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bovineblitz
United States314 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:12 farside604 wrote: Like the casting, it was kinda cool to divide up Tastosis throughout the tournament. It was very weird not having a crowd it felt much less exciting. Given the issues with switching between streams, I thought it was kind of annoying that Tastosis were on any given stream at any given time. | ||
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SACtheXchng
168 Posts
On February 27 2012 09:25 enecateReAP wrote: I feel my IQ dropping from reading all the ill-thought out posts in here, especially when people are blaming MLG for the stream lag when it isn't them handling the streaming x.X; People just need to take a step back, either cool down and post something which actually contributes or login to reddit, there are many like you there. (To add: I got 1080p without any lag for the first two days with minor lag on 3rd day) Was very happy with the broadcast personally. You should have posted BEFORE your IQ dropped, not after. People are complaining to the entity that took their money promising to deliver value in return. Whether this entity handled providing said value themselves or whether they out-sourced it to another entity is of exactly zero relevance. Whether the inability to provide said value has to do with this entity being incapable of producing it, or whether this entity is incapable of finding business partners that are, is of exactly zero relevance. | ||
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skunkz
France32 Posts
For 10$, I'll pay I guess. By allowing people that didn't want to pay they may get more customers next time as they know what they are gonna pay for now. It's not that bad after all. (posted this in other thread but belongs here) | ||
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ZandeSC2
Sweden23 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:44 Zocat wrote: What has their personality to do with my complain? To clarify - I dont mean "AAAH ITS SO EXCITING". But more of an "aeh" sound. I'm talking about (hyperbole): "Well this game was really good, aeh, <playername> had a good strategy and his opponent, aeh, just couldnt deal with this. So, aeh, what do you think <caster>" + Show Spoiler [Basically this] + Starts ~0:22 I will edit my post to clarify this (since I think you could misinterpret my complain as a "dont be so excited" complain). now i'm riding with you! I started to notice it just now when you said it, while i watch day9 and destiny etc. (at the moment) All i can say is Destiny use "aeeeh" alot. Day9 use "aeeeuhh" alot. Majority of American casters/streamers use "aeuh" alot. Might just be the way they are? i dont know. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
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RAW-BERRY
United States26 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:08 SACtheXchng wrote: You should have posted BEFORE your IQ dropped, not after. People are complaining to the entity that took their money promising to deliver value in return. Whether this entity handled providing said value themselves or whether they out-sourced it to another entity is of exactly zero relevance. Whether the inability to provide said value has to do with this entity being incapable of producing it, or whether this entity is incapable of finding business partners that are, is of exactly zero relevance. There are definitely people directly blaming MLG for the lag, and they are flat out wrong. Whether you got your moneys worth is a completely different subject. | ||
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bovineblitz
United States314 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:48 RAW-BERRY wrote: There are definitely people directly blaming MLG for the lag, and they are flat out wrong. Whether you got your moneys worth is a completely different subject. MLG hosts a tournament, the finals lag and cut out, and you're telling me that it's not MLG's fault at all? That's craziness. | ||
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Ampster
31 Posts
•Lag issue I don't know if this is an ISP thing or whatever the hell you called it, but I experienced lag every 3 seconds (on Day 3) or so almost as if I'm watching a slideshow, its just really that bad. As for the record, I have watched MLG Anaheim, Raleigh, and Providence MLG streams and the amount of lags I was experiencing in this PPV event is so much more than the lags I experienced in MLG Anaheim, Raleigh, and Providence combined. The only suggestions I can give are either stick with the company that provide the stream last year because it clearly they're doing a much better job in providing lag-free stream or fix the issue that I doubt they will do. •Dim Lighting on Player There were times when the lighting on the players are too dim (red and blue lights), I can barely see the player's face on the webcam during the games. What's the point of having webcams when you can barely see their faces. I hope for a better lighting in the next event. •Observer Don't know what to say except the observer is very bad, misses a lot of stuff. Maybe for the next event, have one or two guys delicate to observing (like what gom did). •Price After I watched all the contents and stuff, I will say that the production value of this event is at $15 at max ($10 for gold); $7 at least no more less than that. But my preferable price would be $12 for non-gold; $10 for gold. | ||
