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ninjamyst
United States1903 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:22 SCJethro wrote: His team isnt there -- all the other players he beat arent going to hug him. Its hard to have huge celebration without a crowd too. Leenock would hug him =P. But yes, no presentation or ceremony was pretty sad. Almost made the tournament insignificant. Remember HerO's dreamhack ceremony? That was epic. This was not. | ||
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Voros
United States222 Posts
Rob had a few problems with speaking over his co-caster on the first day, but as of Saturday his microphone etiquette improved tremendously. Enjoyed his commentary and presence, and based on the high quality of his work, I'd like to see further integration of Blizzard's E-sports team in future casts. He has a bright future in front of the microphone. Might try separating duties more between casters and anchors--make Wheat and JP full-time anchors who provide panels, updates, and insight between games, and limit the casts themselves to established duos (Tastosis, DayX, etc). I didn't care for the new casters on the third stream (got drunk by taking a drink everytime one of them said "slo-verlords"), but I like the idea of auditioning new casting talent on the less-watched games in the first few rounds of the tournament. Would like to see a rotation of new talent auditioned in this spot in future MLG events. | ||
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farside604
Canada127 Posts
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Stoffelhase
Germany162 Posts
what would have happened at mlg if: huk would have won against drg -> huk vs mkp finals Finals: first "bo3" -> actually a extended bo7 with MKP 2:0 in the lead then i.e. huks wins this 4:2 now we have 2 options: 1.) huk won the tournament overall without MKP ever dropping to the lower bracket! he would just be eliminated with losing his first match (i cant really believe this) or 2.) MKP drops to the losers bracked (like he did against drg now) and the will play another "bo3". But this would have been their third "bo3". Would this then be actually a Bo11 with huk 4:2 in the lead? this case actually never happened so far, does anyone know FOR SURE how this would have been handled (good explaination and maybe sources)? | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5913 Posts
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Spaceneil8
United States317 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:13 Stoffelhase wrote: sorry if i post this here again, but i have a rule question: what would have happened at mlg if: huk would have won against drg -> huk vs mkp finals Finals: first "bo3" -> actually a extended bo7 with MKP 2:0 in the lead then i.e. huks wins this 4:2 now we have 2 options: 1.) huk won the tournament overall without MKP ever dropping to the lower bracket! he would just be eliminated with losing his first match (i cant really believe this) or 2.) MKP drops to the losers bracked (like he did against drg now) and the will play another "bo3". But this would have been their third "bo3". Would this then be actually a Bo11 with huk 4:2 in the lead? this case actually never happened so far, does anyone know FOR SURE how this would have been handled (good explaination and maybe sources)? Huk wouldn't win it 4-2. MKP only has to win 2 games while huk has to win 4. MKP losing 4 games would be equivalent to losing two bo3 sets, 2 games each. | ||
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Secret05
United States342 Posts
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Enki
United States2548 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:24 CEPEHDREI wrote: So in the end again not good enough for $20. you can get the same at every other big event(maybe not the same player lineup but thats not enough for $20). Bad casting (except tastosis/grubby/maybe slightly djwheat), bad ending(no price ceremony? NOTHING?!? Come on...), no crowd(BIG MINUS), interviews were boring aswell. It was just game after game(and for me not even enough games to rly say that was worth it). Too many games at the same time with too many bad casters, bad observing. Bad times for europe, laggy streams, streams going off in the finals, people who havent paid can watch 4free, drpepper stream or whatever it was called was kinda useless. It was a good event but as i said not good enough for $20. Pretty much how I feel about it. Dunno if I will even bother buying the next one if restreams will be available or if people who haven't paid can watch the streams in full quality....like wtf. In the event that I would feel like buying it, I wouldn't pay $20 for it again...it was worth maybe $10, $15 at the most in my mind. | ||
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Stoffelhase
Germany162 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:17 Spaceneil8 wrote: Huk wouldn't win it 4-2. MKP only has to win 2 games while huk has to win 4. MKP losing 4 games would be equivalent to losing two bo3 sets, 2 games each. Have you any proof for this? Just saying one Bo7 loss counts as two Bo3 losses doesnt really convince me. | ||
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:25 Stoffelhase wrote: Have you any proof for this? Just saying one Bo7 loss counts as two Bo3 losses doesnt really convince me. http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/competitions/25#event_54_competition-format Point #4 and #5 | ||
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Endall
United States66 Posts
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Tula
Austria1544 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:25 Stoffelhase wrote: Have you any proof for this? Just saying one Bo7 loss counts as two Bo3 losses doesnt really convince me. if the other guy is up 2:0 from the extended series? Honestly with that kind of advantadge you'd need to win 4:1 at the worst, which would be a fairly decisive series. The more common case is that the finals either go to the guy coming from the upper bracket straight up, or that he wins within a few games at most. We have had quite a few MLGs where the final was a single Bo3 because the upper bracket guy won straight. | ||
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quaffle
