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Greatest Players of All Time: Part 2 - Page 17

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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12521 Posts
April 19 2015 04:09 GMT
#321
On April 19 2015 13:01 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 12:54 stuchiu wrote:
On April 19 2015 12:50 elwoodng wrote:
I miss Nestea 😢 what is he doing now?



So much many titles sleeping in the back of that car

Although, NesTea might not be sleeping and instead is crafting a universe with his mind. Mvp still has that mouth open.

oh man the memories
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
User15937
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
68 Posts
April 19 2015 04:21 GMT
#322
5. TaeJa
4. PartinG
3. Life
2. MC
1. Mvp
IMLyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada714 Posts
April 19 2015 04:46 GMT
#323
Well written, although I believe the sheer impact of NesTea as a player during the early stages of Starcraft should've granted him top 5. He was an icon of the game, in a time when there when the zerg race was the epitome of struggle.
I'ma show you how great I am ~ Muhammed Ali
nozemsagogo
Profile Joined December 2014
8 Posts
April 19 2015 06:58 GMT
#324
I still think you can't not put boxer in here.
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
April 19 2015 07:05 GMT
#325
On April 19 2015 13:21 User15937 wrote:
5. TaeJa
4. PartinG
3. Life
2. MC
1. Mvp


Spot on but Ill rank Life 2nd
1. MVP
2. Life
3. MC
4. Taeja
5. Parting
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 19 2015 07:09 GMT
#326
On April 19 2015 10:44 Jermius wrote:
To make Bomber's exclusion even more confusing, he essentially has an even record (24-25) against the top 5 (assuming Taeja, MC, Polt, Life, couldn't find match stats for MVP). Taeja also has like a 65% win rate against the top 15 for people trying to discredit a player's success for playing foreign tournaments.

Statistical analysis hype! great comment
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
April 19 2015 07:31 GMT
#327
On April 19 2015 13:46 IMLyte wrote:
Well written, although I believe the sheer impact of NesTea as a player during the early stages of Starcraft should've granted him top 5. He was an icon of the game, in a time when there when the zerg race was the epitome of struggle.

Always thought Nestea was a bit lucky with how many GSLs there was in a year back then. His dominance lasted less than a year and still got 3 GSL titles. If he had been as dominant now for the same amount of time he would have gotten 1-2.

Here's a game from Nestea in November 2011 (aka the year he was at his best). Can start watching from around 10min, been a somewhat normal game before that.

Enjoy seeing the worst throw in like SC2 history. As even I could have beaten HuK from the position Nestea was in.
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain881 Posts
April 19 2015 07:32 GMT
#328
On April 19 2015 01:46 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 01:45 Hier wrote:
On April 19 2015 01:36 -HuShang- wrote:
Next 5:

5) Parting
4) Taeja
3) Life
2) MC
1) MVP

Well, the order may be different, but these 5 will definitely be on the list next week. There's simply nobody else.

If this is the top 5 then Polt is getting massively disrespected. if Polt is number 5 than Parting is being massively disrespected

I agree that it feels both should be there, but refuse to say that it is a "massive disrespect". I am sure Stichu respects both players and their results.
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
delhiwarrior
Profile Joined April 2015
2 Posts
April 19 2015 07:37 GMT
#329
inb4 taeja rank 1 cos it's teamliquid writing this article... anyone remember the TL awards for 2014?
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 19 2015 07:47 GMT
#330
On April 19 2015 15:58 nozemsagogo wrote:
I still think you can't not put boxer in here.


Personally I found his SC2 results fairly lackluster.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-19 07:52:15
April 19 2015 07:49 GMT
#331
On April 19 2015 16:31 Rocket-Bear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 13:46 IMLyte wrote:
Well written, although I believe the sheer impact of NesTea as a player during the early stages of Starcraft should've granted him top 5. He was an icon of the game, in a time when there when the zerg race was the epitome of struggle.

Always thought Nestea was a bit lucky with how many GSLs there was in a year back then. His dominance lasted less than a year and still got 3 GSL titles. If he had been as dominant now for the same amount of time he would have gotten 1-2.

Here's a game from Nestea in November 2011 (aka the year he was at his best). Can start watching from around 10min, been a somewhat normal game before that.

Enjoy seeing the worst throw in like SC2 history. As even I could have beaten HuK from the position Nestea was in.
https://youtu.be/b_NzfHZBkwk?t=601


No, Nestea was firmly the best Zerg for almost exactly a year. This was nearly inarguable. I'd say from his first gsl title all the way until the game you just posted. So that ranges from October 2010 to November 2011. He also has a decent enough spread on his gsl wins that the amount of gsl opportunities back then is somewhat irrelevant. Not like Nestea completely vanished thereafter either, he was still more relevant than a lot of Zergs. It's just that you could actually argue DRG and Leenock were better after that point.

