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Well, that sucks that you've had enough. I know I certainly had made many of the posts that you probably were frustrated with. I guess people could expect me to change my behavior?
+ Show Spoiler +HELL NO!
I've been a cynical, pessimistic asshole ever since Slayers disbanded amid drama, and I'm likely to remain a cynical, pessimistic asshole until the end of my days as an SC2 fan. I do have to give a shoutout to the people on these forums who have put up with my bullshit for all this time though...god bless you
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But...
but....
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Zealousy pls round 1 is over it's too late to fix the curse you don't need to leaveeee
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On January 23 2014 07:22 Seeker wrote:No but you can call him Milkis.
seeker milkis waxangel you all look the same get a haircut or something nerds
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Fair enough, dude. You got to do what you got to do.
I think you could get by with just ignoring SC2 General, though. That is the real cesspit of TL. LR threads can be iffy, at times, but they have always had that danger and usually you can get by. Especially as there are a number of people in LR threads who are watching for the love of the game and the players, and because the whine is usually left behind with the next game.
Anyway, hope to see you back when you are ready.
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Have to agree that moderation is getting really relaxed nowadays, so much balance whining in LR threads, design threads etcetc
but I am learning to just ignore those posts, takes time to master this skill though
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Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
On January 23 2014 13:44 Gamegene wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 07:22 Seeker wrote:On January 23 2014 06:45 Dodgin wrote:
also, can I call you Seeker? No but you can call him Milkis. seeker milkis waxangel you all look the same get a haircut or something nerds
No. We're Korean. We have long hair that makes us look sexy as hell.
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Hope I still see you hanging out in the LR threads from time to time. Not that the balance whine can't be bad in those threads too, but at least if that's going on you can be, y'know, watching the game. Gotta have some non-toxic people hanging around, so the LR threads stay as fun as they can be!
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On January 23 2014 14:02 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 13:44 Gamegene wrote:On January 23 2014 07:22 Seeker wrote:On January 23 2014 06:45 Dodgin wrote:
also, can I call you Seeker? No but you can call him Milkis. seeker milkis waxangel you all look the same get a haircut or something nerds No. We're Korean. We have long hair that makes us look sexy as hell.
Clearly he's never been to the Nada's Body thread, which shows the world what a sexy Korean man ought to look like
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On January 23 2014 13:28 Bagration wrote:Well, that sucks that you've had enough. I know I certainly had made many of the posts that you probably were frustrated with. I guess people could expect me to change my behavior? + Show Spoiler +HELL NO!
I've been a cynical, pessimistic asshole ever since Slayers disbanded amid drama, and I'm likely to remain a cynical, pessimistic asshole until the end of my days as an SC2 fan. I do have to give a shoutout to the people on these forums who have put up with my bullshit for all this time though...god bless you
ROFL, thank you 
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Oh man.
It's like you took so many words right out of my mouth. I agree with almost everything you said.
I mean, yes, whining is to some extent unavoidable and sometimes necessary to make things change (I've made plenty of less than positive posts myself), but when negativity becomes the defining attitude in a place like this, it can sometimes be unbearable.
TL.net is supposed to be the hub of the Starcraft II community, and the prevalent attitude here is that Starcraft II and its scene sucks.
Try to wrap your head around that for a moment. I'm not saying that everyone who ever posts here has to preface every post with saying how awesome SC II is, but when so many people seem to actively dislike the game, it makes me wonder what the hell those people are still doing in the community. Why stay? If you don't like it, why not just move on? Why stick around and create a toxic atmosphere to suffocate those who actually, you know, enjoy Starcraft II (gasp)?
And sure, some will refer to all the negativity as "cynicism" or whatever makes it sound more cool, but to me a lot of it seems more like self-indulgent social self-pitying. Whining for the sake of whining, done as a group activity. I'm sure there are plenty of cool people here who complain about the game, the balance, the tournaments, and everything in between with the intention of actually improving on things, but everything has a limit. If talking about Starcraft II in Youtube comments and Twitch chats can be a more positive and enjoyable experience than doing it on TL.net, hasn't something gone wrong somewhere? Isn't this place supposed to be better than this? Aren't WE supposed to be better than this?
