Thank you HiroPro and Acrofales for hosting a great game, and all the players for playing!
I think OO would have won straight out by shooting Coag instead of Oats, given that I was tunneling so hard. A large part of why I thought Adam was scum was that there was (from my POV), very little to explain D1 concerning OO bus, and I was pretty paranoid after back to back uncertain mislynches, and I thought that scum in your position (non DP voters) would have to eventually pull 1 mislynch off the DP voter pool to win.
So yes, shoot Coag -> I blind tunnel Oats into oblivion, and Oats probably counter vote me.
I only started listening to dead Adam once Oats died, which served as the trigger that he wished his death would be. After that it was pretty easy to sift through OO being scum (beside the setup spec which I was doubting till the end).
@Cora Agree with what Adam said. It's not scummy to be wrong, or even hard defend scum. In fact, many times town are wrong (e.g. me until the endgame). Claiming to save your hide really should be last resort (and I might try to argue never to claim in that way), because it gives scum ammo (e.g. "this guy is panicing really hard must be scum"), and lets them blue shot / rb better. Better to let your behavior speak for itself.
On July 05 2013 13:25 slOosh wrote: Thank you HiroPro and Acrofales for hosting a great game, and all the players for playing!
I think OO would have won straight out by shooting Coag instead of Oats, given that I was tunneling so hard. A large part of why I thought Adam was scum was that there was (from my POV), very little to explain D1 concerning OO bus, and I was pretty paranoid after back to back uncertain mislynches, and I thought that scum in your position (non DP voters) would have to eventually pull 1 mislynch off the DP voter pool to win.
So yes, shoot Coag -> I blind tunnel Oats into oblivion, and Oats probably counter vote me.
I only started listening to dead Adam once Oats died, which served as the trigger that he wished his death would be. After that it was pretty easy to sift through OO being scum (beside the setup spec which I was doubting till the end).
@Cora Agree with what Adam said. It's not scummy to be wrong, or even hard defend scum. In fact, many times town are wrong (e.g. me until the endgame). Claiming to save your hide really should be last resort (and I might try to argue never to claim in that way), because it gives scum ammo (e.g. "this guy is panicing really hard must be scum"), and lets them blue shot / rb better. Better to let your behavior speak for itself.
I'll never admit to the setup speculation being intentional (for my own benefit) in public. Never happened.
On July 05 2013 08:12 ObviousOne wrote: I dunno. Don't know how to close out a scum game yet. Tried to make it look like it was sloosh's shot but I guess I fucked up enough D1.
It's not only your fault (despite the fact you really should have lynched GK). We had timezone/RL "issues" and should have planned the end of D1 earlier.
i think we all learned an important lesson here just don't bus me day one and you will live to see day 2
Don't be afk and useless day one and you won't get bussed. Leading the wagon on me for absolutely no reason after saying you were going to make a case on shiao was pretty WTF. Not shooting coag and failing to actually use the town cred you sacked me over was frustrating and it seems as if you didn't really try that hard at LYLO.
all in all this game was a soul crushing experience.
To be fair, and I'm kinda drunk, so my "fair" is kinda brutal: yay!!! DP lost a scum game nanaananaannnannananaana
You shouldve said something about, WHEN I FLIP, KILL OO. yeah, hammer it into my thick skull.
Anyway, I didnt play very well.
Sorry Oats. I don't think you played poorly, given that I didn't really consider you for a long time ... I think the big thing that threw me off was that you were gunning for me based on activity. Which is strange b/c I had a 1 page filter from Roulette, which is the game you said you finally read me as town in ObsQT. Activity for me means nothing. I've outgrown lurking as scum. If I'm not posting, it's because I'm not at a computer :/
And then the rest was b/c DP and rayn bussing OO was just so farfetched in my mind and I was paranoid to tunnel mode that I was basically lynching the whole pool of non DP voters based off that.
On July 05 2013 13:25 slOosh wrote: Thank you HiroPro and Acrofales for hosting a great game, and all the players for playing!
I think OO would have won straight out by shooting Coag instead of Oats, given that I was tunneling so hard. A large part of why I thought Adam was scum was that there was (from my POV), very little to explain D1 concerning OO bus, and I was pretty paranoid after back to back uncertain mislynches, and I thought that scum in your position (non DP voters) would have to eventually pull 1 mislynch off the DP voter pool to win.
So yes, shoot Coag -> I blind tunnel Oats into oblivion, and Oats probably counter vote me.
I only started listening to dead Adam once Oats died, which served as the trigger that he wished his death would be. After that it was pretty easy to sift through OO being scum (beside the setup spec which I was doubting till the end).
@Cora Agree with what Adam said. It's not scummy to be wrong, or even hard defend scum. In fact, many times town are wrong (e.g. me until the endgame). Claiming to save your hide really should be last resort (and I might try to argue never to claim in that way), because it gives scum ammo (e.g. "this guy is panicing really hard must be scum"), and lets them blue shot / rb better. Better to let your behavior speak for itself.
I'll never admit to the setup speculation being intentional (for my own benefit) in public. Never happened.
? I was referring to my own setup spec, e.g. traitor / 2 family, which I summarily shut off as not possible. The one scenario I didn't realize until the end, which turned out to be true, was that there was a pretend bus attempt D1 that happened to get out of control.
On July 05 2013 13:25 slOosh wrote: Thank you HiroPro and Acrofales for hosting a great game, and all the players for playing!
I think OO would have won straight out by shooting Coag instead of Oats, given that I was tunneling so hard. A large part of why I thought Adam was scum was that there was (from my POV), very little to explain D1 concerning OO bus, and I was pretty paranoid after back to back uncertain mislynches, and I thought that scum in your position (non DP voters) would have to eventually pull 1 mislynch off the DP voter pool to win.
So yes, shoot Coag -> I blind tunnel Oats into oblivion, and Oats probably counter vote me.
I only started listening to dead Adam once Oats died, which served as the trigger that he wished his death would be. After that it was pretty easy to sift through OO being scum (beside the setup spec which I was doubting till the end).
@Cora Agree with what Adam said. It's not scummy to be wrong, or even hard defend scum. In fact, many times town are wrong (e.g. me until the endgame). Claiming to save your hide really should be last resort (and I might try to argue never to claim in that way), because it gives scum ammo (e.g. "this guy is panicing really hard must be scum"), and lets them blue shot / rb better. Better to let your behavior speak for itself.
I'll never admit to the setup speculation being intentional (for my own benefit) in public. Never happened.
? I was referring to my own setup spec, e.g. traitor / 2 family, which I summarily shut off as not possible. The one scenario I didn't realize until the end, which turned out to be true, was that there was a pretend bus attempt D1 that happened to get out of control.
I almost won the hosts' ire when I kept asking them questions in the thread. That's what I was referring to, about myself. Sorry Hiro
Oats kinda fell into his regular town meta, which is his "play in the moment!" meta. Not that I can blame him, coz I do the same thing a lot, but this game it was kinda really important to think of Eddie Murphy's wife...
But it shouldn't have mattered. Oats' town meta vs. Coag's confirmed town shot or sl0osh's hammer time? Kill (one of) the confirmed dudes and let Oats' meta play out against OO's D1 town cred.
Eh, Ange was told she could be sane, insane, paranoid or naive, so blabbing a red check at the first check would have been silly. That would only rule out naive
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