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Sorry, that wasn't productive, mad at people who are not you.
two reasons 1: gut says people present are town for various reasons. I would bet good money that at least one of ceph/rayn are scum 2. it was a change of topic from the DP thinks Art is scum for something prome thinks is not alignment indicative. Amd I was/am bored with that topic.
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On February 04 2014 12:30 DarthPunk wrote: ##unvote
##vote:promethelax
No reason to refuse to answer questions and engage in a discourse if you are town. Further I wouldn't expect the town prome I've played in a tonne of games with to act that way.
oh good. Now it feels like one of my usual games. I do miss being a d1 suspect. Its been soooooo long.
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On February 04 2014 12:31 Promethelax wrote: Sorry, that wasn't productive, mad at people who are not you.
two reasons 1: gut says people present are town for various reasons. I would bet good money that at least one of ceph/rayn are scum 2. it was a change of topic from the DP thinks Art is scum for something prome thinks is not alignment indicative. Amd I was/am bored with that topic.
Well neither of those things were in the post you told me to read so....
What do you think of marv?
Feel free to ask me things too.
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Lel nevermind. I was reading only the middle post for some reason.
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Not Voting - raynpelikoneet, iamperfection, Promethelax, Cephiro, marvellosity, DarthPunk
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it was literally right there...
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oh, umm marv is fine in my books. It is a mentality thing but he isn't forcing himself to post like he was last invite game. In shadow there was a certain feel to all his posts that left me feeling a little slimy and it just isn't here at all.
Now you do Iamp
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On February 04 2014 12:26 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 12:16 WaveofShadow wrote: Ok caught up. I'm comfortable with my vote where it is despite the findings that Artanis specifically does this all the time as either alignment, on voice, at weddings and at barmitzvahs.
DP the salt overflowing from this thread has raised my blood pressure. I'd stick you with a solid townread but I worry simply because I figure you're smart enough to know that kind of reaction is what people expect from you. I also have a bunch of townreads already in this game and there's only room for so many (and I'm hesitant to dump scumreads simply on lurkers).
I want to talk to you but I think the current topics have been done to death a little.
What do you make of marv? That is the correct play. I am town though. About marv. He has been absolutely fucking useless. He bitched about me raging, talked about artanis not being scum or town and that is about it. He did make one post I liked though: Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 11:09 marvellosity wrote: The absolute best thing for mafia in this sort of game is to have townies riled up and wanting to take vengeful shots. Ironically.
Mafia have much less space to hide in if people are rational and aren't self-hammering just so they can shoot the person that can piss them off.
Anyone should be able to see that that is absolutely the best thing for mafia. Worst thing for mafia = everyone being rational so they can't take funky shots if they're lynched under the guise of emotion or having a laugh. Maybe Artanis is town and he's not going to bow to the will of the people, but if he's in danger of being lynched, it should be clear how and why his top suspect is, and we can go off that.
So if I assume you're town, DP, then whatever it takes for this not to happen is what you gotta do. Because I'm not having tits throw this game away because they're pissed off and they want to shoot people. This seemed like a genuine attempt to get the town on track. but still it is very easy to fake something like that as scum. What do you think? I'm already seeing differences in the 'take-charge-ness' between this game and the last, that post being an excellent example. This one as well struck me as well:
On February 04 2014 11:35 marvellosity wrote: By the way.
If I find 3 townies this cycle then town wins for sure. By my rough calculations. And if I find 2 then town is in a super strong spot, maybe even winning by force as well.
iamp is still looking sexy to me. So 1-2 more and we're in an awesome spot. Yeehaw!
Again, fakeable, but this post comes from an extremely townie mindset. On top of that, the last thing you want to be doing as scum is giving out 'confirmed-type' townreads. (Of course it's possible something like marv+iamp scumteam but not even bothering with that train of thought this early. Sticking with the good for now.)
There is plenty of stuff in his filter that irks me, however:
On February 04 2014 11:14 marvellosity wrote: Claiming mafia is stupid and is quite clearly a net benefit to mafia, because I'm sitting here answering this question, and if he's town then my time is better spent not sitting here answering this question (it is, in fact, better spent sleeping).
