EPTIn the end it's 100% MLG's or DH's responsibility to provide a watchable stream, I just hope Twitch is the company that can see to that for future events as well.
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Longshank
1648 Posts
In the end it's 100% MLG's or DH's responsibility to provide a watchable stream, I just hope Twitch is the company that can see to that for future events as well. | ||
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
On February 27 2012 22:16 PH wrote: God forbid a US tournament would air at US times... You're actually serious? Notice the date of the posts and the fact that they were talking about the EUROPEAN qualifier, which started at around 3am in EUROPE.... Nobodys complaining about the main event time slot.... | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
On February 27 2012 22:16 PH wrote: God forbid a US tournament would air at US times... You ignorant. It'a about charging EU different than the target market. | ||
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
To me this is a big downgrade and I would really hope MLG can bring back the "watch it all" function form previous events. Paying 20 bucks for this kinda made me feel ripped off. I will proboably not pay for an MLG event until this is fixed since its such an important part of the event gone missing. Its simply not worth the time and money investment as it is. Other than that it was ok despite the occasional lag on the VODs. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On February 27 2012 22:48 Robinsa wrote: I had one huge problem with this event. I live in Asia and Ive been following MLG for a long time. Since the games usually start some time around midnight and continue into noon I usually watch EVERYTHING the next day if I have the chance to. So I bought the PPV pass this weekend and it turned out I couldnt restream the event. VODs is fine and all but the hype around the game, the commentators talking about the players is just as important. I want an event, not just a set of games. I can go to youtube for that. To me this is a big downgrade and I would really hope MLG can bring back the "watch it all" function form previous events. Paying 20 bucks for this kinda made me feel ripped off. I will proboably not pay for an MLG event until this is fixed since its such an important part of the event gone missing. Its simply not worth the time and money investment as it is. Other than that it was ok despite the occasional lag on the VODs. This is actually a valid complain, you should send an email to MLG concerning this issue. | ||
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KurenTV
United States24 Posts
After the announcement that the MLG Winter Arena was going to PPV I decided I would just wait to see the free preview on Friday before I made up my mind about buying a PPV pass. I wasn't too worried about it as I was already planning to go to Boulder Beers BarCraft on Sunday for the finals, but after seeing the production value and having Tastosis cast the first few games I caved into buying the pass as soon as the preview was done. I ended up watching the main stream all day at flawless 1080p and no lag. I'm not sure if it made a difference but the MLG stream site (with quad view and the other special stuff) didn't even respond when I tried to do the test stream so I ended up just going to Twitch.tv for the preview and decided to subscribe and watch through them and their site all weekend. On day two I woke up a little before the pre-show, tuned in and watched a few matches on the main stream before switching over to A1 for Tastosis casting the Losers Bracket. I then continued to watch Tastosis as they moved back to the main stream for the end of the day and was able to view all of it at 1080p and with no lag. Day three came around and I woke up early with plans to carpool with a good friend up to Boulder for the BarCraft. He was running a little late so we stayed in Denver and watched the first match up on my TV with 1080p and no lag once again. After the game ended we quickly drove up to Boulder Beer to catch the matches up there. When we first went in everything seemed to be running fine so we grabbed a couple beers and found a seat to watch from. Sadly it began to lag almost right after we sat down. Pausing for 15 seconds and then running for 5 and things like that. However I figured this was due to Boulder Beers poor internet (using a phones 4G for bandwidth I believe). They then decided to try and fix the stream so they took it off all the TVs for a few minutes. This is when we decided to finish our beers, close out our tabs and make it back to Denver for the last few games. We got back and the stream was still running fine on my TV at 1080p. The only lag I had all weekend was a slight video lag (audio was fine) on the main stream during game 3 of the finals. However once I realized the lag was on all the resolutions I simply switched to a different stream and muted it while keeping the audio going from the main stream at 240p. However the main stream suddenly died and I simply turned on the other streams volume and kept the main streams Twitch.tv page open. When the main stream came back, I heard Tastosis casting in the background and I just switched back to the main stream and closed the other one. After the quick shut down of the main stream I had no lag issues for the rest of the tournament. All in all, I really enjoyed this MLG production and found it worth my $20. The main caster stage looked really nice and the main player stage looked freaking awesome. I really loved seeing the New York skyline throughout the tournament. I also really loved the "Nos Corner". Having a few other top casters giving more light to a game after its been played was great especially when they go into a replay during bigger down times. On that note the main casting line up was great. I loved seeing Nick, Dan, Marcus, JP and Rob cast together. I would personally like to see all these people invited back as I really enjoy all of their casting. My one complaint is a small one. I would much rather like to see the VODs contain the casters intros and post game analysis with the Nos Corner. Not only is this content that I love to see but It would help show off the production when the VODs go free to watch. Anyway, I figured I should add that I had a great experience watching directly through Twitch.tv with no lag and at 1080p all weekend. The production was great and I would definitely buy a PPV Arena like this again. Thanks to MLG and Twitch.tv for a great weekend of StarCraft  | ||
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Dundron2000
Sweden1140 Posts
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SovSov
United States755 Posts
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Marcus420
Canada1923 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:03 SovSov wrote: so are we still awaiting on an official message where they tell us how many tickets were bought? Who says they are going to? They don't have too. Sundance said there will be at least 2 more events. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
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SovSov
