EPTNaniwa's twitter response to all the drama - Page 3
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KillAudio
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Arghnews
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Valashu
Netherlands561 Posts
Starting position is obviously not the only thing NaNiWa is seeing in that replay. He's watching NesTeas starting build order, completely unbeknown to NesTea! Considering he doesn't have any issues pulling up the replay, who even knows what he's doing while he's "going to the bathroom?" He could easily be talking to someone who's already been watching NesTea play for the first minute+ of the game. The fact that he pulled up the replay is horrid, I mean, why would he do this ? he saw the entire buildorder and didn't let Nestea know and has/could have gotten away with it. I know you can look at the score screen but maybe he clicked it away or something, this isn't something you usually plan upfront. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On November 20 2011 23:54 empty.bottle wrote: did he watched the replay from game 2? if that's the case, i dont think u could consider that cheating, nestea early pool was lame anyway. It's nothing that you can't learn from the score screen anyway. That's the thing all these hysterical people are not getting. | ||
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Stuv
Netherlands942 Posts
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tnud
Sweden2233 Posts
On November 20 2011 23:56 Valashu wrote: This is the part that makes me wonder: Starting position is obviously not the only thing NaNiWa is seeing in that replay. He's watching NesTeas starting build order, completely unbeknown to NesTea! Considering he doesn't have any issues pulling up the replay, who even knows what he's doing while he's "going to the bathroom?" He could easily be talking to someone who's already been watching NesTea play for the first minute+ of the game. The fact that he pulled up the replay is horrid, I mean, why would he do this ? he saw the entire buildorder and didn't let Nestea know and has/could have gotten away with it. The build order and the first minute is viewable without opening any replay, Nestea saw Nani's too.. Battle.net feature. Maybe he wanted to calm down a bit who knows, he did nothing wrong either way. | ||
pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
On November 20 2011 23:56 Valashu wrote: This is the part that makes me wonder: Starting position is obviously not the only thing NaNiWa is seeing in that replay. He's watching NesTeas starting build order, completely unbeknown to NesTea! Considering he doesn't have any issues pulling up the replay, who even knows what he's doing while he's "going to the bathroom?" He could easily be talking to someone who's already been watching NesTea play for the first minute+ of the game. The fact that he pulled up the replay is horrid, I mean, why would he do this ? he saw the entire buildorder and didn't let Nestea know and has/could have gotten away with it. You can watch the build order without watching the replay in the score screen All this drama is really going on my nerves-_- If there is really a problem it's not to us to decide if it should be punished or not, it's to MLG staff | ||
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
On November 20 2011 23:46 Hubris wrote: I don't believe this for one second. If he truly thought it was a miscommunication why didn't he clarify before the match to Nestea, who was already insulted? Why did he stack it with a BM thumbs down? Again, doesn't fly. Is it so terrible to say that he thinks other koreans are better ? Have you even watched the interview ? Watch Firebat heros cermony vs savior back in the days and youll see what it was like then. If thumbs down is too offensive Im not sure where were heading lol.. On November 20 2011 23:56 Valashu wrote: This is the part that makes me wonder: Starting position is obviously not the only thing NaNiWa is seeing in that replay. He's watching NesTeas starting build order, completely unbeknown to NesTea! Considering he doesn't have any issues pulling up the replay, who even knows what he's doing while he's "going to the bathroom?" He could easily be talking to someone who's already been watching NesTea play for the first minute+ of the game. The fact that he pulled up the replay is horrid, I mean, why would he do this ? he saw the entire buildorder and didn't let Nestea know and has/could have gotten away with it. I know you can look at the score screen but maybe he clicked it away or something, this isn't something you usually plan upfront. You realise this can be seen from the score screen as well ? Or are you just out to flame Naniwa like the rest of them ? To OP: can you PLEASE put the correct information in the OP. Post the link of the second post I made in this thread + the fact that the buildorder can be seen from the score screen. That would solve so many problems and slow the momentum of all the trolls running around. | ||
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Draz
United States44 Posts
On November 20 2011 23:40 ThyHate wrote: I thought this was about the "Naniwa cheated vs Nestea" drama ;( link http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/mivks/can_someone_explain_to_me_how_this_isnt_cheating/ Wow...Now thats some serious meta gaming going on there  Who knows what actually happened. But if according to that thread, he got to watch the replay, and see Nestea going hatch first, so he knew he could cannon, and giving him an edge early game, thats HUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEQuote from the Reddit thread "Edit 2: NaNiWa had nothing built before they paused again at 1:49. NesTea still didn't have a pool at this point either (he went hatch first.) Immediately after the break NaNiWa proceeds to cannon rush, and takes an early game advantage. Can someone else who was there confirm what happened during the delay?" | ||
