EPTThe Greatest Foreigners of All Time Part 1 - Page 8
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Dumbledore
Sweden725 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On December 25 2015 14:50 Kitai wrote: HayprO #1, almost knocked out Nestea and Mvp in the same tournament when they were both doing their godmode thing! But really, I think it's Stephano/NaNiwa top 2 and Scarlett/Snute right after. Maybe HuK slips into the top 5 because he stuck around in Code S for a long time? I know Scarlett doesn't have a bunch of titles to her name, but I remember there were a few months where she was a serious contender against anyone in the world. I can only think of a handful of foreigners that ever felt quite as dangerous. P.S. Remember when she beat DongRaeGu in MLG... as protoss?! Huk at his peak was better than Scarlett at hers, arguably better than Snute at his (Huk was more dominant, Snute had harder competition) and he deserves 3rd. | ||
The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
On December 25 2015 16:06 Dumbledore wrote: Im surprised no one have mentioned Has Has hasn't actually made a deep run in an important tournament, so it would be extremely unlikely at best. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Going to lose it if Naniwa somehow takes #1 over Stephano though. To me Stephano is an even more obvious #1 than Mvp was for the Koreans (Life was gaining on him). I hope Sen gets the appreciation he deserves and cracks the top 5 too...but then again...Scarlett and Snute were pretty damn good and you can't not have Huk in there as well...god foreigner rankings are hard.. | ||
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sc2chronic
United States777 Posts
Text by stuchiu remaining foreigners includes: haypro sheth mana ret tlo huk snute guarantee it | ||
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kottbullar
Australia490 Posts
To all the Jinro fans out here, as much as I love the guy his period of dominance was very very short in comparison to others. Likewise, he had very little impact on the meta (Puma was the much more prominent 1-1-1 user of that era). | ||
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Dingodile
4139 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On December 25 2015 10:14 Shellshock wrote: I think the Bunny and Jinro so low is a smokescreen to pretend like liquid bias is gone, but then they are gonna drop Snute #1 on us Here's hoping. | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
Stephano will be number one Naniwa, Snute and HuK will probably be in 2-4, with the order being debatable; I can see points for each being number 2, but I'd prefer Nani. Nerchio, MaNa and Sen will be on there, as well as probably Scarlett and Vortix. Some people will complain, that the latter 2 are above ThorZaIN, while never having won a premier, when ThorZaIN won 2. I'd personally possibly disagree with that, but I can see, where it is coming from. I do not know, who is number 10 though? LucifroN? Can't really justify him as nr.1 terran. Polt or viOLet? No matter what americans claim, they are still koreans.Idra? Won two premiers as well, but the finals were against Kiwikaki/elfi, while ThorZeIN had to take down Polt and Naniwa in bo5+ (and FD, MC and others earlier in the bracket). My best bet would be on someone chinese out of the 100k-club (Jim, Macsed or Xigua). Honorable mentions go out to the other 2 chinese players mentioned, Idra, LucifroN, HasuObs, Kas, Ret, Happy, White-Ra and TLO. Edit: In the heat of thinking, I forgot to say: Thanks stuchiu for doing this, it is always a pleasure to read your work. | ||
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
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Neazbo
United Kingdom698 Posts
2. NaNiwa 3. Snute 4. HuK 5. Nerchio | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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A_needle_jog
Korea (South)699 Posts
I think top 3 should be : 1) Scarlett 2) Snute 3) Stephano | ||
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Philozovic
France1677 Posts
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Big-t
Austria1351 Posts
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Gullis
Sweden740 Posts
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nimdil
Poland3769 Posts
0. Jinro - seriously. GSL Ro4 twice. It's the closest to Grrr.... we had in SC2. 1. Stephano - hard to argue. 4 premiers (though ESWC included only out of form MKP and MC and WCS was strictly EU only so 2 premiers with significant Korean presence), decent showing in Proleague, he actually carried International team against Korea in GSL WC.  2012 GSL World Championship.2. I'm torn a bit but I will go with NaNiwa. He was solid, won two premiers (but one was koreanless) - MLG Global beating Mvp 2-1 and Nestea 2-1 (semifinal final). These were offline games. He made numerous deep runs and actually was relevant after Korea started to travel - unlike HuK. Plus two Ro8 in GSL which was nice. 3. HuK! While his initial championship was in NA without any koreans, his Dreamhack ended with koreans on 2-4 positions (famous - top4 training in Korea). He shortly won HSC3 - the last non-premier one. Orlando title rather imporessive. Solid results in MLG early 2012. Plus Ro8 in GSL. Carried the torch of best foreigner between Jinro and Stephano. 4. IdrA - I feel he will land around here but I will always remember him because of this. EG lost any credibility in my eyes when they rehired him as HotS player. 6. Nerchio - Solid as rock but never the strongest. Also for years he is proplayer only part time which is very impressive. Recently jumped over MaNa in SC2 earnings ranking edging him out by ~250$ 7. MaNa - MaNa was able at times to show fantastic play. He - however - almost always loses to Nerchio. 8. Scarlett - At times she was strongest foreigner aronud. Period. While she never won premier, she was strongest at the time that it wasn't really that relevant to distinguish foreigners. 9. Snute - Last homestory Cup won by not 9. Sen - When he was relevant, he was strong but finished top 4 at best. Then he declined and won when nobody else was able to. However his TWOP run - while impressive - wasn't jaw dropping. 10. White-Ra - Special tactics > all. But seriously - he declined more or less around the same time as NesTea: when the game started to be really demanding mechanically and was unable to keep up. NesTea remained relevant longer because he was stronger. His IPL2 was fairly good showing. I will remember him mostly for challenging MC in Dreamhack Invitational. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
I am so confused by the opinion of some people here | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On December 26 2015 05:39 ROOTFayth wrote: why would anybody in their right mind put Nerchio above Snute? I am so confused by the opinion of some people here because of the drone drill vs YongHwa | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24604 Posts
because when you look deep into his hazel eyes you just can't say no to him | ||
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