United States755 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:08 Marcus420 wrote: Who says they are going to? They don't have too. Sundance said there will be at least 2 more events. They don't have to? Sure, they don't have to, but they would be massive douche bags if they didn't. They called this a community experiment, they called it something we have to conform to in order to save eSports. How can they just go about this all without telling us the RESULTS? They put the weight on OUR shoulders the least they could do is tell us how well we did. | ||
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SACtheXchng
168 Posts
On February 28 2012 04:44 SovSov wrote: They don't have to? Sure, they don't have to, but they would be massive douche bags if they didn't. They called this a community experiment, they called it something we have to conform to in order to save eSports. How can they just go about this all without telling us the RESULTS? They put the weight on OUR shoulders the least they could do is tell us how well we did. Oh wow, I gave MLG a lot of shit for this, uhm, "Community Experiment" as you call it, but I guess people like you prove them right. It's gullible people like you who make blatant lying an actually viable and profitable business decision for MLG. What I'm about to tell you is probably going to hurt in a way that you haven't felt since your parents told you that there is no Santa Claus. MLG did not want you to "conform in order to save eSports". MLG don't care about "saving eSports". MLG just wanted you to conform, period. They took your money not for the betterment of whatever arbitrary ideal. They took your money because they're a business. There's one way and one way only that they release actual numbers from the weekend, and that is if they think that doing so will in one way or another benefit them financially. Certainly not to pacify the gullible people who bought into their "saving eSports charity bullshit". | ||
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SovSov
United States755 Posts
On February 28 2012 05:06 SACtheXchng wrote: Oh wow, I gave MLG a lot of shit for this, uhm, "Community Experiment" as you call it, but I guess people like you prove them right. It's gullible people like you who make blatant lying an actually viable and profitable business decision for MLG. What I'm about to tell you is probably going to hurt in a way that you haven't felt since your parents told you that there is no Santa Claus. MLG did not want you to "conform in order to save eSports". MLG don't care about "saving eSports". MLG just wanted you to conform, period. They took your money not for the betterment of whatever arbitrary ideal. They took your money because they're a business. There's one way and one way only that they release actual numbers from the weekend, and that is if they think that doing so will in one way or another benefit them financially. Certainly not to pacify the gullible people who bought into their "saving eSports charity bullshit". Haha, it's cute how you think you're so smart but maybe you should go read more into Sundance interviews and anouncments before attempting a post like that. Everything in my post are things that have come out of Sundance's own mouth. What you said is true but out of context with all the things MLG claimed this was. If they wanted us to not expect results then they shouldn't have used phrases such as "community experiment" and "saving eSports". | ||
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BuddhaMonk
781 Posts
- Create a TV mode for the viewer (where the controls are the appropriate size for viewing on a TV) - Do the next one in a proper TV studio with a live audience - I know some games had a dedicated observer, but at least the main stream should always have that | ||
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WigglingSquid
5194 Posts
- 1080p was unwatchable. 720p was mostly okay past the first day. (Yes, I was always on a connection that could handle it.) Central Europe, usual Twitch.tv problem. - Caster pairing. Just mixing casters randomly because they are all established names just isn't good, really. Good ol' "analytical + entertaining/emphatic" should be easy enough to follow, even when you need rotation to balance the workload. - Observing. ST_Legend can't be everywhere, but US events should start training a western version of him. Other than these points, it was all good. | ||
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SACtheXchng
168 Posts
On February 28 2012 08:29 SovSov wrote: Haha, it's cute how you think you're so smart but maybe you should go read more into Sundance interviews and anouncments before attempting a post like that. Everything in my post are things that have come out of Sundance's own mouth. What you said is true but out of context with all the things MLG claimed this was. If they wanted us to not expect results then they shouldn't have used phrases such as "community experiment" and "saving eSports". So everything I said is true, albeit out of context with all the things MLG claimed this was? I also said that they blatantly lied, and that gullible people like you bought into these lies. I am in no way at all shocked that people like you expect results after hearing phrases such as "community experiment" and "saving eSports". Hmmmm.... | ||
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mlspmatt
Canada404 Posts
For some reason MLG's stream always gives me problems. I can watch players streaming from TL all day without a hitch, but as soon as I turn on an MLG stream the problems start. I don't know why, maybe some tech nerd can help me out. And it really sucked when MKP won and all I could hear was .... ... silence. Get some music or something to play when the champ is crowned or it feels very anti climactic. | ||
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Crake_
United States74 Posts
Two reasons for this. First, the added video length is kind of an anti-spoiler. Second, I really enjoyed the post-game commentary, particularly the heavy analysis on the C stream. And since there were times when I would watch a secondary-stream game and catch the C-stream game later, I'd really like to be able to see the (very nicely produced!) post-game analysis. One other thing: for those of us with slow internet connections, a pause button on the layout would be nice, so that I don't have to close out the whole window (with schedule/chat/updates/etc.) to stop the stream. Thanks! | ||
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mlspmatt
Canada404 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:59 Crake_ wrote: Really enjoyed the event, thanks to the MLG team for all the hard work. Not sure if this has been said, but I'd really like for post-game commentary to be included in game VODs, as it is for GSL. Two reasons for this. First, the added video length is kind of an anti-spoiler. Second, I really enjoyed the post-game commentary, particularly the heavy analysis on the C stream. And since there were times when I would watch a secondary-stream game and catch the C-stream game later, I'd really like to be able to see the (very nicely produced!) post-game analysis. One other thing: for those of us with slow internet connections, a pause button on the layout would be nice, so that I don't have to close out the whole window (with schedule/chat/updates/etc.) to stop the stream. Thanks! I second this. I like hearing the post game chat as well -- it's part of the game as far as I'm concerned. | ||
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