'm going to be pissed.


dat top 3 control

derrrrr.

Kind of confused why Scarlett isn't higher up on a lot of people's lists.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
December 24 2015 21:46 GMT
#96
On December 25 2015 01:29 ster wrote:
it's nice to see all these names that I almost had forgotten again. I miss the good old WoL days

I'm afraid that IdrA will end up ranked higher than both Jinro and ThorZaIN which I can't really agree with.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
December 24 2015 21:48 GMT
#97
On December 25 2015 06:32 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2015 04:51 HuK wrote:
If I don't get top 3 I'm going to be pissed.


dat top 3 control

derrrrr.

Kind of confused why Scarlett isn't higher up on a lot of people's lists.


Mostly because she never won a premier tournament.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-24 22:41:38
December 24 2015 21:52 GMT
#98
On December 25 2015 05:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2015 05:38 vult wrote:
Idk Top5 will be a tossup i think--My predictions for top 10 are possibly:

1. NaNiwa
2. Stephano
3. HuK
4. Snute
5. Scarlett
6. Sen
7. Nerchio
8. VortiX
9. MaNa
10. TLO

Flip Stephano and Nani and maybe flip Mana and Vortix and this is basically exactly my prediction.

I don't think TLO should be on the list at all.

NaNiwa, Stephano,
HuK, Scarlett,
Nerchio, MaNa
Sen, Snute - these 7 should make the list.

Then White-Ra, sadly IdrA. I wonder the order.

Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
December 24 2015 22:04 GMT
#99
Article will probably have Stephano first because historically the TL writers have preferred him to Naniwa.

However, if they want to be consistent with their GOAT article released recently, they should preference Nani over Stephano; all the consistency arguments that applied to Mvp apply moreso to Nani than to Stephano.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 24 2015 22:05 GMT
#100
On December 25 2015 06:31 kuan888 wrote:
it stop at 11 for me ?!?

Yes, it's being released in 3 parts. #10-6 is next.
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