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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 05 2013 04:25 GMT
#2261
Thank you HiroPro and Acrofales for hosting a great game, and all the players for playing!

I think OO would have won straight out by shooting Coag instead of Oats, given that I was tunneling so hard. A large part of why I thought Adam was scum was that there was (from my POV), very little to explain D1 concerning OO bus, and I was pretty paranoid after back to back uncertain mislynches, and I thought that scum in your position (non DP voters) would have to eventually pull 1 mislynch off the DP voter pool to win.

So yes, shoot Coag -> I blind tunnel Oats into oblivion, and Oats probably counter vote me.

I only started listening to dead Adam once Oats died, which served as the trigger that he wished his death would be. After that it was pretty easy to sift through OO being scum (beside the setup spec which I was doubting till the end).

@Cora
Agree with what Adam said. It's not scummy to be wrong, or even hard defend scum. In fact, many times town are wrong (e.g. me until the endgame). Claiming to save your hide really should be last resort (and I might try to argue never to claim in that way), because it gives scum ammo (e.g. "this guy is panicing really hard must be scum"), and lets them blue shot / rb better. Better to let your behavior speak for itself.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
July 05 2013 04:26 GMT
#2262
On July 05 2013 13:25 slOosh wrote:
Thank you HiroPro and Acrofales for hosting a great game, and all the players for playing!

I think OO would have won straight out by shooting Coag instead of Oats, given that I was tunneling so hard. A large part of why I thought Adam was scum was that there was (from my POV), very little to explain D1 concerning OO bus, and I was pretty paranoid after back to back uncertain mislynches, and I thought that scum in your position (non DP voters) would have to eventually pull 1 mislynch off the DP voter pool to win.

So yes, shoot Coag -> I blind tunnel Oats into oblivion, and Oats probably counter vote me.

I only started listening to dead Adam once Oats died, which served as the trigger that he wished his death would be. After that it was pretty easy to sift through OO being scum (beside the setup spec which I was doubting till the end).

@Cora
Agree with what Adam said. It's not scummy to be wrong, or even hard defend scum. In fact, many times town are wrong (e.g. me until the endgame). Claiming to save your hide really should be last resort (and I might try to argue never to claim in that way), because it gives scum ammo (e.g. "this guy is panicing really hard must be scum"), and lets them blue shot / rb better. Better to let your behavior speak for itself.

I'll never admit to the setup speculation being intentional (for my own benefit) in public. Never happened.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18317 Posts
July 05 2013 04:29 GMT
#2263
On July 05 2013 10:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 08:18 ObviousOne wrote:
On July 05 2013 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 05 2013 08:12 ObviousOne wrote:
I dunno. Don't know how to close out a scum game yet. Tried to make it look like it was sloosh's shot but I guess I fucked up enough D1.

It's not only your fault (despite the fact you really should have lynched GK). We had timezone/RL "issues" and should have planned the end of D1 earlier.

i think we all learned an important lesson here
just don't bus me day one and you will live to see day 2


Don't be afk and useless day one and you won't get bussed. Leading the wagon on me for absolutely no reason after saying you were going to make a case on shiao was pretty WTF. Not shooting coag and failing to actually use the town cred you sacked me over was frustrating and it seems as if you didn't really try that hard at LYLO.

all in all this game was a soul crushing experience.

To be fair, and I'm kinda drunk, so my "fair" is kinda brutal: yay!!! DP lost a scum game nanaananaannnannananaana
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 05 2013 04:29 GMT
#2264
On July 05 2013 13:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oh right.

You shouldve said something about, WHEN I FLIP, KILL OO.
yeah, hammer it into my thick skull.

Anyway, I didnt play very well.

Sorry Oats. I don't think you played poorly, given that I didn't really consider you for a long time ... I think the big thing that threw me off was that you were gunning for me based on activity. Which is strange b/c I had a 1 page filter from Roulette, which is the game you said you finally read me as town in ObsQT. Activity for me means nothing. I've outgrown lurking as scum. If I'm not posting, it's because I'm not at a computer :/

And then the rest was b/c DP and rayn bussing OO was just so farfetched in my mind and I was paranoid to tunnel mode that I was basically lynching the whole pool of non DP voters based off that.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 05 2013 04:32 GMT
#2265
On July 05 2013 13:26 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 13:25 slOosh wrote:
Thank you HiroPro and Acrofales for hosting a great game, and all the players for playing!

I think OO would have won straight out by shooting Coag instead of Oats, given that I was tunneling so hard. A large part of why I thought Adam was scum was that there was (from my POV), very little to explain D1 concerning OO bus, and I was pretty paranoid after back to back uncertain mislynches, and I thought that scum in your position (non DP voters) would have to eventually pull 1 mislynch off the DP voter pool to win.

