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The Greatest Foreigners of All Time Part 1 - Page 8

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Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
December 25 2015 07:06 GMT
#141
Im surprised no one have mentioned Has
Have a nice day ;)
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 25 2015 07:09 GMT
#142
On December 25 2015 14:50 Kitai wrote:
HayprO #1, almost knocked out Nestea and Mvp in the same tournament when they were both doing their godmode thing!

But really, I think it's Stephano/NaNiwa top 2 and Scarlett/Snute right after. Maybe HuK slips into the top 5 because he stuck around in Code S for a long time?

I know Scarlett doesn't have a bunch of titles to her name, but I remember there were a few months where she was a serious contender against anyone in the world. I can only think of a handful of foreigners that ever felt quite as dangerous.

P.S. Remember when she beat DongRaeGu in MLG... as protoss?!


Huk at his peak was better than Scarlett at hers, arguably better than Snute at his (Huk was more dominant, Snute had harder competition) and he deserves 3rd.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
December 25 2015 07:29 GMT
#143
On December 25 2015 16:06 Dumbledore wrote:
Im surprised no one have mentioned Has

Has hasn't actually made a deep run in an important tournament, so it would be extremely unlikely at best.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-25 07:44:41
December 25 2015 07:41 GMT
#144
hmm, I feel a lot more out of my element in arguing the foreigner rankings. Bunny still feels a bit low to me.

Going to lose it if Naniwa somehow takes #1 over Stephano though. To me Stephano is an even more obvious #1 than Mvp was for the Koreans (Life was gaining on him).

I hope Sen gets the appreciation he deserves and cracks the top 5 too...but then again...Scarlett and Snute were pretty damn good and you can't not have Huk in there as well...god foreigner rankings are hard..
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
sc2chronic
Profile Joined May 2012
United States777 Posts
December 25 2015 08:57 GMT
#145
Text by stuchiu


remaining foreigners includes:

haypro
sheth
mana
ret
tlo
huk
snute

guarantee it
terrible, terrible, damage
kottbullar
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia490 Posts
December 25 2015 08:59 GMT
#146
Doesn't carry the same amount of hype as the GOAT list since #1 is pretty clear. I guess #2-4 rankings would be interesting to see though.

To all the Jinro fans out here, as much as I love the guy his period of dominance was very very short in comparison to others. Likewise, he had very little impact on the meta (Puma was the much more prominent 1-1-1 user of that era).
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
December 25 2015 09:48 GMT
#147
If Stephano went to Korea for only one GSL season in his first year (until summer 2012). He would be the undisputed foreigner. He just didnt care about longrun tournaments. His second year was a big joke compared to his first year, su much the worse he went to korea at 2nd year.
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
December 25 2015 10:19 GMT
#148
On December 25 2015 10:14 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2015 10:04 Phredxor wrote:
Im hoping for some sweet liquid bias so people get really upset :D

I think the Bunny and Jinro so low is a smokescreen to pretend like liquid bias is gone, but then they are gonna drop Snute #1 on us


Here's hoping.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-25 10:44:45
December 25 2015 10:29 GMT
#149
So I'm going to take a few few guesses:

Stephano will be number one

Naniwa, Snute and HuK will probably be in 2-4, with the order being debatable; I can see points for each being number 2, but I'd prefer Nani.

Nerchio, MaNa and Sen will be on there, as well as probably Scarlett and Vortix. Some people will complain, that the latter 2 are above ThorZaIN, while never having won a premier, when ThorZaIN won 2. I'd personally possibly disagree with that, but I can see, where it is coming from.

I do not know, who is number 10 though? LucifroN? Can't really justify him as nr.1 terran. Polt or viOLet? No matter what americans claim, they are still koreans.Idra? Won two premiers as well, but the finals were against Kiwikaki/elfi, while ThorZeIN had to take down Polt and Naniwa in bo5+ (and FD, MC and others earlier in the bracket). My best bet would be on someone chinese out of the 100k-club (Jim, Macsed or Xigua).

Honorable mentions go out to the other 2 chinese players mentioned, Idra, LucifroN, HasuObs, Kas, Ret, Happy, White-Ra and TLO.