Sadly townies do stupid things in the name of 'hilarity', so you never really know. Probably best not to think about it too much. We'll see what Artanis does tomorrow. I don't like being told what to think, especially after last game, which leads me to the next point---- a lot of shutting down discussion as well:
On February 04 2014 11:14 marvellosity wrote: We're also not going to talk about how close posts were together and how mindmeldy that makes them. Jeez I would think from the last game the townies learned that shutting down discussion isn't necessarily a good way to go even if you think the discussion is useless/inane considering it might offer differing trains of thought left otherwise unconsidered. Maybe 'mind-melds' isn't a good example, but still. It's insanely early in an IML game. We're not under any time limits here so I would encourage any and all discussion.
Keeping an eye on him, cursory townread for now simply due to different 'feels' from last game but I don't put much past marv right now, and it's still early.
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On February 04 2014 12:31 Promethelax wrote: Sorry, that wasn't productive, mad at people who are not you.
two reasons 1: gut says people present are town for various reasons. I would bet good money that at least one of ceph/rayn are scum 2. it was a change of topic from the DP thinks Art is scum for something prome thinks is not alignment indicative. Amd I was/am bored with that topic. I like this.
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I should also mention the negative sections of my post are things town-marv is completely capable of doing and is also likely to do, though equally likely as scum. Non-indicative necessarily, I just don't like those posts.
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I think it was fucking weird that he called me scum in this game and then tried to compare this game to a town game of mine where I did the exact same thing. Like why would that be your comparison if you think I am scum? Another thing was that he said that I have an issue with emotions again comparing this game to the other town game of mine.
But like If he thought I was scum then why is he telling me to calm down like my emotion is genuine. If you think I am scum would you view my rage as genuine? I don't think so and it is fucking off.
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maybe im trying to figure out your alignment.
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at least you didnt pick up your ball and go home so maybe you are town
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Iamp: since you are here wanna join in the fun? Do WoS.
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On February 04 2014 12:49 Promethelax wrote: Iamp: since you are here wanna join in the fun? Do WoS. no. i dont like being told what to do. I do as i please.
but if you really do want to see stuff i had some inklings earlier on the subject im sure you can find. they arent strong though
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Oh yeah, come to think of it, you never answered me.
On February 04 2014 09:51 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 09:49 iamperfection wrote:On February 04 2014 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 04 2014 09:40 iamperfection wrote: do you find marv hard to read wave? Considering I 'caught' him very early in the game in Shadow (though I didn't believe myself at the time) I'd say probably not, though at that point I also had never played a game with scum-marv before and there was a lot of other shit going down in thread all game, and marv survived so obviously neither I nor anyone else can really take any credit at all. At the very least I'd feel more confident in my ability to catch him in future games (including this one). I'd probably find rayn my personal 'hardest to read' in this particular game. then i dont get why you would need to watch him like a "hawk". Unless you are just saying things for show. Iamp, you're talking a lot about shit you don't understand. Nobody paid much attention to marv at all in Shadow game including me and he got away all game not doing a hell of a lot. Had I or anyone else paid more attention to him (which was rather difficult given the other lynch candidates in thread and how marv played), he may very well have been caught and lynched. Is there a particular reason you're pushing this?
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you missed the thread a bit there. Which makes me feel better given how many times I've already almost posted in their game.
WoS: will you play along? You liked my thought that the posters so far felt townie. Which of the players who have posted feels the least townie?
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On February 04 2014 13:10 WaveofShadow wrote:Oh yeah, come to think of it, you never answered me. Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 09:51 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 04 2014 09:49 iamperfection wrote:On February 04 2014 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 04 2014 09:40 iamperfection wrote: do you find marv hard to read wave? Considering I 'caught' him very early in the game in Shadow (though I didn't believe myself at the time) I'd say probably not, though at that point I also had never played a game with scum-marv before and there was a lot of other shit going down in thread all game, and marv survived so obviously neither I nor anyone else can really take any credit at all. At the very least I'd feel more confident in my ability to catch him in future games (including this one). I'd probably find rayn my personal 'hardest to read' in this particular game. then i dont get why you would need to watch him like a "hawk". Unless you are just saying things for show. Iamp, you're talking a lot about shit you don't understand. Nobody paid much attention to marv at all in Shadow game including me and he got away all game not doing a hell of a lot. Had I or anyone else paid more attention to him (which was rather difficult given the other lynch candidates in thread and how marv played), he may very well have been caught and lynched. Is there a particular reason you're pushing this? because what you said makes no sense.
You say im going to totes be watching you marv so closely but then admit he isn't hard to read. Those two statements cant go together. Which would therefore imply that you dont really intend to watch him closely and are just using that language for show. therefore you would be scum.
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