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The Greatest Foreigners of All Time Part 1 - Page 7

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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 25 2015 01:03 GMT
#121
On December 25 2015 07:04 Yonnua wrote:
Article will probably have Stephano first because historically the TL writers have preferred him to Naniwa.

However, if they want to be consistent with their GOAT article released recently, they should preference Nani over Stephano; all the consistency arguments that applied to Mvp apply moreso to Nani than to Stephano.


It's a moot point now - the GOAT is outdated already. Life has cemented himself as #1 for now, having made another Blizzcon finals since the list came out.
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
December 25 2015 01:04 GMT
#122
Im hoping for some sweet liquid bias so people get really upset :D
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 25 2015 01:14 GMT
#123
On December 25 2015 10:04 Phredxor wrote:
Im hoping for some sweet liquid bias so people get really upset :D

I think the Bunny and Jinro so low is a smokescreen to pretend like liquid bias is gone, but then they are gonna drop Snute #1 on us
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Baggins
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada86 Posts
December 25 2015 01:16 GMT
#124
Just based of results it has to be Nani/Stephano in first/second. Than I honestly believe it would be Huk as third just based off of premier wins and gsl. Snute could also be third but I think anything other than those four for the top four would be weird. Love Scarlett/Mana/Duran Bros/Nerchio but the results to those four just are not there.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44214 Posts
December 25 2015 01:26 GMT
#125
I think having Snute as third after the two obvious choices makes sense.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
December 25 2015 01:31 GMT
#126
On December 25 2015 10:26 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I think having Snute as third after the two obvious choices makes sense.

It's damn hard to argue with Huk's trophy case, though.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Ve5pa
Profile Joined December 2014
United Kingdom252 Posts
December 25 2015 01:32 GMT
#127
A really nice read, congrats to the author, and thank you. Merry Christmas xD
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
December 25 2015 02:15 GMT
#128
On December 25 2015 06:32 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2015 04:51 HuK wrote:
If I don't get top 3 I'm going to be pissed.


dat top 3 control

derrrrr.

Kind of confused why Scarlett isn't higher up on a lot of people's lists.

Aww, you stole my joke!

Are we doing a list of best control after this?
Huk for top 3!
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
December 25 2015 02:50 GMT
#129
On December 25 2015 06:32 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2015 04:51 HuK wrote:
If I don't get top 3 I'm going to be pissed.


dat top 3 control

derrrrr.

Kind of confused why Scarlett isn't higher up on a lot of people's lists.


she doesn't have the results. the highest you can put her is 5, behind stephano, nani, huk, and snute. there's no argument to put her above those players.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
December 25 2015 02:57 GMT
#130
So the 10 should be:

Idra, Huk, Naniwa, Stephano, Scarlett, Snute for sure... Who else is there. Kiwikaki, QXC, Sen, Kas, White-ra, Hasu, Vortex, Lucifron, Ret, TLO, Mana, Major.

Id imagine that everyone from the top 10 should come from this list.
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 25 2015 02:59 GMT
#131
On December 25 2015 10:14 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2015 10:04 Phredxor wrote:
Im hoping for some sweet liquid bias so people get really upset :D

I think the Bunny and Jinro so low is a smokescreen to pretend like liquid bias is gone, but then they are gonna drop Snute #1 on us


The justification for Jinro being low (weaker competition) could also be used to rank Snute really high. (beating KesPA players in multiple tournaments)
Befree
Profile Joined April 2010
695 Posts
December 25 2015 03:43 GMT
#132
I guess I'm just echoing what others are saying, but the Jinro one is a little bit surprising. That had to be far and away the biggest achievement of a foreigner in SC2. And it wasn't just that he did it, but how he did. He was playing a pretty unique tank style if I remember correctly and had some wonderful games.

I guess we all have our own criteria. But I just find someone winning foreigner tournaments extremely less meaningful than the Korean tournaments.
CptMarvel
Profile Joined May 2014
France236 Posts
December 25 2015 04:20 GMT
#133
two first places have to b stephano and naniwa
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44214 Posts
December 25 2015 04:26 GMT
#134
On December 25 2015 11:57 FiWiFaKi wrote:
So the 10 should be:

Idra, Huk, Naniwa, Stephano, Scarlett, Snute for sure... Who else is there. Kiwikaki, QXC, Sen, Kas, White-ra, Hasu, Vortex, Lucifron, Ret, TLO, Mana, Major.

Id imagine that everyone from the top 10 should come from this list.


I'd imagine you're crazy.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
December 25 2015 05:22 GMT
#135
White-Ra won an IPL yo, over Idra too. He dope.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
December 25 2015 05:31 GMT
#136
On December 25 2015 14:22 Heyoka wrote:
White-Ra won an IPL yo, over Idra too. He dope.


Special Tactics > All

Plus he's everywhere.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States873 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-25 06:21:29
December 25 2015 05:50 GMT
#137
HayprO #1, almost knocked out Nestea and Mvp in the same tournament when they were both doing their godmode thing!

But really, I think it's Stephano/NaNiwa top 2 and Scarlett/Snute right after. Maybe HuK slips into the top 5 because he stuck around in Code S for a long time?

I know Scarlett doesn't have a bunch of titles to her name, but I remember there were a few months where she was a serious contender against anyone in the world. I can only think of a handful of foreigners that ever felt quite as dangerous.

P.S. Remember when she beat DongRaeGu in MLG... as protoss?!
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
Spleydi
Profile Joined February 2014
Switzerland20 Posts
December 25 2015 06:27 GMT
#138
Naniwa got into the IEM finals in a time where he had to beat players like San and Hyun to do that while Snute got top 8 in a time where he had to beat players like Classic and Rain to do that.
You can't just look at the result and say "oh he placed higher so he must be better" you also have to look at the bracket and

Snute had good results when Nani was in his prime and he still delivers today while Nani struggels with NA dias last time i checked his streams and fucks Destiny's ex.

I think it would be understandable to put Nani over Snute but it shouldn't be a shocker to rate Snute higher than Nani.
shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1104 Posts
December 25 2015 06:28 GMT
#139
People saying that Jinro is too low...I am surprised he is even on the list to be honest with you.
Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
December 25 2015 07:02 GMT
#140
Jinro should be number 2 with Naniwa at number 1..
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