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On October 02 2012 02:05 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 01:59 Risen wrote: EBWOP: And in that post you quoted I'm talking about Shady Sands. Did you think I was talking about kush? I'm confused now. How does it even make sense that you were talking about Shady? You said you didn't blame annul for his vote on kush. Matt asked you if you and annul both thought that him saying he was fine with voting a non-scum read was a scum slip. Show nested quote +Risen wrote: He's completely fine with lynching a towny, just because... it's not like the person he's ok with flipping green is playing horribly. I don't see how that applies to Shady at all. It's a perfect description of kush though. So if you weren't talking about kush, then I think we're both confused?
How about you go read what Mattchew said and what I responded to before you try speaking in thread again.
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@risen I also thought you were talking about me. l2specify antecedents
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Nevermind that's too much faith to be putting into someone. I'll spell it out for you.
Mattchew says
On October 02 2012 01:07 Mattchew wrote:Shady said before the game, before he knew his alignment, that he was going to troll. I have yet to see a shady case about his posting after his "trollfest" (if there is I missed it). If we lynch someone for doing something so non-alignment telling we are bad and we should feel bad. If you are voting Shady I want your reasons for the vote beyond "he was trolling and thats anti-town herp derp" STOP VOTING SHADY SANDS WITH SHIT REASONING
I was thinking that we should lynch Coag because he hasn't put in any effort after getting mad at Caller about his game. He got mad at Caller for not allowing him to play in a game and then joins this one and parks a vote on Shady with shitty ass reasoning. The thing holding me back on this is that this might actually be how Coag plays, and I dont think I have played with him in a real game that I remember. Austinmc hasn't contributed jack shit, which is very different from his usual productive town self Kingjames was extremely awkwardly wishy-washy with his attempt to call out keirathi. He talks about focusing on scum hunting but has spent almost all his time trying to defend and focusing on himself. His first post also reeks of scum trying to look tryhard townie. I want to a lot more from BC, his lack of contributions make me very nervous about him. ##vote kingjames01
See those big bold letters? My discussion of Shady and Kush were two entirely separate things.
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Oh shit I thought Keir was Kreb continuing something from earlier. I am bad, and I am sorry.
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On October 02 2012 02:01 kingjames01 wrote: What? Spies? Where do you think I've been for the past while? I've been playing The Resistance.
You can see it documented at boardgamegeek if you want.
There we play Spies vs Resistance.
Me saying spies in a mafia game doesn't mean that I made a slip just as me saying Town doesn't mean I'm a spy in a Resistance game.
Why don't you guys actually do some real analysis. Take a look at Mementoss. What's he been up to and why doesn't he care about our win condition?
Can you point to somewhere you reference this time spent playing The Resistance?
Even without that this makes sense to me, and I don't see a reason to vote KJ over Shady simply b/c of something that IS NOT A SLIP AT ALL.
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On October 02 2012 03:47 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 02:01 kingjames01 wrote: What? Spies? Where do you think I've been for the past while? I've been playing The Resistance.
You can see it documented at boardgamegeek if you want.
There we play Spies vs Resistance.
Me saying spies in a mafia game doesn't mean that I made a slip just as me saying Town doesn't mean I'm a spy in a Resistance game.
Why don't you guys actually do some real analysis. Take a look at Mementoss. What's he been up to and why doesn't he care about our win condition?
Can you point to somewhere you reference this time spent playing The Resistance? Even without that this makes sense to me, and I don't see a reason to vote KJ over Shady simply b/c of something that IS NOT A SLIP AT ALL.
The Resistance PBF Forum
I played in 22, 27, 29 and hosted 31. Contrast that with the last time I played in a mafia game which was in January.
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I don't think the spy thing is a slip at all either. Especially since there is no mention of spies anywhere in OP role list.
@kingjames, your completely right that my filter and effort so far is pretty shit. But I don't see why you would chose me over the 10 other people who has like 3-5 posts with minimal substance.
Can you give us a scum read with a better more fleshed out explanation that can be discussed and cause some sort of additional discussion?
As per marvs / others point on Kushs meta im going to ##Unvote As it seems he doesn't make any sense regardless of alignment and has shown similar thoughts and logic loops in other games.
When is the deadline? 7.5 hours? I won't be making any lynch deadlines if thats the case.
