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TLADT24920 Posts
On July 22 2015 10:55 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 08:57 BigFan wrote:Guys, while I think it's great that you are trying to reach an understanding, please, let's try to stay civil. Nothing wrong with arguing so long as neither individual is hurling any kind of insult at the other i think we are a bit past that given the above statements. It's more of a preventive measure; to prevent it from accelerating since I'd rather not see some random poster who strolls by (lol) report them for player insult etc... Also, I've watched both players over the years and know that they are both skilled at starcraft so I figure they can learn from each other if they get along.
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Bisutopia19139 Posts
5 years we have struggled since SC2 release. Brood war staff and brood war casters work many hours behind the scenes and live for all of you. There is no prize money at the end for what we do. Yet we pour hours upon hours for half a decade into maintaining a community. We also spent these past 4-6 months planning out something amazing. We will sacrifice weekends for hosting this tournament. Weekdays covering and hyping the ones to follow. Yet you guys complain about something small like this? One player will make you so bitter while no one considers the effort non players must put forward to even make this happen. What if we gave up after all these years? We didn't! And now it's your turn to buck up and play the best damn game out there. It's not about money, it's about playing your best game. Please sign up, practice, and enjoy this because that is the greatest gift you can give us after all these years.
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On December 09 2013 03:43 sas.Sziky wrote: yes eon can play 10 hours/ day not everyone. and what u think why cant see this format another tours?(1000years) only this and defiler(GJ) and defiler not problem?good joke all time problem its a long(very bad) I gave up, I can not give yours Estonian good start this tour how much wo heres up to now? idk but here +1 take w.o ace im cant play this is gl.
Guys, don't be a bunch of Estonians.
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Man up and let him play. If he lags like crazy, ban him (like you would anyone else). It's that simple. When any other foreigner was in Korea they were allowed to participate in foreign tournaments. I don't know much about Scan but from what I've gathered from reading here, I would consider Scan as much of a foreigner as a Korean can get... something along the lines of a SC1 version of Polt.
The majority of people who seem to actually care about this are the ones who think they can win some $ and see him as a threat. It's only $50 people... this is just a fun event and should be treated as such. Let the guy play and have fun like everyone else. If he takes the $50... who really cares..? If $50 is going to make or brake you, you probably should be focused on getting a job rather than Starcraft.
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On July 22 2015 13:39 G5 wrote: Man up and let him play. If he lags like crazy, ban him (like you would anyone else). It's that simple. When any other foreigner was in Korea they were allowed to participate in foreign tournaments. I don't know much about Scan but from what I've gathered from reading here, I would consider Scan as much of a foreigner as a Korean can get... something along the lines of a SC1 version of Polt.
The majority of people who seem to actually care about this are the ones who think they can win some $ and see him as a threat. It's only $50 people... this is just a fun event and should be treated as such. Let the guy play and have fun like everyone else. If he takes the $50... who really cares..? If $50 is going to make or brake you, you probably should be focused on getting a job rather than Starcraft. G5 hype return?
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Russian Federation382 Posts
trash talks kimchi vs scan vs sziky vs Estonia
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On July 22 2015 14:26 idegelchik wrote:+ Show Spoiler +trash talks kimchi vs scan vs sziky vs Estonia
Even if you get warned, it will have been worth it.
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I suggest you award the winner with 2nd place and see what Scan has to say about it. Because that's how foreigners feel when going into a tournament against Scan - they can't beat him realistically. Basically what Wallce said is what it's about. As regards Scan's remarks, they're cute and all (especially comparing his classes with Sziky busting his ass off as a woodcutter), but what's with this then? http://maxgosu.blogspot.de/2011/05/interwiev-with-lastscan-by-iccupcom.html Of course he's korean when it comes to playing Starcraft and of course it pisses many people off, seeing as how he collects ez money from all foreigner tournaments. Like this one: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Defiler_Tour_70 Yeah that's real exciting to watch, 2-0 everyone. Sometimes he would lose a game or two choosing non-main race. Which is considered bm by the tournament admin because Scan usually rapes everyone regardless of that.
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Yoda considers off racing as BM?
Again, it shouldn't be about what the viewers want. They don't play. Even if it was, what makes you think that a somewhat one sided TvZ is "more" boring than a series of ZvZ starting with the Semis? Because that's what you usally get if you have Bo1 until Ro8 and with the current scene - see most of the tournaments so far.
Pissing me off would be a class of players who can only be lured into playing due to money, see G5's post. I'd love more people with the attitude of a Lancerx, who play w/e the circumstances are. It's not like half of the players complaining in here wouldn't sign up either way, it's very few who just don't want to post: "I got old and moved on". That happens, it's not bad at all, but save yourself some dignity and say it. Making it sound as if it's either Scan's, Brain's or the organizer's fault you're not that motivated anymore is just ridiculous and at some level insulting the work these put into this project. I wonder if 2pac et al. already regret trying to come up with that series. Stop being a negative nancy and start having fun. I mean seriously, this thread became a joke, we even get Eywa giving lectures of organizing. This. has. to. stop.
