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meelmutsTL
Netherlands16 Posts
Only one thing really REALLY stood out for me. No aftershow. MKP won and the presentation was: OKAY THATS IT thanks for watching all byebye go to bed now. This is no way to present your climactic moment! Look at GSL team arena! I want huge celebrations, I want MKP being hugged to death from all sides by all the other players, I want to see the other players celebrating.. throw us a bone! | ||
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JethroTV
United States206 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:20 meelmutsTL wrote: I posted this on Reddit just now too but it's worth repeating: Only one thing really REALLY stood out for me. No aftershow. MKP won and the presentation was: OKAY THATS IT thanks for watching all byebye go to bed now. This is no way to present your climactic moment! Look at GSL team arena! I want huge celebrations, I want MKP being hugged to death from all sides by all the other players, I want to see the other players celebrating.. throw us a bone! His team isnt there -- all the other players he beat arent going to hug him. Its hard to have huge celebration without a crowd too. | ||
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allerion
62 Posts
On February 27 2012 09:35 turdburgler wrote: what is the title of someone who fixes the technical problems with your internet? an engineer. So by that logic, the engineer on a train is actually an engineer? Rofl, if you dont have an engineering degree, you aren't an engineer. Would have been mad if I payed the $20 for that, considering I was getting annoyed at the restream I was watching. | ||
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CEPEHDREI
Germany1521 Posts
you can get the same at every other big event(maybe not the same player lineup but thats not enough for $20). Bad casting (except tastosis/grubby/maybe slightly djwheat), bad ending(no price ceremony? NOTHING?!? Come on...), no crowd(BIG MINUS), interviews were boring aswell. It was just game after game(and for me not even enough games to rly say that was worth it). Too many games at the same time with too many bad casters, bad observing. Bad times for europe, laggy streams, streams going off in the finals, people who havent paid can watch 4free, drpepper stream or whatever it was called was kinda useless. It was a good event but as i said not good enough for $20. | ||
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Pyre
United States1940 Posts
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battyone
United States180 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:20 meelmutsTL wrote: I posted this on Reddit just now too but it's worth repeating: Only one thing really REALLY stood out for me. No aftershow. MKP won and the presentation was: OKAY THATS IT thanks for watching all byebye go to bed now. This is no way to present your climactic moment! Look at GSL team arena! I want huge celebrations, I want MKP being hugged to death from all sides by all the other players, I want to see the other players celebrating.. throw us a bone! I agree, it would have been nice even if they left the Dr. Pepper/players lounge stream up for a little bit, a check presentation, etc. There may not be a crowd but that's all still part of a tourney. With that being said I really liked the presentation of this weekend, the overview mode was awesome, and besides a few lag issues (finals most prominently) everything was smooth and lag free. There were definately a lot more matches crammed into a weekend than I'd normally expect to see on a MLG weekend, and it was nice to not have long periods of downtime. The ticket at the bottem telling you what was hapening on the other streams was priceless, and really helped me manage what streams I wanted to focus on over the weekend. In the future I'd like to see the streams stay up during the finals, it kinda dropped at an extremely pivitol moment in 3set, and it would be a shame to have that happen again in the future. Tho it was nice of them to go over/show us the replay of what happened anyway. | ||
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
Especially Wheat & Tasteless (though the others do as well): You guys often cannot say a complete sentence without "ahh". I know it's difficult to think of cool & fun stuff on the fly (probably even more in dualcasting and you expected your partner to jump in), but those "aaahs" really annoy me. Just have a small pause (or talk slower in non exciting moments) - it's better (mentally say "pause" to yourself when you would say "aah" normally), but please try to work on that. Edit, to clarify: I'm not talking about "OMG AAAH IT'S SO EXCITING". I'm fine with that. I'm talking about (hyperbole): "Well this game was really good, aeh, <playername> had a good strategy and his opponent, aeh, just couldnt deal with this. So, aeh, what do you think <caster>" | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:23 allerion wrote: So by that logic, the engineer on a train is actually an engineer? Rofl, if you dont have an engineering degree, you aren't an engineer. Would have been mad if I payed the $20 for that, considering I was getting annoyed at the restream I was watching. what you say confuses me greatly the ending was so weird when everyone was so shocked by the ending, maybe if mlg want more of a climatic ending they could of kept all/most of the pros in the broadcast room for the finals. go to the pro players after each game to hear their whines/thoughts and then they would of applauded at the end. the dead silence at the end seemed to confuse everyone. On February 27 2012 10:20 meelmutsTL wrote: I posted this on Reddit just now too but it's worth repeating: Only one thing really REALLY stood out for me. No aftershow. MKP won and the presentation was: OKAY THATS IT thanks for watching all byebye go to bed now. This is no way to present your climactic moment! Look at GSL team arena! I want huge celebrations, I want MKP being hugged to death from all sides by all the other players, I want to see the other players celebrating.. throw us a bone! this was also odd. wheres the oversized cheque or some random razor girl giving out the prize to make all the nerds get nervous. just anything would of been great. some confetti and party poppers would of been enough :D | ||
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foen
Netherlands111 Posts
Also, the lack of crowd did cheapen the feel a bit, but I think you guys can easily solve that by having 1 or 2 reporters ready at active barcrafts to catch those moments. Edit: yeah, twitch.tv really made watching it very unpleasant, especially on the third day. | ||
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
I found the actual content of the tournament worth it. Brackets were good, players were too. I would have liked to see a better casting line-up, but that's no dealbreaker for me. | ||
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ZandeSC2
