EPTSo you agree with marv that the red flip didn't affect the towniness of the players on the goodkarma wagon?
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
So you agree with marv that the red flip didn't affect the towniness of the players on the goodkarma wagon? | ||
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
@Adam: So you agree with marv that the red flip didn't affect the towniness of the players on the goodkarma wagon? Sorry, wrong name. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
I've just been privileged to play in a town that imploded after pushing 2 scum on day 1, due to the faulty logic "he wasn't on the scum lynch D1, therefore scummy" so i'm hesitant to make that call again here when I see objectively townie play from them, at least in my opinion. If either Marv or Hapa were scum with DP, they'd have rolled over this town and we'd have lynched OO for sure. Their thread control would have been enormous. No way they'd have let him get lynched if he was their teammate. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
If either Marv or Hapa were scum with DP, they'd have rolled over this town and we'd have lynched OO for sure. Their thread control would have been enormous. No way they'd have let him get lynched if he was their teammate. Lotta wifom. So whos scum? Have you found out yet? | ||
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
How did you go from here ... On June 23 2013 01:58 marvellosity wrote: People I think are town to varying degrees: Corazon Oats rayn yamato People I have reason to think they're both town and mafia: ShiaoPi goodkarma People I'm unsure about but I think they're bad lynches: Hapahauli Sylencia DarthPunk Coagulation People that I'd like to kill: Ange slOosh Obvious ... to here ... On June 23 2013 06:24 marvellosity wrote: I dunno :/ Basically waiting for slOosh / Ange to report their findings. coag's just a crapshoot. Obvious sounded better but now he's disappeared again. I'm just browsing GK's filter since you mentioned him. What's the strongest point(s) against him would you say? ... to here in the end? On June 23 2013 06:55 marvellosity wrote: ##Vote: goodkarma Screw him being absent and screw his terrible case on Oats. I don't buy his explanation about the meta thing very much, because he *was* bringing him up on that basis and that basis was bad. I'm also still failing to understand why he was so shocked that Oats wanted to kill yamato for having backflipped reads after being suspicious of Hapa and DP. I was flicking through gk's filter in I Swear (I understand that he was mafia) but GK does seem to be pretty aware of Oats' meta in general. I simply don't get how he could be so suspicious of Oats at that stage for what Oats had done. You were willing to lynch Sloosh or me in your first post. Later on, both of us had only posted a "I am back." post and you seem to have forgotten about wanting to lynch one of us. What is missing as well is commenting on goodkarma between the first post and your vote post. In your list post, you had three possible lynch candidates. Even if you take away Obvious after your conversation, you still had two other candidates. And you gave both of them a pretty easy way out because neither of us was really pressured when we came back. Instead you vote someone who you said could possibly be town as well. If we assume that you had put Sloosh and me on the To Kill List because of inactivity, nothing really promised that we would be more active just by the "I am back post". Combine the above with you trying to soft push for a goodkarma lynch instead of DarthPunk repeatedly (which goodkarma himself already pointed out as possibly scum motivated), I am very suspicious of you right now. | ||
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Especially since he later said he didnt wanna kill DP that day. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On June 23 2013 17:13 yamato77 wrote: Cora, can you explain this further? Why would you tell the thread you have a role and not actually claim it? On June 23 2013 21:16 marvellosity wrote: I'd argue the blue-claim is more him being a dejected arse. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On June 23 2013 05:35 cDgCorazon wrote: [/B]Alright, I'll give in. Hapa has good points. ##Unvote On June 23 2013 05:36 cDgCorazon wrote: Well hey look, now my strong town read is going to be lynched. Please get off the DP train Yamato. I unvoted Yamato when he was going to be lynched and not DP. My unvote put DP in the lead. If I was just trying to save DP with my lynch, I wouldn't have unvoted Yamato at that point in time. I didn't think DP was scum and Hapa convinced me to not vote Yamato. Therefore, I didn't vote for either of them. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
Perhaps Ange, as it would be really easy for scum to cast doubt on me and push for my lynch D2. That got me really suspicious. The third one is probably in one of the lurkers and semi-lurkers (GK/ShiaoPi/Coag/OO/SloOsh and others I'm probably forgetting). | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