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On July 22 2015 12:34 BisuDagger wrote: 5 years we have struggled since SC2 release. Brood war staff and brood war casters work many hours behind the scenes and live for all of you. There is no prize money at the end for what we do. Yet we pour hours upon hours for half a decade into maintaining a community. We also spent these past 4-6 months planning out something amazing. We will sacrifice weekends for hosting this tournament. Weekdays covering and hyping the ones to follow. Yet you guys complain about something small like this? One player will make you so bitter while no one considers the effort non players must put forward to even make this happen. What if we gave up after all these years? We didn't! And now it's your turn to buck up and play the best damn game out there. It's not about money, it's about playing your best game. Please sign up, practice, and enjoy this because that is the greatest gift you can give us after all these years.
Actually this is a pretty good point.
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Hype!
Joining for #2, can't play this weekend :X
iNs Fighting! (monkey)
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what's all this fuss about? Let scan play ffs. People are just scared of him winning the entire tournament. I'm also playing so yeh
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I get what you're saying GeckoXp. Is it Scan's fault? Of course not. He should just say "you're all easy mode but I don't care, let me win anyway", instead of pretending to be a legit foreigner. While owning Savior in 2v2 tournaments and being a sparring partner for active progamers to help them out with SSL.
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On July 22 2015 17:58 GeckoXp wrote: Yoda considers off racing as BM?
Again, it shouldn't be about what the viewers want. They don't play. Even if it was, what makes you think that a somewhat one sided TvZ is "more" boring than a series of ZvZ starting with the Semis? Because that's what you usally get if you have Bo1 until Ro8 and with the current scene - see most of the tournaments so far.
Pissing me off would be a class of players who can only be lured into playing due to money, see G5's post. I'd love more people with the attitude of a Lancerx, who play w/e the circumstances are. It's not like half of the players complaining in here wouldn't sign up either way, it's very few who just don't want to post: "I got old and moved on". That happens, it's not bad at all, but save yourself some dignity and say it. Making it sound as if it's either Scan's, Brain's or the organizer's fault you're not that motivated anymore is just ridiculous and at some level insulting the work these put into this project. I wonder if 2pac et al. already regret trying to come up with that series. Stop being a negative nancy and start having fun. I mean seriously, this thread became a joke, we even get Eywa giving lectures of organizing. This. has. to. stop. Start a poll and let the community vote, it will become clear in one day what the viewers want. If this conflict continues it will push away both players and viewers.
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Bisutopia19139 Posts
On July 22 2015 21:23 _Animus_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 17:58 GeckoXp wrote: Yoda considers off racing as BM?
Again, it shouldn't be about what the viewers want. They don't play. Even if it was, what makes you think that a somewhat one sided TvZ is "more" boring than a series of ZvZ starting with the Semis? Because that's what you usally get if you have Bo1 until Ro8 and with the current scene - see most of the tournaments so far.
Pissing me off would be a class of players who can only be lured into playing due to money, see G5's post. I'd love more people with the attitude of a Lancerx, who play w/e the circumstances are. It's not like half of the players complaining in here wouldn't sign up either way, it's very few who just don't want to post: "I got old and moved on". That happens, it's not bad at all, but save yourself some dignity and say it. Making it sound as if it's either Scan's, Brain's or the organizer's fault you're not that motivated anymore is just ridiculous and at some level insulting the work these put into this project. I wonder if 2pac et al. already regret trying to come up with that series. Stop being a negative nancy and start having fun. I mean seriously, this thread became a joke, we even get Eywa giving lectures of organizing. This. has. to. stop. Start a poll and let the community vote, it will become clear in one day what the viewers want. If this conflict continues it will push away both players and viewers. The bottom line is we discussed this as tournament organizers and made a decision. If this turns out to be a bad decision then is something we will have re-evaluate in the future. If we take a poll for this, then I guess we should have a poll for maps in the tournament to make that more fair or a poll for the tournament format or maybe a poll for what day the tournaments should be played on.
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There is a point to that.
Personally dislike his participation because of the lags. You're looking at zvt (since there are no good terran and protoss now), where zerg can't micro. Add maps like pa, mp - you choose a winner before the tournament started.
His daily amount of games is 30+, which he streams like everyday for the last year. You sure this amateur tournament? 30+ daily seems like full-time work, with overtime hours added. Let other koreans play, and some random kr that makes 40+ games a day will simply rape him. What you're doing is discouraging ppl from participating - none will match that no-life amount of games.