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aruken
France348 Posts
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rblstr
Ireland398 Posts
TL killing ESPORTS? Joking of course, some of you guys love drama and overreacting too much. Naniwa didn't cheat by looking at a replay, doesn't matter if its a disqualified game or not, weather it gave him an edge or not, doesn't matter. Nani would have cannon rushed based on the scouting info anyway. If anything the "drama" hurt him because his cannon was way later. He beat Nestea in a fair standard length game. Give credit where credit is due. MVP and Nestea TWICE? Thats really impressive. And about the thumbs down thing... How can you call that BM? He was clearly doing it because Nestea was cocky before the game. He deserved it I would have done the same. It had zero malice, and the worst thing is you guys think its ok for IdrA to FLIP OFF other players? What the fuck sort out your double standards. Nani fighting, take the whole thing home (Gonna get smashed by HuK  ) | ||
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SpurvL
Sweden345 Posts
1, Nestea wins over Nani in Blizzcon 2, Naniwa wins in Global invitational over Nestea 3, Nestea Says he's gonna beat Naniwa the MLG-game 4, Naniwa says that MVP was harder to beat then Nestea and that Nesteas ZvP isnt as good as others 5, Naniwa wins game 1, loses game 2 6, Game 3 has trouble, Naniwa thinks that they play on an other Shakaurast then they do, wants a break to go to the bathroom, comes back and they keep playing it 7, Internet explodes and accuses Naniwa of cheating? I am pretty sure that I have missed something.. | ||
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
On November 20 2011 23:48 Defacer wrote:  egggggssssactly.No different from Rodman talking smack or Garnett adding a little extra elbow on a pick. What league are you talking about? Sounds like a game no one plays anymore. | ||
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soulist
United States932 Posts
On November 20 2011 23:45 Grettin wrote: Oh dear. Well, apparently (according to Reddit), Sundance is looking into it. I really don't think it was a big deal and people have generally not liked Naniwa in the past so when he does something like this people just find a way to bash on him and such. Hmm if its true that Naniwa's coach went into the booth to talk to him then yeah I would consider that cheating, but watching the replay and such is not cheating. It's at their disposal so if one player uses it and the other doesn't then its that players fault. | ||
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tnud
Sweden2233 Posts
On November 21 2011 00:01 soulist wrote: I really don't think it was a big deal and people have generally not liked Naniwa in the past so when he does something like this people just find a way to bash on him and such. Hmm if its true that Naniwa's coach went into the booth to talk to him then yeah I would consider that cheating, but watching the replay and such is not cheating. It's at their disposal so if one player uses it and the other doesn't then its that players fault. The coach was in there to inform him what Sundance had decided to do lol, Sundance himself joined the coach in the booth like a minute later. | ||
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rblstr
Ireland398 Posts
On November 21 2011 00:01 SpurvL wrote: 6, Game 3 has trouble, Naniwa thinks that they play on an other Shakaurast then they do, wants a break to go to the bathroom, comes back and they keep playing it 7, Internet explodes and accuses Naniwa of cheating? I am pretty sure that I have missed something.. 6.5 Nani looks at the replay of the game he left to use the bathroom. People think that its cheating because he can see Nestea's opening. | ||
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
On November 20 2011 23:56 tomatriedes wrote: It's nothing that you can't learn from the score screen anyway. That's the thing all these hysterical people are not getting. Is it allowed? If not it's cheating. And you can see building positions and scouting pattern on overlords which is important for cannon rushing. You aren't getting it. | ||
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empty.bottle
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sekritzzz
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Dundron2000
Sweden1140 Posts
On November 20 2011 23:36 H0i wrote: http://twitter.com/#!/CoLNaniwa There's a lot of drama around all this naniwa/nestea thing. Looks like naniwa isn't as bad as many people claim he is though. I lost some of my respect for him first but maybe it was just miscommunication. Discuss. + Show Spoiler + Mandatory "drama is killing esports" i dont like how the internet has made apologizing so easy.. takes 30 seconds for him to absolve himself from some pretty childish behaviour, and judging by the time it took for it to get up on twitter i wouldnt be suprised if complexity more or less made him do it. if hes sorry that he has been misunderstood and meant no disrespect to nestea id rather read about a tweet that he told nestea so. | ||
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