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Gaius Romanus
United States48 Posts
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SACtheXchng
168 Posts
On February 27 2012 12:48 RAW-BERRY wrote: There are definitely people directly blaming MLG for the lag, and they are flat out wrong. Whether you got your moneys worth is a completely different subject. Once more: The people blaming MLG for the lag have every fucking right to do so. It's kind of a chain of command. This is how it works: People -> $$$ -> MLG MLG -> Lag -> People People -> Shit -> MLG And now a free piece of advice for MLG: MLG -> $$$ -> Twitch Twitch -> Lag -> MLG MLG -> Shit -> Twitch And certainly NOT: People -> $$$ -> MLG MLG -> $$$ -> Twitch Twitch -> Lag -> MLG MLG -> Lag -> People People -> Pity -> MLG People -> Shit -> Twitch | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
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Mord
Norway171 Posts
However, you need to do proper testing of your streaming setup with Twitch, there are some major issues there. For every one of your qualifiers *and* every single episode of f*ck slasher I have been getting massive amounts of lag, whereas I for the rest of the day beforehand could watch any of the free pro streams in maximum quality without any lag whatsoever. I do expect a smooth viewing experience when I pay 20 dollars to watch a tournament, and I can only hope you guys work out whatever issues you are having with Twitch. Even if the issues lie with them, the responsibility falls on you. | ||
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Elean
689 Posts
On February 27 2012 13:03 SACtheXchng wrote: Once more: The people blaming MLG for the lag have every fucking right to do so. It's kind of a chain of command. This is how it works: People -> $$$ -> MLG MLG -> Lag -> People People -> Shit -> MLG And now a free piece of advice for MLG: MLG -> $$$ -> Twitch Twitch -> Lag -> MLG MLG -> Shit -> Twitch And certainly NOT: People -> $$$ -> MLG MLG -> $$$ -> Twitch Twitch -> Lag -> MLG MLG -> Lag -> People People -> Pity -> MLG People -> Shit -> Twitch Exactly. If twitch lags, MLG just has to use something else. Every single tournament using twitch has had lag issue at some point. So yes, MLG didn't do what is necessary to guarantee a lag free stream. Now, using twitch is probably better than charging an extra 10$ to guarantee no lag. And since I'm not paying 20$ anyway, I can't really complain, but I really think tournaments should stop working with twitch. | ||
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Furniture
Chile6 Posts
- Lag on day 3 : This was really bad, i couldn't watch almost anything until the finals, and yes, it's MLG responsability cuz they provided no alternative. - Dedicated Observer : will really add some value to the streams with a dedicated observer. i'll even say focus more on 1-2 streams with twin casters and dedicated observers and leave the other 2 streams with single casters. - Anticlimatic Post Finals : You missed something at the end, it went kind of awkward at the end, you could have added some thing, idk, balloons popping out of the ceiling, fireworks on the back, a trophy or something | ||
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Sackings
Canada457 Posts
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Desolat
United Kingdom29 Posts
On February 10 2012 06:27 Lorch wrote: Instead of bitching about shitty broadcast times (which do suck for europeans) I used this cool invention called VOD for a few of those games and had a good time listening to the casting (keep in mind I only watched the casts with apollo thus far, can't really say anything about those with pumba (?) ). Maybe some more stats about players, their matchups, how they do on what map etc. (similiar to what gsl has been doing since this season) would be nice, but all in all I was pretty happy with the production quality in general, especially given that all of it was free in decent quality. I guess I'll be able to say more once I watch more as the korean qualifier is the one I care about the most by far. VODs are no fuck, just like watching casted replays is no fun. | ||
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
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shrinkmaster
Germany947 Posts
Bad scheduling, laggy stream and many more things already mentioned. If this would have been a normal MLG i would not complain, but with the raised price my expectations also raised. Next time i won't pay for it, if the price stays the same. | ||
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
1) As was mentioned before, the lag on stream was really bad sometimes and this was the only thing that made me doubt the 20$ purchase. I know it was mainly a Twitch.tv problem, but you are partnering with them so it's your responsibility to provide a lag-free stream. 2) I was ok with paying 20$ now but I expect the next arena's to be priced better, around 10$ preferably. Besides that, great event! Also props on the timings on Sunday, was perfect for EU. | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
On February 10 2012 06:22 Ingebrigtsen wrote: I really liked the part were the broadcast was on when all the europeans were sleeping On February 10 2012 06:22 robih wrote: couldnt watch anything cause the times (even of the european qualifier) are just horrible for europeans God forbid a US tournament would air at US times... | ||
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