In fact, for early 2012 you could've still considered him the #2 Zerg considering Leenock fell off for a little while at that point and didn't really come roaring back until the summer of 2012.

Nestea was falling but he didn't really hit total rock bottom until he got destroyed by ByuN in his last code S ro8 appearance. He would then fall to code B, the amount of thrown games would skyrocket (the game you posted isn't even the worst). But then, there would be one last glimmer of hope as Nestea qualified for the final season of WoL code S and made his last good tournament run at Iron Squid II. After that he never looked anywhere close to coming back to form and essentially was a lingering shadow of his former self.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
JorSharky
Profile Joined June 2013
11 Posts
April 19 2015 07:54 GMT
#332
Actually I don't agree that much on putting NesTea in here .. he should be in the top 5 for sure .. First he won 3 GSLs when no other zerg was even near his form .. they all straggled against Terran! He was creative and he reformed the zerg race to what it became at the moment .. I do feel that this is way under-ranking the guy! Although I am Terran player you have to recognize greatness when u see it .. if NesTea doesn't belong in the top 5 .. I wonder who is?! I'll wait to see but i do think it's a very silly choice to not put him in the top 5 .. I'm really disappointed ..
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else."
fancyClown
Profile Joined April 2015
65 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-19 08:12:41
April 19 2015 08:01 GMT
#333
Here are the real Top15 based on the number of times the players made it to GSL Code S Ro8:

NesTea 7
PartinG 7
Mvp 6
MC 6
Innovation 6
Soulkey 6
MarineKing 5
Rain 5
HongUn 5
Symbol 5
Taeja 4
Maru 4
soO 4
MMA 4
NaDa 4
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-19 08:13:11
April 19 2015 08:11 GMT
#334
On April 19 2015 17:01 fancyClown wrote:
Here are the real Top15 based on the number of times the players made it to GSL Ro8:

NesTea 7
PartinG 7
Mvp 6
MC 6
Innovation 6
Soulkey 6
MarineKing 5
Rain 5
HongUn 5
Symbol 5
Taeja 4
Maru 4
soO 4
MMA 4
Nada 4


Wow, didn't realize Nestea had so many (though this is counting open seasons where most of the competition was awful).

Always thought he could've been a 4-5x champ if Mvp and Terran wasn't so good in 2010/2011.

==

Also, gogo Symbol! Get rekt patchzerg accusers.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
TurnipThrowingPeach
Profile Joined December 2011
United States151 Posts
April 19 2015 08:12 GMT
#335
The Nestea feels are real.

Very well written, though I do agree with other people saying he's worthy of top 5. In terms of impact and accomplishments, he's the most standout player when I think of Starcraft 2. His legacy will never be forgotten, and watching his reign made me exude emotions for the game that no other player could or probably ever can again. I don't know, it's strange to put into words. Another Nestea can't ever be repeated. That's what makes him the greatest.
That's what she said.
sfbaydave
Profile Joined May 2011
United States32 Posts
April 19 2015 08:20 GMT
#336
Honestly, this article lost credibility to me with Nestea this low.
He was the most dominant zerg and player for a solid 1 year stretch.
3 GSL titles, an undefeated GSL season, and had the 'Nestea' award obviously named after him.

Sure he fell off the map quickly, but so did MVP.
Its a shame Nestea doesnt get the respect he deserves.
He was one of the top 3 greatest Starcraft 2 players of all time.
SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
April 19 2015 09:08 GMT
#337
MVP has to be #1
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
April 19 2015 09:15 GMT
#338
On April 19 2015 18:08 SuperFanBoy wrote:
MVP has to be #1

he will
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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fancyClown
Profile Joined April 2015
65 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-19 09:48:11
April 19 2015 09:16 GMT
#339
I realized that the GSLs of 2011 and 2012 should get lower weight since there were more GSLs per year.
2011: 7 GSLs per year (multiply with 0.429)
2012: 5 GSLs per year (multiply with 0.6)
2013: 4 GSLs per year (multiply with 0.75)
the rest had 3 GSLs per year

Here are the adjusted Top15 based on the number of times the players made it to GSL Code S Ro8:

PartinG 5.70
Innovation 4.85
Soulkey 4.60
NesTea 4.31
MC 4.21
Rain 4.10
HongUn 3.86
soO 3.75
MarineKing 3.63
Maru 3.50
Symbol 3.45
Zest 3.00
Mvp 2.91
MMA 2.86
Taeja 2.70
KnowNothing
Profile Joined December 2010
69 Posts
April 19 2015 09:22 GMT
#340
Joke list no PartinG and Nestea in 7th!?
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