This will be a tournament for 3rd place - who want's to play for 3rd place? Sziky will probably take 2nd, so the rest plays for 3rd spot.
This looks like FIFA commitee, all top places fixed already, you sure you need a tournament for that? xd
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On July 22 2015 22:11 13Julia wrote: There is a point to that.
Personally dislike his participation because of the lags. You're looking at zvt (since there are no good terran and protoss now), where zerg can't micro. Add maps like pa, mp - you choose a winner before the tournament started.
His daily amount of games is 30+, which he streams like everyday for the last year. You sure this amateur tournament? 30+ daily seems like full-time work, with overtime hours added. Let other koreans play, and some random kr that makes 40+ games a day will simply rape him. What you're doing is discouraging ppl from participating - none will match that no-life amount of games.
This will be a tournament for 3rd place - who want's to play for 3rd place? Sziky will probably take 2nd, so the rest plays for 3rd spot.
This looks like FIFA commitee, all top places fixed already, you sure you need a tournament for that? xd
I don't play every day. I'm very surprised that most of the people are just saying "oh, Scan just plays 24/7" or "30 ++ games daily."
Prove to people with an evidence where I play 30 ++ games per day instead of shouting out random stuff to make it into real and pushing me towards to accept and say, "Yes, I play 30 ++ games every day." I'm almost done getting school, I managed my time well to practice also. Stop looking for a way or ways to bullshit something about me and saying "Scan no life user" or "Scan 30 ++ games every day."
People who've been following and talking to me nicely on my stream channel or through Skype chat, they know it well. You guys can search up my DoB. You can make a prediction that I'm in school in the U.S., and I've also said nicely that I'm taking summer classes also while I'm in Korea earlier.
By the way, random Korean that makes 40 ++ games a day will not able to rape me that simply as you think. Why? Everyone has different talents. I'm pretty sure you are smart enough to understand my meaning without any explanation.
I still get to see how some people are still posting false story to become true. Hmm. Not sure what to say about this problem.
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Oh lol, never seen him be so manner like in this thread, guess people change for 50$.
Your stream was 24/7 for the past year, and the amount of daily games was in the description of each broadcast. That's good evidence.
By the way, random Korean that makes 40 ++ games a day will not able to rape me that simply as you think.
Touched a nerve there.
+ Show Spoiler +You can't win vs active koreans, so you try to bash people who don't play 24/7 like you.
I still get to see how some people are still posting false story to become true. Hmm. Not sure what to say about this problem.
Nice try. Maybe start with yourself there.
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On July 22 2015 17:58 GeckoXp wrote: Yoda considers off racing as BM?
Again, it shouldn't be about what the viewers want. They don't play. Even if it was, what makes you think that a somewhat one sided TvZ is "more" boring than a series of ZvZ starting with the Semis? Because that's what you usally get if you have Bo1 until Ro8 and with the current scene - see most of the tournaments so far.
Pissing me off would be a class of players who can only be lured into playing due to money, see G5's post. I'd love more people with the attitude of a Lancerx, who play w/e the circumstances are. It's not like half of the players complaining in here wouldn't sign up either way, it's very few who just don't want to post: "I got old and moved on". That happens, it's not bad at all, but save yourself some dignity and say it. Making it sound as if it's either Scan's, Brain's or the organizer's fault you're not that motivated anymore is just ridiculous and at some level insulting the work these put into this project. I wonder if 2pac et al. already regret trying to come up with that series. Stop being a negative nancy and start having fun. I mean seriously, this thread became a joke, we even get Eywa giving lectures of organizing. This. has. to. stop. Sorry for trying to be a well mannered contributor to the discussion ~ my posts were less about organization and more about people criticizing the players for what is a natural reaction.
+ Show Spoiler +Try to not insult the players you're going to need to run a successful tournament
Good luck with the event guys.
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On July 22 2015 23:22 13Julia wrote:Oh lol, never seen him be so manner like in this thread, guess people change for 50$. Your stream was 24/7 for the past year, and the amount of daily games was in the description of each broadcast. That's good evidence. Show nested quote + By the way, random Korean that makes 40 ++ games a day will not able to rape me that simply as you think. Touched a nerve there. + Show Spoiler +You can't win vs active koreans, so you try to bash people who don't play 24/7 like you. Show nested quote + I still get to see how some people are still posting false story to become true. Hmm. Not sure what to say about this problem. Nice try. Maybe start with yourself there.
I'll just start ignoring these kinds of people. Pointless to argue.
Believe what you guys would like to and have fun with it. You are just simply troll user to me after your reply. No evidence still shown, just typing all day.
You are just keyboard-warrior. Good luck in living with those prejudice in the future.
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