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The Greatest Foreigners of All Time Part 1 - Page 3

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EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
December 24 2015 18:33 GMT
#41
Great list so far, looking forward to the rest of it.
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ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-24 18:33:55
December 24 2015 18:33 GMT
#42
Thorzaaain! <3 you Thorzain. Your win against Polt in Dreamhack and against Naniwa in TSL4 are two of my top 5 memories in Starcraft.

I freaked out SO MUCH watching those live!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 24 2015 18:35 GMT
#43
obviously Artur is number 1, this is just a prelude to a 5000 word piece about him
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-24 18:37:48
December 24 2015 18:35 GMT
#44
Yay, it's starting again.

Top 3 to me is almost certainly Stephano then Naniwa then Snute.

I can see why Jinro is so low in the rankings; while his results are extremely impressive, there are only three of them.

Also Scarlett will end up something like 7th, which will result in even more complaints than PartinG not making the list.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
December 24 2015 18:37 GMT
#45
LucifroN is the second most talented foreigner I would say but he left early and didn't have that much results so I doubt he will be on the list unfortunately.

I don't even think there will be terrans in the top 10?
Scarlett probably 4 or 3 and Snute as 3 or 4 (most likely Snute 3rd), Huk at 7?
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
December 24 2015 18:38 GMT
#46
On December 25 2015 03:37 Poopi wrote:
LucifroN is the second most talented foreigner I would say but he left early and didn't have that much results so I doubt he will be on the list unfortunately.

I don't even think there will be terrans in the top 10?
Scarlett probably 4 or 3 and Snute as 3 or 4 (most likely Snute 3rd), Huk at 7?


Yeah, LucifroN is 16th.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
December 24 2015 18:40 GMT
#47
I look forward to where qxc ranks in.
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RewardedFool
Profile Joined July 2015
17 Posts
December 24 2015 18:45 GMT
#48
1. naniwa or Stephano

2. -

3. Snute or Scarlett

Stephano has the edge on results, but seeing how Zerg was back then and how abusive he was always makes me feel a bit uneasy saying he was the best ever. nani has comparable (arguably better) results against Koreans and did it at a time when Protoss wasn't doing very well.
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa980 Posts
December 24 2015 18:48 GMT
#49
What about Idra? Man this guy...where is he, by the way? Good Ol` Times...
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
December 24 2015 18:51 GMT
#50
On December 25 2015 03:10 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Oh wow I would have expected Jinro top 5 or something! To me lists like this are about what you did in your era against your peers. Every sport evolves and the level always gets higher, it is not because people are innately more talented or working harder in later eras just because they ended with a higher skillcap, it is the evolution of the game, practice methods, your peers, etc. Props for another awesome article series though, no complaints here just opinions.

Generally I agree but imo the kespa switch has made the korean scene far more competitive because of their rigorous practice regiment.
If a player would make double ro4 today it would be undoubtely more impressive then jinros runs.
Still I think jinro should be higher.
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
December 24 2015 18:54 GMT
#51
I am very disappointed to see Jinro so low. While I do think his peak was pretty shortlived, he accomplished something pretty incredible. Even Naniwa's Ro8's seem more impressive than some 1st place finishes. Stephano obviously was the best, beating top-tier Koreans right and left at foreigner events. But there's something to be said about top 8 finishes in a Korean tournament.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
December 24 2015 18:59 GMT
#52
Scarlett having never won a Premier tournament will probably keep her out of the top 3-5
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
December 24 2015 19:01 GMT
#53
interested to see where Lucifron will be placed. He's easily top 4 in my eyes he just never made it to the peak.
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
December 24 2015 19:10 GMT
#54
1.Naniwa
2.Stephano
3.HuK
4.Scarlett
5.Snute
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
December 24 2015 19:12 GMT
#55
Stephano, Naniwa and Huk are going to end up the top 3.

Next 3 are probably some combination of Snute, Scarlett and MaNa. MaNa is actually the odd wildcard I look forward to, as he's had top 3 finishes in Premier events across 5 years.

Snute is also an interesting case because at points his ZvP has approached not just "best foreigner of all-time" but possibly "best of all-time" at points. It's just too bad that he ran into two top 5 TvZers (at the time) at IEM twice. Otherwise he might have had 1-2 IEM titles to his name.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
December 24 2015 19:14 GMT
#56
On December 25 2015 04:01 atrox_ wrote:
interested to see where Lucifron will be placed. He's easily top 4 in my eyes he just never made it to the peak.


The fact that Bunny was compared to him means that he was 16th.
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
December 24 2015 19:20 GMT
#57
You guys forgot Thorzain's greatest achievement: getting it on with flo
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
December 24 2015 19:23 GMT
#58
Top 5,
Snute, Jinro, Huk, Naniwa, Stephano,
I am Godzilla You are Japan
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 24 2015 19:36 GMT
#59
I'm here to be mad! Or do I need to wait for more of the list?
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
December 24 2015 19:41 GMT
#60
On December 25 2015 04:36 Shellshock wrote:
I'm here to be mad! Or do I need to wait for more of the list?

in b4 taeja rank 1
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