EPTOn April 19 2015 21:26 lichter wrote:
i don't like polt myself but i'm surprised how many people don't like him
i don't like polt myself but i'm surprised how many people don't like him
remember the days when people would post "who?" in reply
Greatest Players of All Time: Part 2 - Page 19
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opterown
Australia54748 Posts
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shadymmj
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as for "the best a man can get" it is no doubt innovation. that didn't last for very long but he wiped the floor with everyone. for "mr. consistency" of course it's mvp. | ||
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Ctesias
4595 Posts
On April 19 2015 21:26 lichter wrote: i don't like polt myself but i'm surprised how many people don't like him Remember when he said Jinro reached the ro8 (or was it ro16?) of the GSL twice by luck? I'm guessing that's the reason. Personally, I think he's awesome. | ||
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Mikku
Czech Republic58 Posts
like WTF? ... but then I. have realized what Stuchiu is going to do with this list. Five places for Life & co. and on t he top MVP declared as 1st Sc2 Bonjwa. Years after his era, there is almost no1 who tries to argue about MVP taking the 1st spot. t simply shows how big and dominant he was. And this is the definition of Bonjwa. In BW it was up to Korean crowd to crown their Boxer, Flash ... . In Sc2 I can see the possibility, that community can accept this declaration made on the central pointt website of Starcraft 2 scene. | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8300 Posts
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messioso
Denmark635 Posts
Genius I understand entirely, besides the 2010 win and a single runner up in GSL. But let's spare a thought for $O$. | ||
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Mallidon
Scotland557 Posts
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Rocket-Bear
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On April 19 2015 23:01 Mallidon wrote: If MC doesn't make the top 5 then I call shenanigans and Pinnacle should void the result! :D He will for sure. MC Taeja Life Mvp are all going top 5. Last spot is between Parting and Polt atm, we'll see who gets it. | ||
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Elentos
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On April 19 2015 22:59 messioso wrote: Seems quite crazy yet logical at the same time that two Blizzcon/World champions won't be in the top 15 of all time. Genius I understand entirely, besides the 2010 win and a single runner up in GSL. But let's spare a thought for $O$. Well, good thing for $O$ is, he still has a shot to move up in the rankings as SC2 goes on. Some of the others don't. | ||
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kaykoose
United States2302 Posts
Also, the whole preparation tournaments > weekend tournaments is weird. Both are valuable and should be treated as such. BUT, if we're trying to find players who are straight out more talented, why wouldn't a weekend tournament be the best way to determine a player's raw skill? | ||
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ejozl
Denmark3306 Posts
Hey! He basically invented double forge vs Terran. I quite liked HongUn, remember when he would go Carriers, just to please his fans?  Also, the whole preparation tournaments > weekend tournaments is weird. Both are valuable and should be treated as such. BUT, if we're trying to find players who are straight out more talented, why wouldn't a weekend tournament be the best way to determine a player's raw skill? This is probably also why Nestea is so high on the list. He's a preparation monster, but anytime he would travel to events out of Korea he would just suck. If you cannot play both styles well, you don't deserve to be one of the greatest players of all time. If a player like Rain that have no clue how to play a bo7, you should not be one of the greatest players of all time. | ||
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TheAnarchy
Chile1105 Posts
On April 19 2015 12:23 Alucen-Will- wrote: No one reasonable argues about Flash not being the best of all time Flash played at the time Bw was in decadence at 2008. I played bw since 99 and bw peak was surely at the time of Nada or Savior there was much more competition in servers and professional leagues. NA servers where dead at time. Ive seen all the players named bonjwa and flash is probably out of my top 3 (Nada, savior and bisu). | ||
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TheAnarchy
Chile1105 Posts
So his only results that counts are 2 gsl finals and his homestory cupcup the rest is pretty bad. | ||
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Hier
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The_Red_Viper
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On April 19 2015 23:37 ejozl wrote: Hey! He basically invented double forge vs Terran. I quite liked HongUn, remember when he would go Carriers, just to please his fans? This is probably also why Nestea is so high on the list. He's a preparation monster, but anytime he would travel to events out of Korea he would just suck. If you cannot play both styles well, you don't deserve to be one of the greatest players of all time. If a player like Rain that have no clue how to play a bo7, you should not be one of the greatest players of all time. I agree completely, which is the main argument for me to disagree with Taeja being in the top 5. | ||
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Psychonian
United States2322 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On April 19 2015 23:44 TheAnarchy wrote: Flash played at the time Bw was in decadence at 2008. I played bw since 99 and bw peak was surely at the time of Nada or Savior there was much more competition in servers and professional leagues. NA servers where dead at time. Ive seen all the players named bonjwa and flash is probably out of my top 3 (Nada, savior and bisu). Bisu above Flash all time? TT | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8301 Posts
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Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
On April 19 2015 21:58 The_Red_Viper wrote: It's not about Kespa, it's about preparation style tournaments > weekend tournaments Add: korean ones > foreign ones A real GOAT has to do well in both, preferably also in the korean edition. Polt won that one super tournament in 2011, his results after that in korea were just ok and decent. Sure he also won 3 wcs seasons, but let's be real, none of these tournaments is even remotely comparable with a gsl win or even semi final tbh. I don't wanna say that Polt doesn't deserve to be on a top 15 list, he probably does. But top 5? I'd say 3 WCS and being relevant for 5 years is *a lot* more impressive than 1 GSL (or whatever big name Korean tournament) and never really achieving anything again. This list isn't just about achievements, it's about legacy. It's about their lasting impact on the scene. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
The only players in contention for GOAT in BW are Boxer, Nada and Flash  Boxer dominated the beginning of BW so unbelievably hard. Nada won 6 titles across three distinctly different phases of BW's life (from like 2003?-2007) and then Flash rocked the end of BWs life span from 2008 onwards. Jaedong/Oov/Savior probably fill out the top six. | ||
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