I will have to re look through for a good lynch target.
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On October 02 2012 03:38 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 02:05 Keirathi wrote:On October 02 2012 01:59 Risen wrote: EBWOP: And in that post you quoted I'm talking about Shady Sands. Did you think I was talking about kush? I'm confused now. How does it even make sense that you were talking about Shady? You said you didn't blame annul for his vote on kush. Matt asked you if you and annul both thought that him saying he was fine with voting a non-scum read was a scum slip. Risen wrote: He's completely fine with lynching a towny, just because... it's not like the person he's ok with flipping green is playing horribly. I don't see how that applies to Shady at all. It's a perfect description of kush though. So if you weren't talking about kush, then I think we're both confused? How about you go read what Mattchew said and what I responded to before you try speaking in thread again.
Here's what I saw happening:
1) kush says he would vote for Shady despite having a green read on him 2) annul says "Damn, that was easy. ##vote kush" 3) You say "I don't blame you for [your vote on kush]" to annul 4) (unrelated) Matt comes in and tells everyone to stop voting for Shady 5) Matt asks you and annul if you both thought that kush saying he would vote for Shady as a scumtell. 6) You said in reply to Matt: I don't think it's a scum slip, I think it's a tiny thing that adds up to him being the most likely scum candidate up for lynch right now.
He's completely fine with lynching a towny, just because... it's not like the person he's ok with flipping green is playing horribly. The main reason I'm voting for him was outlined in my initial vote post in here.
Can you honestly not see how I thought you were talking about Kush? I don't even see how you claim that this reply is about Shady at all.
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On October 02 2012 03:45 Risen wrote: Oh shit I thought Keir was Kreb continuing something from earlier. I am bad, and I am sorry. Oh. Carry on, then.
Although I'm still a bit confused
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Stop shitting on me. They aren't logic loops... like im trying to do logic and failing. It's just me not giving a shit about logic I assure you.
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On October 02 2012 04:22 kushm4sta wrote: Stop shitting on me. They aren't logic loops... like im trying to do logic and failing. It's just me not giving a shit about logic I assure you. Then stop playing shitty and do you job as town and lynch scum, not somebody who you think is town but has bullied you in the past. Thats fucking worthless, ffs.
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Anyways, I don't think the whole "spies" thing was a scum slip by KJ. I was curious why he said it, which was why I asked. I totally buy his explanation.
That doesn't change the fact that I still don't like his wishy-washy attitude earlier in the game, nor how he picked Mementoss from all the other lurkers/non-contributors.
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When is lynch by the way?
It looks like nothing is stopping the kj lynch atm. Bye kj
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Lol I'm lost as to how Shady managed to live through today rofl. KJ man, sorry to see you get lynched for something bads are thinking is a scumslip that wasn't a scumslip lol
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I'm not too sure on kingjames. I can see his play coming from a noob townie. I dislike VE's play more, though. Perhaps I'm not used to his style, but now that talismania also found him scummy I guess I'm not being too unreasonable in thinking this. ##Vote VisceraEyes
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On October 02 2012 02:01 austinmcc wrote: I'm voting KJ. Spies aren't mentioned anywhere. Could be third party, could be the scum team, we don't know.
All I know is that's 100% not town, "spy reads."
##Vote: kingjames01
Got half an hour til back to my expt and caught up to this post.
What is this? I understand the first post bringing it up but this vote is extremely lazy and sets off all sorts of alarms given that kj already has this wagon going.
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On October 02 2012 05:10 talismania wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 02:01 austinmcc wrote: I'm voting KJ. Spies aren't mentioned anywhere. Could be third party, could be the scum team, we don't know.
All I know is that's 100% not town, "spy reads."
##Vote: kingjames01 Got half an hour til back to my expt and caught up to this post. What is this? I understand the first post bringing it up but this vote is extremely lazy and sets off all sorts of alarms given that kj already has this wagon going. That vote is extremely lazy.
I also unvote him later because he gave an explanation for spies.
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I want to see someone who is familiar with VE's meta respond to that talismania post. Marv mentioned that he was acting like his normal town meta. Who is right??
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So people are expressing displeasure over the kj vote. What else do you suggest? Realistically.
You say it's a lazy bandwagon but you are too lazy to push another.
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