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2. No communication between Players and Spectators during a Match.
5. No excessive taunting or celebration by Coaches or Players. Excessive taunting or celebration includes, but is not limited to, post-Match taunting or celebration directed at or referencing an opposing Player(s) and/or Coach. Post-Match interactions between opposing Players and Coaches must be limited to acts of sportsmanship.
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Dear god, more drama.
What naniwa did could indeed be qualified as cheating. Once a game starts, you should not be allowed to exit your booth AND people shouldnt be allowed to enter the booth. It was partly MLG's fault for not letting naniwa go to the bathroom before the game, but who knows what naniwa truly did when he was "going to the bathroom"? He could have been talking to his team mates or whatever, asking them what NesTeas build order is. If that wasn't enough to convince you hes cheating (leaving the booth in the middle of a game) then maybe when his coach entered. His coach entered, again, in the middle of the game. He could have said anything to Naniwa, like if NesTea was going hatch first or what the spawns were or whatever.
Yeah I dont know, naniwa is kind of a sketchy character and, IMO, a bit dickish.
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On November 21 2011 00:03 tnud wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 00:01 soulist wrote:On November 20 2011 23:45 Grettin wrote:Oh dear. Well, apparently (according to Reddit), Sundance is looking into it. I really don't think it was a big deal and people have generally not liked Naniwa in the past so when he does something like this people just find a way to bash on him and such. Hmm if its true that Naniwa's coach went into the booth to talk to him then yeah I would consider that cheating, but watching the replay and such is not cheating. It's at their disposal so if one player uses it and the other doesn't then its that players fault. The coach was in there to inform him what Sundance had decided to do lol, Sundance himself joined the coach in the booth like a minute later.
Oh well then thats fine. No one should be making a deal about it then.
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On November 21 2011 00:03 rblstr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 00:01 SpurvL wrote:
6, Game 3 has trouble, Naniwa thinks that they play on an other Shakaurast then they do, wants a break to go to the bathroom, comes back and they keep playing it
7, Internet explodes and accuses Naniwa of cheating?
I am pretty sure that I have missed something.. 6.5 Nani looks at the replay of the game he left to use the bathroom. People think that its cheating because he can see Nestea's opening.
This is alleged by some random kid on reddit, there is no evidence of this, and the people at MLG are investigating it.
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Presumably: 2. No verbal abuse of Referees and other tournament officials. Verbal abuse of a Referee or other tournament official includes, but is not limited to, the use of vulgar language directed at a Referee or other tournament official, the use of insulting words or gestures directed at a Referee or other tournament official, and excessive argument with a Referee or other tournament official resulting in the delay of a Match.
Basically, the ONLY questionable point here is whether or not an admin really did tell Naniwa that the map was cross positions only, or if he just assumed it based on his replay. Presumably, Naniwa and/or Sundance will clarify that soon.
Obviously, though, this whole set of games did not at all go smoothly. Unfortunate for everyone involved, honestly,
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Oh please, If you think Naniwa apologised on his own accord, you are seriously wrong. This is just blatant PR by Team Complexity to try and make everyone forget about it. The fact is, it did happen, MLG are looking into it, and I have faith in them to make the right decision. It's getting to the point where the players feel like they can do what they want because of the lack of repercussions.
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On November 21 2011 00:03 aebriol wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 23:56 tomatriedes wrote:On November 20 2011 23:54 empty.bottle wrote:
did he watched the replay from game 2?
if that's the case, i dont think u could consider that cheating, nestea early pool was lame anyway. It's nothing that you can't learn from the score screen anyway. That's the thing all these hysterical people are not getting. Is it allowed? If not it's cheating. And you can see building positions and scouting pattern on overlords which is important for cannon rushing. You aren't getting it.
AFAIK its not cheating to watch the rep of a previous game, disqualified or not.
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Really petty controversy. Amazing games by Nani, keep rocking hard. Win over MVP, Nestea, and Nestea? Are you kidding me? TL, you should be going apeshit.
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On November 21 2011 00:03 swordboy wrote:2. No communication between Players and Spectators during a Match. 5. No excessive taunting or celebration by Coaches or Players. Excessive taunting or celebration includes, but is not limited to, post-Match taunting or celebration directed at or referencing an opposing Player(s) and/or Coach. Post-Match interactions between opposing Players and Coaches must be limited to acts of sportsmanship.
2. That wasn't during a match. The rule means when the game is in progress, like if someone in the audience was putting game information on a sign etc.
5. You think that was excessive...?
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On November 21 2011 00:03 swordboy wrote:2. No communication between Players and Spectators during a Match. 5. No excessive taunting or celebration by Coaches or Players. Excessive taunting or celebration includes, but is not limited to, post-Match taunting or celebration directed at or referencing an opposing Player(s) and/or Coach. Post-Match interactions between opposing Players and Coaches must be limited to acts of sportsmanship.
