On November 20 2011 23:43 Defacer wrote:
Naniwa didn't cheat. He did what a lot of great players in all sports do.
Naniwa didn't cheat. He did what a lot of great players in all sports do.
A lot of great players cheat, in all sports
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Kira__
Sweden2672 Posts
On November 20 2011 23:43 Defacer wrote: Naniwa didn't cheat. He did what a lot of great players in all sports do. A lot of great players cheat, in all sports | ||
Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On November 20 2011 23:43 Ballack wrote: Dunno if I've seen all the interviews, but what he said kind of made sense. Nestea is being treated as the best zerg in the world, and Naniwa disagrees and thinks there are better Korean zergs. Did he actually call Nestea bad? Didn't he just say Nestea ain't that good? He said that there are better ZvPers than NesTea, and no he didn't call him bad just that there are better _ZvPers_...... | ||
Hubris
United States113 Posts
On November 20 2011 23:36 H0i wrote: http://twitter.com/#!/CoLNaniwa Show nested quote + I must have formulated myself badly in the interviews I did not mean to call nestea bad. Or. An idiot watch next col iview. . . Show nested quote + He said he would smash me before the game so that's why I wanted to do something funny. Also sry @MLG I felt very pressured . Show nested quote + @eneKeyHunt @compLexityLive no pressure people twist what I say to what they want tho. I mean no disrespect to nestea There's a lot of drama around all this naniwa/nestea thing. Looks like naniwa isn't as bad as many people claim he is though. I lost some of my respect for him first but maybe it was just miscommunication. Discuss. + Show Spoiler + Mandatory "drama is killing esports" I don't believe this for one second. If he truly thought it was a miscommunication why didn't he clarify before the match to Nestea, who was already insulted? Why did he stack it with a BM thumbs down? Again, doesn't fly. | ||
dolvlo
United States99 Posts
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Arcanefrost
Belgium1257 Posts
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[17]Purple
United Kingdom3489 Posts
On November 20 2011 23:46 Hubris wrote: Show nested quote + On November 20 2011 23:36 H0i wrote: http://twitter.com/#!/CoLNaniwa I must have formulated myself badly in the interviews I did not mean to call nestea bad. Or. An idiot watch next col iview. . . He said he would smash me before the game so that's why I wanted to do something funny. Also sry @MLG I felt very pressured . @eneKeyHunt @compLexityLive no pressure people twist what I say to what they want tho. I mean no disrespect to nestea There's a lot of drama around all this naniwa/nestea thing. Looks like naniwa isn't as bad as many people claim he is though. I lost some of my respect for him first but maybe it was just miscommunication. Discuss. + Show Spoiler + Mandatory "drama is killing esports" I don't believe this for one second. If he truly thought it was a miscommunication why didn't he clarify before the match to Nestea, who was already insulted? Why did he stack it with a BM thumbs down? Again, doesn't fly. He does explain why he thumbs down NesTea in his tweets. | ||
Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On November 20 2011 23:45 Kira__ wrote: Show nested quote + On November 20 2011 23:43 Defacer wrote: Naniwa didn't cheat. He did what a lot of great players in all sports do. A lot of great players cheat, in all sports egggggssssactly. No different from Rodman talking smack or Garnett adding a little extra elbow on a pick. | ||
Hubris
United States113 Posts
On November 20 2011 23:47 [17]Purple wrote: Show nested quote + On November 20 2011 23:46 Hubris wrote: On November 20 2011 23:36 H0i wrote: http://twitter.com/#!/CoLNaniwa I must have formulated myself badly in the interviews I did not mean to call nestea bad. Or. An idiot watch next col iview. . . He said he would smash me before the game so that's why I wanted to do something funny. Also sry @MLG I felt very pressured . @eneKeyHunt @compLexityLive no pressure people twist what I say to what they want tho. I mean no disrespect to nestea There's a lot of drama around all this naniwa/nestea thing. Looks like naniwa isn't as bad as many people claim he is though. I lost some of my respect for him first but maybe it was just miscommunication. Discuss. + Show Spoiler + Mandatory "drama is killing esports" I don't believe this for one second. If he truly thought it was a miscommunication why didn't he clarify before the match to Nestea, who was already insulted? Why did he stack it with a BM thumbs down? Again, doesn't fly. He does explain why he thumbs down NesTea in his tweets. Why didn't he clarify before the match? I find it very convenient he's attempting to explain himself AFTER the clan got involved. I think he's just backtracking/damage control. | ||
tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On November 20 2011 23:40 ThyHate wrote: I thought this was about the "Naniwa cheated vs Nestea" drama ;( link http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/mivks/can_someone_explain_to_me_how_this_isnt_cheating/ This claim of cheating is retarded. The OP doesn't realize that build orders can be seen on the score screen anyway so there would be no particular advantage to watching the replay. | ||
Childplay
Canada263 Posts
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
On November 20 2011 23:40 Kira__ wrote: no response to the cheat accusations? Obiously cheating, but also MLGs fault for letting the situation happen. And it might not be the deciding factor. | ||
Azurues
Malaysia5612 Posts
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
On November 20 2011 23:49 Childplay wrote: well, i dont get the big deal of knowing the spawning positions, you dont get to see what your opponent is doing that early anyways If you send your scouting probe out at a specific time you will see lings coming your way if you spawn cross on Shakuras. This can give you significant information before you even reach the opponents base. If you don't know whether it's cross-spawns, you can miss the lings. The admins told Naniwa that the map was cross-only, so he adapted his play and scouting to it. | ||
tnud
Sweden2233 Posts
On November 20 2011 23:50 aebriol wrote: Obiously cheating, but also MLGs fault for letting the situation happen. And it might not be the deciding factor. It's not obviously cheating.. He went to the bathroom after being refused to go before the games started, viewing the replay gave him nothing that he didn't know from the score screen (and isn't against the rules), an MLG admin told him it was cross only therefore the pause and the confusion. I see nothing wrong. The "BM" thumbs down is seriously not anything you can even discuss.. Players do this all the time and it's fun and laughs, why is it different now? | ||
FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
I'm curious as to why people are saying watching the replay gives you no information. If that's true, why would he do it? | ||
voy
Poland348 Posts
Of coure Naniwa, the best mannered player. Same situation on Blizz Invitational in Poland. And presence of your coach in ur booth during the game.. He's acting like a celebrity, not like a esport player. Even Jaedong is more modest. | ||
empty.bottle
685 Posts
if that's the case, i dont think u could consider that cheating, nestea early pool was lame anyway. | ||
andis35
Latvia346 Posts
http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/competitions/25#event_54_conduct_rules | ||
SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On November 20 2011 23:55 andis35 wrote: can anybody please show me which point did Naniwa violated? http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/competitions/25#event_54_conduct_rules The part where it says you have to lose vs Nestea | ||
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