Sweden23 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:26 Zocat wrote: Basically caster feedback: Especially Wheat & Tasteless (though the others do as well): You guys often cannot say a complete sentence without "ahh". I know it's difficult to think of cool & fun stuff on the fly (probably even more in dualcasting and you expected your partner to jump in), but those "aaahs" really annoy me. Just have a small pause (or talk slower in non exciting moments) - it's better (mentally say "pause" to yourself when you would say "aah" normally), but please try to work on that. If they annoy you so much, why dont you turn off the sound? Their personalities and their "aaah" makes them cast these events and GSL code S aswell. I hope they dont change at all. | ||
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LoB
United Kingdom32 Posts
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
still got logged out on day 9. Main stream died for for about 5 minutes during the finals... 1080p is basically unwatchable, terrible anti-aliasing and frame glitches. FIX THIS! | ||
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Airforce
6 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:29 Derez wrote: I will not be paying 20 USD again for similar content streamed through twitch.tv. It's fine as a streaming service for individual gamers and 'free' tournaments, but it obviously is not good enough to provide a PPV stream with and it has a history of simply being unreliable in Europe. There were lag issues this weekend not only at MLG, but also at ROG and I think the overall record of twitch speaks for itself. Twitch is obviously improving slowly, but it's not yet good enough to offer PPV content, especially for 20 USD. I found the actual content of the tournament worth it. Brackets were good, players were too. I would have liked to see a better casting line-up, but that's no dealbreaker for me. Completely agree. If they don't work out their streaming service and VOD player (holy hell twitch, that thing is just bad), I'm definitely not paying for another event of this type. Had lag pretty much troughout the entire event, watched day 3 mostly in 360/480p and day 1 was even worse than that. I would be perfectly fine with that for a free event, but 20$ is really too much to just not care about it. And just like you said, content itself was pretty good, still a room for improvement though for example some kind of winner ceremony would be nice, or more post match interviews etc... not just ''Ok he won, see you in Columbus'' and free stream had a lot more potential than that. Have someone constantly there doing interviews with players, talking with them about their games etc... There was just very little actual content there. | ||
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Champloo
Germany1850 Posts
1. Live audience. Even tho the finnish crowd was bad, it was still more entertaining than having no reactions at all. If this would've been like HSC, in a cool atmosphere and everyone having fun etc it would've been ok, but it was all just too serious. Even HSC had a winner ceremony in the barcraft down stairs at the end, MLG didn't have a ceremony at all. 2. Casters. Tastosis are great, but if you wanted to watch some not so top matches you had to listen to Tumba, JP, Wheat and other not so optimal casters, that were just harder to listen to as the Assembly casters. And I really don't like Total Biscuit. 3. Game quality. I know that's not really in MLG's hand, but the games at Assembly were just more exciting. It would've helped if MLG changed the qualifier system a bit, because having 8 NA players there just drags down the overall quality of games (Huk and Idra games are most of the time not exciting, and the other NA players except Sheth are just not good enough). Also doing this at the same time as Asus ROG totally fucked up the european roster. Imagine Stephano, Kas, Dimaga, Nerchio, White-Ra and Mana being at MLG instead of Merz, Pomi, Sjow etc. 4. Extended series and double elimination bracket. Group play and single elimination bracket playoffs are just much more entertaining for the viewer. I really can't believe MLG didn't get rid of extended series after 2011. And the winnerbracket final, loserbracket final and grand final just don't feel as epic as semifinals and grandfinals in a single elimination bracket. Not worth 20$ at all, especially if you can get Assembly at the same weekend. The next Arena event needs to have a live audience, different casters and better foreigners and a price not higher than 10$ for me to buy it again. | ||
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Fake)Plants
United States373 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:24 CEPEHDREI wrote: So in the end again not good enough for $20. you can get the same at every other big event(maybe not the same player lineup but thats not enough for $20). Bad casting (except tastosis/grubby/maybe slightly djwheat), bad ending(no price ceremony? NOTHING?!? Come on...), no crowd(BIG MINUS), interviews were boring aswell. It was just game after game(and for me not even enough games to rly say that was worth it). Too many games at the same time with too many bad casters, bad observing. Bad times for europe, laggy streams, streams going off in the finals, people who havent paid can watch 4free, drpepper stream or whatever it was called was kinda useless. It was a good event but as i said not good enough for $20. This post sums up my feelings on the event. I enjoyed watching such high level games with a great cast players from around the world. I mean, it is hard to get a cast of 32 players together that is more frightening than this one was. The production quality was great for most of the weekend, except for the lag in some crucial moments during the finals. A couple of great story lines developed very early on too. That being said I can't imagine spending 20$ on something like this again as well. MLG has to very carefully consider the pricing of their next arena, or they will have to change the dynamic significantly. Also, the fact that people could watch the finals without paying is quite discouraging to those who actually bought the pass. | ||
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GARO
United States2255 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:26 BlackGosu wrote: well i got to watch the broadcast free. only complaint is that sometimes the ad for subscription keeps coming up and i have to refresh it until it streams properly. Are you for real? You're complaining because the PPV wall actually did something once in a while to try and deter you? | ||
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
But I did like the 'drag streams onto layout' thing. That was slick, needs to stay for sure. | ||
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
On February 27 2012 10:53 GARO wrote: Are you for real? You're complaining because the PPV wall actually did something once in a while to try and deter you? why shouldn't I? after all this should be a free event. I suppose you think LAN support is a privilege to have as well? god, think before you post. | ||
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