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I understand - it's basically similar to why I can't visit twitch chat. At least the passion isn't lost and articles are still on the horizon!
Would be nice if there was:
a) more moderation on TL (esp in LR threads)
b) or another place to keep the discussion fun (TL+?)
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Zealously, I'm feeling you. Still, don't retreat, if not for those of us who cherish your contribution to countless threads then for Life! He needs your support in all those Life-ignorant threads on TL! (I know this is cheap, but one gotta try)
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I get where you're coming from, shits been going on for over a year now.
But you dont beat whining by whining about it in a melodramatic blog.
Cya soon.
EDIT: Wow they gave him mod powers...
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I read your sad post and thought, "The internet has claimed another." To be really passionate about something is to fail to moderate the fervor in posting to defend it. Everyone's a Critic. It takes effort to rise above and find the good things in life. It takes effort to shut the ears and eyes to the bile-spewing types that would find fault if you gave them a wrinkled hundred-dollar bill.
I hope you take a short-term break and come back to see you in LR threads and tournament discussion in general.
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You were one of the main reasons why I haven't entirely left the LR threads yet. Thanks for having tried for so long. You are a awesome human being and I don't think people tell you that often enough.
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On January 23 2014 15:39 RaZorwire wrote:
TL.net is supposed to be the hub of the Starcraft II community, and the prevalent attitude here is that Starcraft II and its scene sucks.
I think that is a mis-perception. Albeit, one with harmful effects especially to those not acquainted with the community. A casual visitor to TL would get the impression that SC2 sucked, that everyone hated it, that Blizzard was shit and on and on and on. But in Strategy threads and in LR threads and in blogs you still get the sense of people who like SC2 and want to talk about it with like-minded people. Basically, a lot of us go about our business of enjoying our game and get on with it.
I see the whiners representing a small part of the TL community, and the TL community itself representing a small part of the overall SC2 community (and it is a big one - a lot of people just play without having to lurk and/or post in forums). It's best not to take the bile from a small part of the TL community overly seriously. You might even want to feel sorry for them. Miserable morons, hating a game so much and yet being unable to leave it. Pathetic, don't you think?
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tbh, to me, being unhappy with much whining and blaiming whiners for that sounds like hypocricy. Just try to remember how forums were clean and intelligent in bw era, and suddenly it became totally opposite in sc2 era. Do you really think people changed and became worse? Ofc not. There is no other thing to blame than the game itself (or its creators), now you could say, gtfo if you don't like it. We're happy without you bla bla bla. But people cant just quit easily, since they were fond of starcraft so many years, and there is no bw content anymore, thanks to blizzard we're forced to watch sc2 if we want 'starcraft' (though I believe many already left, and only diehard fans stay here).
In short, best way to describe it. Starcraft is like a lonely restaurant in a small town, it used to serve good food and now it serves junkfood, Ofc people will complain, since they're left with no other option. Some people already left the town to find other places (LoL, Dota). And only few stay here and still hope that the restaurant may become what once it was (read: Starbow gets own ladder)
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On January 23 2014 17:01 saddaromma wrote:tbh, to me, being unhappy with much whining and blaiming whiners for that sounds like hypocricy. Just try to remember how forums were clean and intelligent in bw era, and suddenly it became totally opposite in sc2 era. Do you really think people changed and became worse? Ofc not. There is no other thing to blame than the game itself (or its creators), now you could say, gtfo if you don't like it. We're happy without you bla bla bla. But people cant just quit easily, since they were fond of starcraft so many years, and there is no bw content anymore, thanks to blizzard we're forced to watch sc2 if we want 'starcraft' (though I believe many already left, and only diehard fans stay here). In short, best way to describe it. Starcraft is like a lonely restaurant in a small town, it used to serve good food and now it serves junkfood, Ofc people will complain, since they're left with no other option. Some people already left the town to find other places (LoL, Dota). And only few stay here and still hope that the restaurant may become what once it was (read: Starbow gets own ladder)
A couple things, the BW forums were nothing like you describe, and BW is still going on with SSL and soon GOM Classic.
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