United States249 Posts
The Good
The Bad
There are many more Good things I didnt mention because they are things I straight-up expect from tournaments of your status. There are also more good and bad things I am forgetting, Im sure. But overall, as I stated above, I really enjoyed the tournament. It was 100% worth the $20. Anyone that is complaining about the cost is either too young to own a credit card/paypal, just didnt have the time to watch this weekend (thus will wait for the VODs), or are simply butt hurt (sorry guys). If people are going to "pirate" the tournament live, dont be bitching about the price, just continue to hurt e-sports in your own way and stop spamming threads with your whining. Honestly, I wish there was a Barcraft I could have attended within an hour of me (Round Lake, IL) that I could have spent my $20 on beer instead. ^_^ Cheers MLG. P.S. Fly Husky and Day9 out next time no matter the cost, I love them. o.0 (no homo) | ||
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Tula
Austria1544 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:10 BlackGosu wrote: why shouldn't I? after all this should be a free event. I suppose you think LAN support is a privilege to have as well? god, think before you post. are you serious? I hope to god this is an epic troll attempt at best. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:25 Stoffelhase wrote: Have you any proof for this? Just saying one Bo7 loss counts as two Bo3 losses doesnt really convince me. If huk advanced to the finals, he starts the Bo7 down 0-2, meaning he has to win 4 games, while MKP only needs to win 2. If huk wins the first 2, the series is tied 2-2. At the point it would be MKP dropping down to the lower bracket where the play a Bo3 to decide the finals. | ||
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feardragon
United States973 Posts
A lot of the excitement the first two days was watching these super pumped and rigged matches. And it was completely fine that there wasn't a crowd for those first two days because there were so many great matches going on that there was hype built up just by the fact that so many of these amazing players were playing. But when it comes down to one game being played at a time on the last day for the finals, with lots of downtime in-between, you need really solid analysis between games and a crowd to produce hype. What ended up happening was the casters were unable to provide much deep post-game analysis because they were just trying to build hype for these epic games being played in the finals. Unfortunately, it's really hard to build hype when there's lag going on in games, big downtime, and such. Thus, the casters aren't able to provide the proper amount of hype for these games as the tournament nears its end and they're torn between providing analysis and trying to create the hype. What needs to happen is the casters need to be able to depend on the crowd's cheering, aw's and oo's to provide hype so they can both focus on providing analysis, and build off the crowd's hype. When the casters build off the crowd's hype, the crowd becomes even more hyped and they feed off each other. THAT is what can make many games incredibly epic. I was happy to see Sundance acknowledge that some things could have gone better and I hope he makes an effort to address this problem. Even MKP was addressing the issue after his win. Another glaring problem was the lack of an awards ceremony but I think that's been talked about a good lot so I'll let other people continue to post on that. | ||
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Stoffelhase
Germany162 Posts
On February 27 2012 11:31 dcemuser wrote: http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/competitions/25#event_54_competition-format Point #4 and #5 Thank you! That explains everything but might lead to another bad case: If Player A gets first in Poolplay with a 4-1 matchrecord, just losing to Player B and they meet again in the grand final (Player B coming from the lower bracket) then the Winner Bracket champion Player A goes into the final with a disadvantage. This feels wrong, but seems to be the system :/ | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:34 ZandeSC2 wrote: If they annoy you so much, why dont you turn off the sound? Their personalities and their "aaah" makes them cast these events and GSL code S aswell. I hope they dont change at all. What has their personality to do with my complain? To clarify - I dont mean "AAAH ITS SO EXCITING". But more of an "aeh" sound. I'm talking about (hyperbole): "Well this game was really good, aeh, <playername> had a good strategy and his opponent, aeh, just couldnt deal with this. So, aeh, what do you think <caster>" + Show Spoiler [Basically this] + Starts ~0:22 I will edit my post to clarify this (since I think you could misinterpret my complain as a "dont be so excited" complain). | ||
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bovineblitz
United States314 Posts
On February 27 2012 09:24 goldenwitch wrote: The MLG quality has been great, you guys seriously need to relax a little bit and fix the issues with your own computer, rather than complaining about problems other people aren't even having. I missed over 3min of a game at a barcraft after it had already been reduced to 480p due to stream quality/lag issues. I had no idea what happened and it came back with lopsided supply. If they're going to promote going to barcrafts they should at least make sure it's going to work in low quality for said events. | ||
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bovineblitz
United States314 Posts
On February 27 2012 09:25 enecateReAP wrote: I feel my IQ dropping from reading all the ill-thought out posts in here, especially when people are blaming MLG for the stream lag when it isn't them handling the streaming x.X; People just need to take a step back, either cool down and post something which actually contributes or login to reddit, there are many like you there. (To add: I got 1080p without any lag for the first two days with minor lag on 3rd day) Was very happy with the broadcast personally. It's MLG's event, thus when there's streaming issues it's MLG's problem. Pretty fucking simple logic. | ||
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