Edit: In the heat of thinking, I forgot to say: Thanks stuchiu for doing this, it is always a pleasure to read your work.
A_needle_jog
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
Korea (South)699 Posts
December 25 2015 10:42 GMT
#150
looking forward to the next part. So far I think I agree !
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Neazbo
Profile Joined May 2013
United Kingdom698 Posts
December 25 2015 11:55 GMT
#151
1. Stephano
2. NaNiwa
3. Snute
4. HuK
5. Nerchio
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
December 25 2015 13:10 GMT
#152
i don't think you can put scarlett above huk and snute, and i truly think that the third place is gonna rustle a lot of jimmies (snute/huk?)
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A_needle_jog
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
Korea (South)699 Posts
December 25 2015 13:14 GMT
#153
Since this is about greatest foreigner and not best foreigner I doubt naniwa will be top3. Naniwa was good no doubt, but his attitude towards other human beings and the game was very questionable.

I think top 3 should be :

1) Scarlett
2) Snute
3) Stephano
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Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-25 14:20:55
December 25 2015 13:48 GMT
#154
Jinro should be way way higher, it's the only time with Nani first Ro8 when it seemed that a foreigner could actually win the whole thing

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Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
December 25 2015 14:07 GMT
#155
Dimaga should be in the top 10...
monchi | IdrA | Flash
Gullis
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden740 Posts
December 25 2015 14:12 GMT
#156
ah Thorzains thor rush <3 That must have been the shortest time between a build seeing the light of a tournament and blizzard nerfing the shit out of it
I would rather eat than see my children starve.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3764 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-25 18:33:57
December 25 2015 18:32 GMT
#157
I will go with:

0. Jinro - seriously. GSL Ro4 twice. It's the closest to Grrr.... we had in SC2.
1. Stephano - hard to argue. 4 premiers (though ESWC included only out of form MKP and MC and WCS was strictly EU only so 2 premiers with significant Korean presence), decent showing in Proleague, he actually carried International team against Korea in GSL WC. (Wiki)2012 GSL World Championship.
2. I'm torn a bit but I will go with NaNiwa. He was solid, won two premiers (but one was koreanless) - MLG Global beating Mvp 2-1 and Nestea 2-1 (semifinal final). These were offline games. He made numerous deep runs and actually was relevant after Korea started to travel - unlike HuK. Plus two Ro8 in GSL which was nice.
3. HuK! While his initial championship was in NA without any koreans, his Dreamhack ended with koreans on 2-4 positions (famous - top4 training in Korea). He shortly won HSC3 - the last non-premier one. Orlando title rather imporessive. Solid results in MLG early 2012. Plus Ro8 in GSL. Carried the torch of best foreigner between Jinro and Stephano.
4. IdrA - I feel he will land around here but I will always remember him because of this. EG lost any credibility in my eyes when they rehired him as HotS player.
6. Nerchio - Solid as rock but never the strongest. Also for years he is proplayer only part time which is very impressive. Recently jumped over MaNa in SC2 earnings ranking edging him out by ~250$
7. MaNa - MaNa was able at times to show fantastic play. He - however - almost always loses to Nerchio.
8. Scarlett - At times she was strongest foreigner aronud. Period. While she never won premier, she was strongest at the time that it wasn't really that relevant to distinguish foreigners.
9. Snute - Last homestory Cup won by not TaeJa Korean. Snute was remained very solid and dangerous for long period of time but I feel and when prepared Scarlett was simply better.
9. Sen - When he was relevant, he was strong but finished top 4 at best. Then he declined and won when nobody else was able to. However his TWOP run - while impressive - wasn't jaw dropping.
10. White-Ra - Special tactics > all. But seriously - he declined more or less around the same time as NesTea: when the game started to be really demanding mechanically and was unable to keep up. NesTea remained relevant longer because he was stronger. His IPL2 was fairly good showing. I will remember him mostly for challenging MC in Dreamhack Invitational.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
December 25 2015 20:39 GMT
#158
why would anybody in their right mind put Nerchio above Snute?

I am so confused by the opinion of some people here
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 25 2015 20:43 GMT
#159
On December 26 2015 05:39 ROOTFayth wrote:
why would anybody in their right mind put Nerchio above Snute?

I am so confused by the opinion of some people here

because of the drone drill vs YongHwa
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
December 25 2015 20:45 GMT
#160
On December 26 2015 05:43 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2015 05:39 ROOTFayth wrote:
why would anybody in their right mind put Nerchio above Snute?

I am so confused by the opinion of some people here

because of the drone drill vs YongHwa


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