You know very well that point 2 is very loosely enforced and that what MC did against MVP was far "worse" then a simple thumbs down. People are hating on naniwa for no reason :/
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On November 21 2011 00:03 rblstr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 00:01 SpurvL wrote:
6, Game 3 has trouble, Naniwa thinks that they play on an other Shakaurast then they do, wants a break to go to the bathroom, comes back and they keep playing it
7, Internet explodes and accuses Naniwa of cheating?
I am pretty sure that I have missed something.. 6.5 Nani looks at the replay of the game he left to use the bathroom. People think that its cheating because he can see Nestea's opening.
6.25 Nani sees the NesTea's opening from the score screen...
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i highly doubt an admin told him that shakuras was cross positions only
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On November 21 2011 00:04 dolvlo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 00:03 rblstr wrote:On November 21 2011 00:01 SpurvL wrote:
6, Game 3 has trouble, Naniwa thinks that they play on an other Shakaurast then they do, wants a break to go to the bathroom, comes back and they keep playing it
7, Internet explodes and accuses Naniwa of cheating?
I am pretty sure that I have missed something.. 6.5 Nani looks at the replay of the game he left to use the bathroom. People think that its cheating because he can see Nestea's opening. This is alleged by some random kid on reddit, there is no evidence of this, and the people at MLG are investigating it.
I know i don't think he was cheating i was just telling him what all the drama was about 
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It's a lot more then just one incident that caused the huge uproar on the behavior of Naniwa.
His personality is what people are attacking, if it was MC or huk doing the thumbs down, it would be entertainment because we KNOW that MC and Huk are actually really good mannered. Naniwa on the other hand was hated on ladder for his BM in the early days. He also seems like a person that would prefer sticking to himself, so these types of people aren't very well liked.
The thumbs down and idiot comments were blown out of proportion, but this might give him time or awareness to fix up his attitude towards others.
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Oh look, another Drama-Thread inspired from Reddit. <Yawn>
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On November 21 2011 00:03 swordboy wrote:2. No communication between Players and Spectators during a Match. 5. No excessive taunting or celebration by Coaches or Players. Excessive taunting or celebration includes, but is not limited to, post-Match taunting or celebration directed at or referencing an opposing Player(s) and/or Coach. Post-Match interactions between opposing Players and Coaches must be limited to acts of sportsmanship.
2. Match was paused.
5. Thumbs down is excessive taunting or celebration? LOL Have you seen any of MC's celebrations?
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On November 21 2011 00:03 swordboy wrote:2. No communication between Players and Spectators during a Match. 5. No excessive taunting or celebration by Coaches or Players. Excessive taunting or celebration includes, but is not limited to, post-Match taunting or celebration directed at or referencing an opposing Player(s) and/or Coach. Post-Match interactions between opposing Players and Coaches must be limited to acts of sportsmanship.
So then MCs celebration with the costume should be considered taunting because if I just lost to someone and they went on stage and did that celebration I would be pissed. The guy was happy, get over it. I would be happy too if Nestea said he would beat me then I proved him wrong.
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On November 21 2011 00:05 rblstr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 00:04 dolvlo wrote:On November 21 2011 00:03 rblstr wrote:On November 21 2011 00:01 SpurvL wrote:
6, Game 3 has trouble, Naniwa thinks that they play on an other Shakaurast then they do, wants a break to go to the bathroom, comes back and they keep playing it
7, Internet explodes and accuses Naniwa of cheating?
I am pretty sure that I have missed something.. 6.5 Nani looks at the replay of the game he left to use the bathroom. People think that its cheating because he can see Nestea's opening. This is alleged by some random kid on reddit, there is no evidence of this, and the people at MLG are investigating it. I know i don't think he was cheating i was just telling him what all the drama was about
That's a huge story for a "random kid" to just make up out of the blue. There is obvious truth to it.
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On November 21 2011 00:01 soulist wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 23:45 Grettin wrote:Oh dear. Well, apparently (according to Reddit), Sundance is looking into it. I really don't think it was a big deal and people have generally not liked Naniwa in the past so when he does something like this people just find a way to bash on him and such. Hmm if its true that Naniwa's coach went into the booth to talk to him then yeah I would consider that cheating, but watching the replay and such is not cheating. It's at their disposal so if one player uses it and the other doesn't then its that players fault.
From what I leanred, it wasn't the coach (col doesn't even have a coach from what I know) but the manager or something like that who was sent by MLG for some reasons (Nani didn't ask for him apparently) and there was a referee with them.
But nothing of this come from 100% reliable source, but it looks right.
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On November 21 2011 00:05 tnud wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2011 00:03 swordboy wrote:2. No communication between Players and Spectators during a Match. 5. No excessive taunting or celebration by Coaches or Players. Excessive taunting or celebration includes, but is not limited to, post-Match taunting or celebration directed at or referencing an opposing Player(s) and/or Coach. Post-Match interactions between opposing Players and Coaches must be limited to acts of sportsmanship. You know very well that point 2 is very loosely enforced and that what MC did against MVP was far "worse" then a simple thumbs down. People are hating on naniwa for no reason :/
Spectators usually don't enter the booths during a paused game, also MC didnt call MVP an idiot after a match.
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