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On December 15 2011 11:32 Keldory wrote: They removed two of the only maps that you can FFE on. Thanks, Blizz, as if PvZ wasn't hard enough already. I didn't know FFE was an opening for PvP or PvT.
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Maps look meh.
Wish they would remove the Gold from every map too.
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wait, on arid, is the spawn point near the "base" near the rocks, or the one not near rocks?
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On December 15 2011 11:34 Tantaburs wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 11:32 johnnywup wrote:On December 15 2011 11:32 Keldory wrote: They removed two of the only maps that you can FFE on. Thanks, Blizz, as if PvZ wasn't hard enough already. you can ffe on every map You can't safely FFE on metal or xelnaga. you have to make 2-3 cannons but yes you can
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Where are the rocks? Was Dustin fired? Only 2 on the first map? I'm disappointed.
At the very least they removed some of the new crap ones.. Please remove shattered temple too!
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nice to have another 1v1 map, imo, just keeps the map pool interesting
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Most important of this: They only took out the non-tournament maps, so you can still downvote the two new maps, and have a downvote left for a tourney map, like before. I approve.
Arid Plateau: Hated it, then realized it was 2-player. That's a hard natural, but also a long rush distance, which mitigates that a bit. Beyond that.....this is actually really good! Easy third, fourth...even the fifth isn't two hard, so it naturally lends itself to a macro game. Nice and open, too.
Entombed Valley: ROCKS. But, actually, these rocks are used a lot better than I'm used to. You can take the third, and then kill the rocks while the hatch is morphing. In vertical and cross positions, there's an easy progression of bases. Horizontal positions I'm less fond of, but it's not terrible.
On the whole, these two maps are actually much, much better than what I've come to expect from Blizzard. It seems like they're getting better at this. Kind of sucks that the TL Open map won't be in this season, but I guess the next one's only in like March.
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On December 15 2011 11:35 johnnywup wrote: wait, on arid, is the spawn point near the "base" near the rocks, or the one not near rocks? I think we can be half-glass full kind of people, and assume Blizzard isn't that stupid.
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Ugh jesus good luck FFE'ing on Arid, what a nightmare
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Personally I think there were better maps in that tournament, but hey, anything is good.
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Not sure how to feel about these maps yet, but I don't mind the removals.
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Hmm overall not that happy with the changes, I liked the two maps that they removed so sad they are gone, and the new 2 player one (Arid Plateau) looks really weird, looks tricky to FFE on it as well...
I do however like the 2nd new map, Entombed valley
On December 15 2011 11:34 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 11:32 Keldory wrote: They removed two of the only maps that you can FFE on. Thanks, Blizz, as if PvZ wasn't hard enough already. I didn't know FFE was an opening for PvP or PvT. He specifically mentioned PvZ, are you trying to be a smartass or something? I can't see what there is to be happy about when your opening for 1/3 of your games is gimped.
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I never played on abyssal caverns (except for one time, and I hated it). I actually kind of liked Nezarim Crypt, but Entombed Valley looks really nice.
I'm happy that metalopolis is still in the pool. I fucking looooove that map.
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Edit: Changed that, looks ok for now. Have to try them out
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On December 15 2011 11:36 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 11:35 johnnywup wrote: wait, on arid, is the spawn point near the "base" near the rocks, or the one not near rocks? I think we can be half-glass full kind of people, and assume Blizzard isn't that stupid.
Dude they used to have steppes of war on ladder.
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lol removing the 2 maps I have vetoed.. sick
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are we able to play on these somewhere or were they just released?
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sweet- i think everyone can agree that Abyssal Caverns was a terrible map. These maps look like it is actually possible to take a third!
cant wait for these- also wondering which community map is going to get picked
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On December 15 2011 11:38 Odal wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 11:36 WolfintheSheep wrote:On December 15 2011 11:35 johnnywup wrote: wait, on arid, is the spawn point near the "base" near the rocks, or the one not near rocks? I think we can be half-glass full kind of people, and assume Blizzard isn't that stupid. Dude they used to have steppes of war on ladder. And GSL used Steppes of War in their tournament.
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add a poll for like or dislike plz
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