EPTI dont wanna lynch hapa as I said earlier.
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
I dont wanna lynch hapa as I said earlier. | ||
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
On June 23 2013 20:48 marvellosity wrote: rayn seems to me to have put in some of the most effort on Day 1 into solving the game. A lot of his posts show inquisitive thinking and trying to determine motives. He just seems very interested in solving the game. I feel somewhat less strongly than I did on Day 1 for reason already mentioned, so we'll see where he goes from here. I agree with... um... someone? :D who said that DP flipping red actually makes Corazon look quite a bit better than DP flipping green. If they're mafia together then Corazon really didn't try to push the lynch off DP onto GK at all. The issue with this is that it relies on the assumption that GK is green, which isn't one we can really make with any certainty at this stage. Other than that his posts read genuine enough, his bitch argument with me is the same bitch argument we always seem to have when he's town. He seems to care although his absence around the lynch is a bit concerning. I feel the same about rayn. Cora though ... I just don't see the logic behind that statement. You are basically saying we can't assume that goodkarma is green therefore you have to assume that Cora is green? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
Tell me what you're thinking about him, then? | ||
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On June 23 2013 21:14 Ange777 wrote: Just to be clear, I had Cora as town until that halfhearted push on goodkarma. But take that push and his seemingly opportunistic (blue) role claim or not claim (why even mention it? Mentioning it can only be in order to make people doubt their scum read on him and will make him prone for possible roleblocks) and I don't see how you can so happily put him on your town list. If he is indeed mafia, then mafia will have to waste their roleblock on him now, rather than searching for 'real' blues. I'd argue the blue-claim is more him being a dejected arse. | ||
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
I am racking my brain but I really have difficulties to understand what you are trying to explain to me. Is it this? Cora has a town read on DarthPunk (flipped scum). He says he doesn't want his town read DarthPunk dead, therefore votes goodkarma. Only if we know that goodkarma is green and Cora tried to push the lynch from a scum player to a town player, we can peg him as scum? What if - speculations incoming - goodkarma is a mafia goon. Losing their mafia goon instead of their godfather would certainly be a better trade, especially as DarthPunk is considered a better scum player than goodkarma by a lot of us. If the above really is what you wanted to tell me, than I don't think it's logic is as sound as you think it is. | ||
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
On June 23 2013 20:59 Oatsmaster wrote: no kidding that wasnt helpful. It wasnt meant to be helpful. It was meant to be funny. Also I was way lazy and got decent reactions from it though. I dont wanna lynch hapa as I said earlier. So who do you want to lynch? Adam? | ||
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
Oats, did you actually seriously refuted hapa's case on you? I don't remember reading a defense. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
too lazy to quote. it was like 1. 2. 3. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
MARV TALK ABOUT ADAM. | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
On June 23 2013 20:27 Ange777 wrote: @Adam: Can you please clarify on the subject of your townreads? Are you saying that Cora, Marv and Hapa are your stronger town reads among the people who voted on GK or in general? What makes you so sure about them being town? They're my strongest townreads in the game, bar Yamato who would sit either first or second behind Cora. It still blows my mind that DP actually flipped scum, because when I compare both wagons side-by-side I see most of the towniest people all apparently on the wrong side of this lynch, and seemingly a hoard of semi-lurkers got together and offed the mafia godfather. To say i'm perplexed is an understatement. Cora is town to me because of his general attitude. He isn't afraid to be himself, even if it gets him lynched. Constantly trying to redirect people onto more productive endeavors - trying to get coag to stop tunneling marv who hasn't even posted in the thread yet, for example. He feels exactly the same way he did in Duel mafia, except his reasoning is stronger, which probably stems from playing a few games since then. Marv is town to me because we seem to be thinking along the same train of thought. The fact that his reads seem to echo most of my own fills me with some confidence that he is probably town. Hes been trying to figure people out from what I can tell and he seems to share my confusion with the current state of the game - that someone I've given a town read on probably has me tricked. His meta read on me is another plus. Hes probably the person most familiar with my scum play after our escapades in Hero mafia and hes got me nailed dead-to-rights - my scum play is wooden, not fluid and I am literally petrified of posting for fear of being accused. Hapa feels town because hes actually posting and engaging people. In duel I defended scum hapa for over a cycle before common-sense finally set in that I was defending him even when he wasn't defending himself. His willingness to engage me as soon as I joined the game, and again tonight, was more than I ever got out of him in Duel. Bottom line is if his post count drops off and he becomes withdrawn in the thread, hes scum - I don't see that from him here. He has one of the biggest filters in the thread and hes quick to interrogate people if he doesn't understand what they're saying. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On June 23 2013 21:28 Ange777 wrote: Well if he is indeed mafia, then I believe he has sucessfully made town worry about killing off their blues. I assume you meant "if he is indeed blue"? I am racking my brain but I really have difficulties to understand what you are trying to explain to me. Is it this? Cora has a town read on DarthPunk (flipped scum). He says he doesn't want his town read DarthPunk dead, therefore votes goodkarma. Only if we know that goodkarma is green and Cora tried to push the lynch from a scum player to a town player, we can peg him as scum? What if - speculations incoming - goodkarma is a mafia goon. Losing their mafia goon instead of their godfather would certainly be a better trade, especially as DarthPunk is considered a better scum player than goodkarma by a lot of us. If the above really is what you wanted to tell me, than I don't think it's logic is as sound as you think it is. No, I meant if he's mafia fakeclaiming, then they're gonna have to hide their roleblock on him otherwise he's gonna have to answer some tricky questions. So they won't be roleblocking other, potential blues. Also no, that's not what I was getting at at all. Sigh. That's not what I've written either, I guess it's a language barrier thing. I'm trying to say that Corazon would look signifcantly *worse* if GK was also scum rather than if GK was town (because in this scenario Corazon barely tried to get the lynch off DP). | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
How is marv town because he is 'right' about you? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
What the fuck is wrong with so many people this game going "why u talk about x" when every single time it's because the person was asked about x. Christ. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
On June 23 2013 21:45 marvellosity wrote: Oats, he was asked specifically about them. What the fuck is wrong with so many people this game going "why u talk about x" when every single time it's because the person was asked about x. Christ. I asked for his scumreads too. | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
Ill ignore you until you don't make my piss rise to a boil. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
NEVER MIND. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
On June 23 2013 21:47 Adam4167 wrote: Nah, you had your chance to open up a dialogue with me and you blew it. Ill ignore you until you don't make my piss rise to a boil. blood. word is blood. If you are town, and you dont want to talk to me, making me think you are scum, is that good? | ||
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
On June 23 2013 21:38 marvellosity wrote: No, I meant if he's mafia fakeclaiming, then they're gonna have to hide their roleblock on him otherwise he's gonna have to answer some tricky questions. So they won't be roleblocking other, potential blues. Ah ok. Also no, that's not what I was getting at at all. Sigh. That's not what I've written either, I guess it's a language barrier thing. I'm trying to say that Corazon would look signifcantly *worse* if GK was also scum rather than if GK was town (because in this scenario Corazon barely tried to get the lynch off DP). I think I finally understand what you are saying. Sorry for having to explain it over and over again. I am not sure I agree with it yet, I'll have to think about it. | ||
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