So yes, shoot Coag -> I blind tunnel Oats into oblivion, and Oats probably counter vote me.

I only started listening to dead Adam once Oats died, which served as the trigger that he wished his death would be. After that it was pretty easy to sift through OO being scum (beside the setup spec which I was doubting till the end).

@Cora
Agree with what Adam said. It's not scummy to be wrong, or even hard defend scum. In fact, many times town are wrong (e.g. me until the endgame). Claiming to save your hide really should be last resort (and I might try to argue never to claim in that way), because it gives scum ammo (e.g. "this guy is panicing really hard must be scum"), and lets them blue shot / rb better. Better to let your behavior speak for itself.

I'll never admit to the setup speculation being intentional (for my own benefit) in public. Never happened.

? I was referring to my own setup spec, e.g. traitor / 2 family, which I summarily shut off as not possible. The one scenario I didn't realize until the end, which turned out to be true, was that there was a pretend bus attempt D1 that happened to get out of control.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
July 05 2013 04:33 GMT
#2266
On July 05 2013 13:32 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 13:26 ObviousOne wrote:
On July 05 2013 13:25 slOosh wrote:
Thank you HiroPro and Acrofales for hosting a great game, and all the players for playing!

I think OO would have won straight out by shooting Coag instead of Oats, given that I was tunneling so hard. A large part of why I thought Adam was scum was that there was (from my POV), very little to explain D1 concerning OO bus, and I was pretty paranoid after back to back uncertain mislynches, and I thought that scum in your position (non DP voters) would have to eventually pull 1 mislynch off the DP voter pool to win.

So yes, shoot Coag -> I blind tunnel Oats into oblivion, and Oats probably counter vote me.

I only started listening to dead Adam once Oats died, which served as the trigger that he wished his death would be. After that it was pretty easy to sift through OO being scum (beside the setup spec which I was doubting till the end).

@Cora
Agree with what Adam said. It's not scummy to be wrong, or even hard defend scum. In fact, many times town are wrong (e.g. me until the endgame). Claiming to save your hide really should be last resort (and I might try to argue never to claim in that way), because it gives scum ammo (e.g. "this guy is panicing really hard must be scum"), and lets them blue shot / rb better. Better to let your behavior speak for itself.

I'll never admit to the setup speculation being intentional (for my own benefit) in public. Never happened.

? I was referring to my own setup spec, e.g. traitor / 2 family, which I summarily shut off as not possible. The one scenario I didn't realize until the end, which turned out to be true, was that there was a pretend bus attempt D1 that happened to get out of control.

I almost won the hosts' ire when I kept asking them questions in the thread. That's what I was referring to, about myself. Sorry Hiro
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18317 Posts
July 05 2013 04:40 GMT
#2267
Oats kinda fell into his regular town meta, which is his "play in the moment!" meta. Not that I can blame him, coz I do the same thing a lot, but this game it was kinda really important to think of Eddie Murphy's wife...


But it shouldn't have mattered. Oats' town meta vs. Coag's confirmed town shot or sl0osh's hammer time? Kill (one of) the confirmed dudes and let Oats' meta play out against OO's D1 town cred.

Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18317 Posts
July 05 2013 04:42 GMT
#2268
On July 05 2013 08:05 marvellosity wrote:
That Monty Hall thing in that Endgame post is fucking brilliant. Props to whoever wrote that.

OO threw the game by shooting Oats, really.

<3
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 05 2013 04:46 GMT
#2269
Oh marv, did you really yolo shot or did you get to use the check night 1?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 05 2013 04:55 GMT
#2270
Nah yamato masoned him and claimed to him.
lucky marv.
No gg, No skill.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 05 2013 05:01 GMT
#2271
Dang ... no wonder. Yamato why hide behind me
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 05 2013 07:09 GMT
#2272
I just got incredibly unlucky, basically. If I had masoned anyone but Marv, this game would have been WWWAAAAAAAAYYYYY different.
Writer@WriterYamato
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 09:35 GMT
#2273
Why do you think I didn't use my mason?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
July 05 2013 13:40 GMT
#2274
GG everyone It was nice playing with you although my time spent playing this game wasn't actually that long ^^
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
July 05 2013 15:21 GMT
#2275
Imagine if you checked DP night one, ange.

You being insane would cancel his godfather, still giving a red check.

Yeah, id feel pretty ripped off dying to a cop check as godfather.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18317 Posts
July 05 2013 17:16 GMT
#2276
Eh, Ange was told she could be sane, insane, paranoid or naive, so blabbing a red check at the first check would have been silly. That would only rule out naive
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 05 2013 20:13 GMT
#2277
lol this game. thanks for playing everyone.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 20:52 GMT
#2278
Your setups are always very interesting and well done, Hiro.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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