EPTOn January 23 2014 14:02 Seeker wrote:
No. We're Korean. We have long hair that makes us look sexy as hell.
No. We're Korean. We have long hair that makes us look sexy as hell.
give me body pics pls
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Muffloe
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On January 23 2014 22:00 Nebuchad wrote: Well my experience as a reader is ruined by whine, so I get to complain about it. If a whiner's experience as a whiner is ruined by my whining about his whining, he can complain about it if he wants. I'm not sure he won't look dumb doing it, though. Well I guess my point is, be careful about turning your own complaints into whining aswell | ||
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Nebuchad
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On January 23 2014 22:07 Muffloe wrote: Well I guess my point is, be careful about turning your own complaints into whining aswell That's pretty much the same thing :p But I see your point anyway. | ||
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FFW_Rude
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plogamer
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Zealously, it appears you are focusing on the Terrans' biased complaining when it's prevalent amongst all the races. Yeah, you get less complaining from the group that is faring better; and more from the ones doing worse. But your blog post gives the impression that it's only the Terrans with bias - and I see all the Protoss congregate here. Hence, Sad Zealot Club 2.0. Here is a prime example of a Protoss showing much bias. You have the banhammer now, I forward this post to you. Shit post or not, your call.: On January 23 2014 22:05 -Celestial- wrote: Zerg is currently at a 7/11 64% rate of qualifying to Code S. Roughly on par with the 11/16 69% qualification rate for Protoss. And yet Terrans only complain about one of these. Bias much. On January 23 2014 22:10 Ghanburighan wrote: You're desperate, aren't you. TvZ is currently 10 v 11, so 48% with one game separating them. That's a bit different from the Furthermore, Supernova and Bbyong made it into Code S by beating zergs. While not a single terran who had to play against a P made it into Code S. While I don't think everything is alright in the TvZ MU after the WM nerf, this Code A does not show us that there's a problem. Which is followed by (notice that he cuts out the factual response in the quoted reply): On January 23 2014 22:23 -Celestial- wrote: Not really. I'm giving you the facts. The fact you're yelling about matchup percentages actually demonstrates you desparate you and your compatriots are. First you cry about Terran low representation because "whaaa all the Protoss are qualifying instead". Then its pointed out that Zerg are qualifying at roughly the same rate you change your tune. But go ahead and keep crying about it if you want. I won't be reading any more. Absolutely no reasoning with the balance whine on these forums. While others do chime in with reasonable responses such as: On January 23 2014 22:24 opterown wrote: lol Celestial you're being incredibly biased yourself. while i don't care for balance whine or whatever, the reason why terrans are whining is the low winrate in TvP, despite zergs also doing decently. it should be pretty damn easy to see why. Link to the post for your convenience. | ||
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aslejoh
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Darkhorse
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Even Flash and Life are going right for the crotch. And grats on becoming a banling Zealously. Sometimes there are unexpected good results to things, although I'll wait to see if I get banned before deciding how good it is. | ||
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If you're trying to say that being biased is the same thing as whining, then you're just as wrong as he is. I can go fetch some of ghanburighan's posts when he was a prime member of the antiwhine police during the beginning of HotS, and compare them to his posts today; you could clearly see a shift. Except Ghan doesn't go out of his way to make sure my TL experience is ruined. | ||
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Noobity
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On January 23 2014 16:43 aZealot wrote: I think that is a mis-perception. Albeit, one with harmful effects especially to those not acquainted with the community. A casual visitor to TL would get the impression that SC2 sucked, that everyone hated it, that Blizzard was shit and on and on and on. But in Strategy threads and in LR threads and in blogs you still get the sense of people who like SC2 and want to talk about it with like-minded people. Basically, a lot of us go about our business of enjoying our game and get on with it. I see the whiners representing a small part of the TL community, and the TL community itself representing a small part of the overall SC2 community (and it is a big one - a lot of people just play without having to lurk and/or post in forums). It's best not to take the bile from a small part of the TL community overly seriously. You might even want to feel sorry for them. Miserable morons, hating a game so much and yet being unable to leave it. Pathetic, don't you think? I don't think that is a mis-perception at all. If a casual observer would come to the forums and get the impression that SC2 sucked and Blizzard sucked then that's a pretty accurate perception. If the naysayers are a minority, they're an extremely vocal minority and it doesn't really matter how many people like something in a forum when 2/3 of posts are negative. A large part of the problem is that those bashing the game are so fantastically adamant that the game sucks and they're not culled. The mods are extremely lenient with a lot of stuff which is, in my opinion, the biggest problem. I don't know if I'd like the forums if they were harsher in moderation, but I think that the way they mod is why there is this specific problem right now. Understand too, that a lot of people who enjoy SC2 don't play it anymore. I don't see any reason why I'd go into the strategy section of the forums if I don't play SC2 right now. I enjoy the game, I enjoyed playing the game, but I simply burned myself out on playing it and now I'd rather watch games and read/talk about the aspects of the game that interest me. Reading a thread about a match and seeing "oh what, those banelings wouldn't have done nearly as much if the game was optimized like Brood War. What the fuck is blizzard doing? They're terrible at making and balancing games." and then that chucklehead's 5 buddies coming in and parroting his sentiments is pretty off-putting for a guy like me. The strategy section of the forums has nothing for me at this time, if that's where true fans are relegated to going to not be bombarded by the nonsensical hate then TL.net doesn't really have anything for a guy like me. | ||
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plogamer
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On January 23 2014 23:47 Nebuchad wrote: Everyone is biased plogamer, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove. Celestial is just showing poor argumentative skills. If you're trying to say that being biased is the same thing as whining, then you're just as wrong as he is. I can go fetch some of ghanburighan's posts when he was a prime member of the antiwhine police during the beginning of HotS, and compare them to his posts today; you could clearly see a shift. Except Ghan doesn't go out of his way to make sure my TL experience is ruined. That Zealously unfairly paints Terran concerns as whines. No doubt there are unreasonable concerns, which would fall under the category of "whine" I suppose. But to lambast anyone who raises a voice over oracles or warp tech? I didn't have to go digging (through a span of beginning of HotS to current, like you seem to suggest) for the posts I showed above. They were right there on today's Code A LR thread, within a couple of pages. When presented with numbers for why Terrans are complaining about Protoss over Zerg, Celestial closes his/her ears and leaves with insult for Ghan; going as far as removing valid content Ghan's post. That's not just argumentative skill at work here. I wanted to highlight that questionable, biased posts, come from everyone. As you say, everyone is biased. My concern is merely the portrayal of this biased whining and how it is being lapped up by the Protoss congregation here. PS. Calling it "poor argumentative skills" is rather apologetic. | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On January 23 2014 07:14 Plansix wrote: The term for them is BW hipster. Never watched BW and doesn't follow the scene, but will happy tell you how the game is superior to SC2. Hahaha, it never gets old hearing people talk about why BW is better than SC2, and clearly being clueless. My personal favourite: "BW didn't have death balls because you could only select 12 units at a time" (they always use past tense). As if the difference between 1a and 1a2a3a is that great. So stupid. -.- Also, there are viable strategies that revolve around keeping as many of your units as possible together, in a "death ball". I'm tired of these silly hipsters. | ||
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