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ETisME
12686 Posts
On April 19 2015 13:01 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: So much many titles sleeping in the back of that car Although, NesTea might not be sleeping and instead is crafting a universe with his mind. Mvp still has that mouth open. oh man the memories | ||
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User15937
68 Posts
4. PartinG 3. Life 2. MC 1. Mvp | ||
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IMLyte
Canada714 Posts
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nozemsagogo
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covetousrat
2109 Posts
On April 19 2015 13:21 User15937 wrote: 5. TaeJa 4. PartinG 3. Life 2. MC 1. Mvp Spot on but Ill rank Life 2nd 1. MVP 2. Life 3. MC 4. Taeja 5. Parting | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On April 19 2015 10:44 Jermius wrote: To make Bomber's exclusion even more confusing, he essentially has an even record (24-25) against the top 5 (assuming Taeja, MC, Polt, Life, couldn't find match stats for MVP). Taeja also has like a 65% win rate against the top 15 for people trying to discredit a player's success for playing foreign tournaments. Statistical analysis hype! great comment  | ||
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Rocket-Bear
3070 Posts
On April 19 2015 13:46 IMLyte wrote: Well written, although I believe the sheer impact of NesTea as a player during the early stages of Starcraft should've granted him top 5. He was an icon of the game, in a time when there when the zerg race was the epitome of struggle. Always thought Nestea was a bit lucky with how many GSLs there was in a year back then. His dominance lasted less than a year and still got 3 GSL titles. If he had been as dominant now for the same amount of time he would have gotten 1-2. Here's a game from Nestea in November 2011 (aka the year he was at his best). Can start watching from around 10min, been a somewhat normal game before that. Enjoy seeing the worst throw in like SC2 history. As even I could have beaten HuK from the position Nestea was in. | ||
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Xamo
Spain884 Posts
On April 19 2015 01:46 Yorkie wrote: If this is the top 5 then Polt is getting massively disrespected. if Polt is number 5 than Parting is being massively disrespected I agree that it feels both should be there, but refuse to say that it is a "massive disrespect". I am sure Stichu respects both players and their results. | ||
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delhiwarrior
2 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On April 19 2015 15:58 nozemsagogo wrote: I still think you can't not put boxer in here. Personally I found his SC2 results fairly lackluster. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On April 19 2015 16:31 Rocket-Bear wrote: Always thought Nestea was a bit lucky with how many GSLs there was in a year back then. His dominance lasted less than a year and still got 3 GSL titles. If he had been as dominant now for the same amount of time he would have gotten 1-2. Here's a game from Nestea in November 2011 (aka the year he was at his best). Can start watching from around 10min, been a somewhat normal game before that. Enjoy seeing the worst throw in like SC2 history. As even I could have beaten HuK from the position Nestea was in. https://youtu.be/b_NzfHZBkwk?t=601 No, Nestea was firmly the best Zerg for almost exactly a year. This was nearly inarguable. I'd say from his first gsl title all the way until the game you just posted. So that ranges from October 2010 to November 2011. He also has a decent enough spread on his gsl wins that the amount of gsl opportunities back then is somewhat irrelevant. Not like Nestea completely vanished thereafter either, he was still more relevant than a lot of Zergs. It's just that you could actually argue DRG and Leenock were better after that point. In fact, for early 2012 you could've still considered him the #2 Zerg considering Leenock fell off for a little while at that point and didn't really come roaring back until the summer of 2012. Nestea was falling but he didn't really hit total rock bottom until he got destroyed by ByuN in his last code S ro8 appearance. He would then fall to code B, the amount of thrown games would skyrocket (the game you posted isn't even the worst). But then, there would be one last glimmer of hope as Nestea qualified for the final season of WoL code S and made his last good tournament run at Iron Squid II. After that he never looked anywhere close to coming back to form and essentially was a lingering shadow of his former self. | ||
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JorSharky
11 Posts
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fancyClown
65 Posts
NesTea 7 PartinG 7 Mvp 6 MC 6 Innovation 6 Soulkey 6 MarineKing 5 Rain 5 HongUn 5 Symbol 5 Taeja 4 Maru 4 soO 4 MMA 4 NaDa 4 | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On April 19 2015 17:01 fancyClown wrote: Here are the real Top15 based on the number of times the players made it to GSL Ro8: NesTea 7 PartinG 7 Mvp 6 MC 6 Innovation 6 Soulkey 6 MarineKing 5 Rain 5 HongUn 5 Symbol 5 Taeja 4 Maru 4 soO 4 MMA 4 Nada 4 Wow, didn't realize Nestea had so many (though this is counting open seasons where most of the competition was awful). Always thought he could've been a 4-5x champ if Mvp and Terran wasn't so good in 2010/2011.  == Also, gogo Symbol! Get rekt patchzerg accusers. | ||
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TurnipThrowingPeach
United States151 Posts
Very well written, though I do agree with other people saying he's worthy of top 5. In terms of impact and accomplishments, he's the most standout player when I think of Starcraft 2. His legacy will never be forgotten, and watching his reign made me exude emotions for the game that no other player could or probably ever can again. I don't know, it's strange to put into words. Another Nestea can't ever be repeated. That's what makes him the greatest. | ||
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sfbaydave
United States32 Posts
He was the most dominant zerg and player for a solid 1 year stretch. 3 GSL titles, an undefeated GSL season, and had the 'Nestea' award obviously named after him. Sure he fell off the map quickly, but so did MVP. Its a shame Nestea doesnt get the respect he deserves. He was one of the top 3 greatest Starcraft 2 players of all time. | ||
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SuperFanBoy
New Zealand1068 Posts
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On April 19 2015 18:08 SuperFanBoy wrote: MVP has to be #1 he will | ||
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fancyClown
65 Posts
2011: 7 GSLs per year (multiply with 0.429) 2012: 5 GSLs per year (multiply with 0.6) 2013: 4 GSLs per year (multiply with 0.75) the rest had 3 GSLs per year Here are the adjusted Top15 based on the number of times the players made it to GSL Code S Ro8: PartinG 5.70 Innovation 4.85 Soulkey 4.60 NesTea 4.31 MC 4.21 Rain 4.10 HongUn 3.86 soO 3.75 MarineKing 3.63 Maru 3.50 Symbol 3.45 Zest 3.00 Mvp 2.91 MMA 2.86 Taeja 2.70 | ||
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KnowNothing
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