EPTEdit : Like Day 1 Stephano is #1 and Drunk/Hangover/Day2 Stephano is #2
The Greatest Foreigners of All Time Part 1 - Page 2
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Philozovic
France1676 Posts
Edit : Like Day 1 Stephano is #1 and Drunk/Hangover/Day2 Stephano is #2 | ||
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SlammerIV
United States526 Posts
I think it is a hard call between the two, I always feel that Scarlett had the highest peak of any foreign player, Snute was and still is quite good, but Scarlett showed complete domination of even high level Korean players. It still makes me sad to think what her results would have been with just a bit more luck, with a 14 pool instead of hatch first it is likely she would have won WCS NA 2013 over polt, similarly her losses to bomber wcs finals 2013, sOs at redbull, and Trap at MLG were heartbreakingly close. With just a few more wins Scarlett could possibly have been considered the best foreigner of all time, certainly overtaking Naniwa.......  | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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Promised_pain
Finland57 Posts
2. Stephano 3. Naniwa My top 3 guess | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Stephano/Nani/HuK/Snute/Scarlett Sen/Mana/Nerchio/VortiX/IdrA. Won't be surprised to see likes of Jim in top-10 though, but eh. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15919 Posts
On December 25 2015 02:23 Promised_pain wrote: 1. Avilo 2. Stephano 3. Naniwa My top 3 guess Are you serious? Of course it's: 1. Avilo 2. Avilo 3. Avilo | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On December 25 2015 02:22 SlammerIV wrote: I think it is a hard call between the two, I always feel that Scarlett had the highest peak of any foreign player, Snute was and still is quite good, but Scarlett showed complete domination of even high level Korean players. It still makes me sad to think what her results would have been with just a bit more luck, with a 14 pool instead of hatch first it is likely she would have won WCS NA 2013 over polt, similarly her losses to bomber wcs finals 2013, sOs at redbull, and Trap at MLG were heartbreakingly close. With just a few more wins Scarlett could possibly have been considered the best foreigner of all time, certainly overtaking Naniwa....... I'm the biggest Scarlett fan, but Snute just has better overall results. Scarlett has a bad habit of coming so close to winning and then finding some way to not. Like you said, if maybe 5 games in her career had gone the other way she'd be right up there but as it is there's no way you can put her over Snute. Maybe if WCS NA 2012 had counted as a Premier (like EU did) it'd be a more significant result too. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On December 25 2015 02:31 Charoisaur wrote: Are you serious? Of course it's: 1. Avilo 2. Avilo 3. Avilo avilo is first and no one can deny that, so of course it won't appear in that ranking the first will always be second to the great avilo | ||
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Kaizor
Singapore909 Posts
He won the 2012 WCS Sweden Nationals, and that was back when Sweden was considered one of the strongest nations outside of korea with players like Thorzain, Naniwa, Sortof, Sase competing. It was so competitive, Naniwa wasn't even in the top 3. And my predictions for top 5 1. Stephano. No doubt he is the best performing foreigner in SC2 history so far. 2. Snute 3. Naniwa 4. Scarlett 5. Vortix | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16056 Posts
On December 25 2015 01:46 Poopi wrote: Okay so I guess the obvious #1 is Stephano and the obvious #2 is NaNiwa, I don't know who would be 3rd. If Scarlett is any worse than 3rd this list is obviously biased. She has the results and she has them against the top level players. | ||
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7798 Posts
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b0rt_
Norway931 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
There's really only 4 foreigners that have had careers where they actually did well against Korean competition and those were Scarlett, Snute, Naniwa, and Stephano. Probably in reverse order. | ||
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7798 Posts
#1 Stephano #2 NaNiwa #3 HuK #4 IdrA #5 Scarlett #6 Sen #7 Snute 7-10 I dunno. I'm thinking VortiX, MaNa, Nerchio and shit I dunno. I don't think ANY of those 3 should be above Jinro though. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16680 Posts
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7798 Posts
On December 25 2015 03:17 JimmyJRaynor wrote: did HuK play in more seasons of GSL Code S than any other non-Korean? Yes | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On December 25 2015 03:16 RPR_Tempest wrote: So my predictions #1 Stephano #2 NaNiwa #3 HuK #4 IdrA #5 Scarlett #6 Sen #7 Snute 7-10 I dunno. I'm thinking VortiX, MaNa, Nerchio and shit I dunno. I don't think ANY of those 3 should be above Jinro though. I have the same list as you but with Snute higher, I'd put him as #3. Otherwise, exact same. I'm still frustrated VortiX stopped SC2 when he was possibly the best foreigner, right after he qualified for IEM without losing a map including wins against koreans. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16680 Posts
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
On December 25 2015 02:23 lichter wrote: jinro's gsl ro4 was probably the highest peak skill of any foreigner relative to his time/competition ever, sad it didn't last longer Double ro4! Down the road that seems so much more impressive to me now than it did at the time. Great start to a good showpiece. | ||
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