give me something that you arent sure of and I can OPEN YOUR MIND. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On June 24 2013 00:24 Oatsmaster wrote: Am I just pissing you off, or am I scum? give me something that you arent sure of and I can OPEN YOUR MIND. I've been suspicious of you since the beginning of the game. You 180'd on Hapa...that's really worrying for me. If you want the rest, read my filter. | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
Cora, you really need to reread the thread if you are even considering Ange. Actions speak louder than behavior, and her actions helped secure a scum lynch, much more than other players who may look town. @Ange, I guess you and marv hashed it out but my point was that to say that cora is scum for not pushing GK over DP makes little sense, because scum life is more important than town-perception. "If anything" means that I would see that piece of information as more a town tell than scum tell. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 23 2013 22:28 Ange777 wrote: Marv, I remember you being pretty active and vocal and pushy. You feel very reserved in this game. And I don't like that. How did you go from here ... ... to here ... ... to here in the end? You were willing to lynch Sloosh or me in your first post. Later on, both of us had only posted a "I am back." post and you seem to have forgotten about wanting to lynch one of us. What is missing as well is commenting on goodkarma between the first post and your vote post. In your list post, you had three possible lynch candidates. Even if you take away Obvious after your conversation, you still had two other candidates. And you gave both of them a pretty easy way out because neither of us was really pressured when we came back. Instead you vote someone who you said could possibly be town as well. If we assume that you had put Sloosh and me on the To Kill List because of inactivity, nothing really promised that we would be more active just by the "I am back post". Combine the above with you trying to soft push for a goodkarma lynch instead of DarthPunk repeatedly (which goodkarma himself already pointed out as possibly scum motivated), I am very suspicious of you right now. I don't really see the problem? Unless you currently have a scumread on yourself or on slOosh? By that point Obvious had already started making me re-evaluate my read on DP from leaning town-do not lynch to these are valid points-how comfortable am I lynching him. Although neither of you had posted much since you got back to the thread, what you'd posted seemed reasonable enough and that was borne out by how the time leading up to the lynch developed. I don't really understand what I'm supposed to be answering for here. There were literally no strong wagons at all until late in the day, and your contention is that I was mafia just crossing my fingers and hoping we lynched a townie without doing anything about it? Are you serious? | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
Finally established a tentative town read on Coag. Helped get DP lynched without a second thought (except all things Marv, but that's an issue outside the scope of the game purposes perhaps). This one made me laughter out loud: + Show Spoiler [lol] + On June 23 2013 09:08 Coagulation wrote: Well marv next time maybe you should say something like "btw coag I will be ignoring you because I dont like you anymore" instead of just acting all awkward about shit and pussy footing around the issue and coming off as super scummy to me. I cant be expected to keep track of all the people that I butt hurt on a game to game basis. or wait.... maybe I can. OK. Town read on Oats stands until I get the chance to look at some of his scum games here on TL to see if maybe I've tricked myself into misreading him. I'll look it up tonight. Shiao still on my scum radar. Need to review GK as he has come back, that's points in his favor already. Shiao disappeared in our last game together where he was scum and then did the play-from-behind thing which I absolutely will not accept this time. I don't think they are scum together, but I do think one of them is scum, and it's most likely Shiao. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On June 24 2013 00:31 slOosh wrote: Cora, you really need to reread the thread if you are even considering Ange. Actions speak louder than behavior, and her actions helped secure a scum lynch, much more than other players who may look town. Yeah, I understand. However, instead of asking me questions, she just calls me scum for what I did. Townies would ask me questions and try to figure out my thought process (like some did), but scum would just try to jump to conclusions and get me lynched. I'm not say Ange is 100% scum and that we should try to lynch her. I'm not even saying Ange looks very scummy and we should thing about lynching her. I'm just saying that it makes me a bit suspicious. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 24 2013 00:54 ObviousOne wrote: Holy shit Oats has one solitary scum game in his profile and it's Ego? I'm fucked. He was scum in Dr Who | ||
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