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Zolis
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia29 Posts
November 20 2011 21:17 GMT
#401
MC is a non factor... judging by this series...
blizzind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States642 Posts
November 20 2011 21:20 GMT
#402
what i think naniwa meant was that nestea made an idiot move against him. not that he's an idiot.
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 21:25:51
November 20 2011 21:20 GMT
#403
On November 21 2011 06:09 FlamingForce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 06:05 Assirra wrote:
On November 21 2011 06:02 Zolis wrote:
Does MLG Providence give a code s spot? If so Naniwa already has it finishing it at least top3 so the rivalry continues!!

It only gives 1spot tough so if someone else gets higher without a code S spot he doesn't get it.
He probably needs at least a final spot, if not winning the whole thing.


DRG is code S, Leenock is Code S, if MvP beats MC then NaNi gets it I believe.

Could be wrong tho don't qoute me on this


The whole format of the GSL has changed though... the only people guaranteed to retain Code S are the guys in the ro8, which means just Leenock and MVP. DRG and MC have a good chance at requalifying for Code S in the up and down matches though. Edit: Also, I forgot HuK will be in the up and down matches as well.

Also, there's TWO code S seeds. But I have no idea where they're coming from. But there's only two foreigner code A seeds where there used to be three. So maybe all four of the seeds are still coming from MLG. I'm not too sure about that.
For Aiur???
ilovelings
Profile Joined January 2011
Argentina776 Posts
November 20 2011 21:48 GMT
#404
I have done worse things in tourneys.
People is diying.
Puppet_M
Profile Joined September 2011
Finland12 Posts
November 20 2011 21:58 GMT
#405
gj naniwa you are legend Well played indd
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
November 20 2011 22:08 GMT
#406
Whoa this is disgusting. Even there is mis-communication between naniwa and mlg staff, he still shouldn't allow to look at build order or even the replay at all. Such info wouldn't even be available to him in the first place even the map is in cross position. He is just pissed that he can't do his build and trying to make his action justified, which it isn't.
Leenock the Punisher
LiaT
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden58 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 22:16:56
November 20 2011 22:14 GMT
#407
On November 21 2011 07:08 furymonkey wrote:
Whoa this is disgusting. Even there is mis-communication between naniwa and mlg staff, he still shouldn't allow to look at build order or even the replay at all. Such info wouldn't even be available to him in the first place even the map is in cross position. He is just pissed that he can't do his build and trying to make his action justified, which it isn't.

When is people gonna get the following:
You can see the build order in the score screen. It doesn't matter if Naniwa watched the replay.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=287315
Keula
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany157 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 22:16:32
November 20 2011 22:14 GMT
#408
Sundance response according to reddit:

1.
He made a mistake then claimed it was the ref.Hhe picked before our admin even went into the booth. Some maps have crosses some do not. He chose one thinking that it was a cross position map when it wasn't. Not a big deal in the end but annoying none the less.
2.
Was his mistake. Not anyone else's.
3.
He chose the wrong map then freaked. Delayed the broadcast and lashed out. It's not our job to make sure he knows which maps have crosses and which do not. He also chose before the admin went in to talk to him. Onward and upward...
EG fan
MK4512
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada938 Posts
November 20 2011 22:17 GMT
#409
So...

In the end, who is worse? Naniwa calling Nestea an "idiot", or the IM coach calling Naniwa a 'dirty asshole' 'fucker' etc.
Chill: "Please let us know when you will be streaming yourself eating a hat so I can put it on the calendar. Thanks."
Ghostpvp
Profile Joined October 2010
United States462 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 22:18:26
November 20 2011 22:18 GMT
#410
Wrong thread @@
Move Zig
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
November 20 2011 22:22 GMT
#411
On November 21 2011 07:17 MK4512 wrote:
So...

In the end, who is worse? Naniwa calling Nestea an "idiot", or the IM coach calling Naniwa a 'dirty asshole' 'fucker' etc.

Have i missed something?
Where does the IM coach calls Naniwa that?
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
November 20 2011 22:24 GMT
#412
On November 21 2011 07:14 LiaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 07:08 furymonkey wrote:
Whoa this is disgusting. Even there is mis-communication between naniwa and mlg staff, he still shouldn't allow to look at build order or even the replay at all. Such info wouldn't even be available to him in the first place even the map is in cross position. He is just pissed that he can't do his build and trying to make his action justified, which it isn't.

When is people gonna get the following:
You can see the build order in the score screen. It doesn't matter if Naniwa watched the replay.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=287315


You don't get it, just because you could see the build order doesn't meant players should, and just because you can see it, doesn't meant you should go even further by checking replay. The match shouldn't even restarted in the first place, that means players wouldn't able to access these info under normal circumstance. This is essentially cheating meta game.
Leenock the Punisher
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
November 20 2011 22:26 GMT
#413
On November 21 2011 07:24 furymonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 07:14 LiaT wrote:
On November 21 2011 07:08 furymonkey wrote:
Whoa this is disgusting. Even there is mis-communication between naniwa and mlg staff, he still shouldn't allow to look at build order or even the replay at all. Such info wouldn't even be available to him in the first place even the map is in cross position. He is just pissed that he can't do his build and trying to make his action justified, which it isn't.

When is people gonna get the following:
You can see the build order in the score screen. It doesn't matter if Naniwa watched the replay.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=287315


You don't get it, just because you could see the build order doesn't meant players should, and just because you can see it, doesn't meant you should go even further by checking replay. The match shouldn't even restarted in the first place, that means players wouldn't able to access these info under normal circumstance. This is essentially cheating meta game.


Wow you should run MLG man!
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
November 20 2011 22:28 GMT
#414
On November 21 2011 07:24 furymonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 07:14 LiaT wrote:
On November 21 2011 07:08 furymonkey wrote:
Whoa this is disgusting. Even there is mis-communication between naniwa and mlg staff, he still shouldn't allow to look at build order or even the replay at all. Such info wouldn't even be available to him in the first place even the map is in cross position. He is just pissed that he can't do his build and trying to make his action justified, which it isn't.

When is people gonna get the following:
You can see the build order in the score screen. It doesn't matter if Naniwa watched the replay.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=287315


You don't get it, just because you could see the build order doesn't meant players should, and just because you can see it, doesn't meant you should go even further by checking replay. The match shouldn't even restarted in the first place, that means players wouldn't able to access these info under normal circumstance. This is essentially cheating meta game.


MLG ruled and said that seeing the build order was not a violation of the rules and that seeing the replay didn't convey any additional information.

They're going to revisit the rules and probably make some new ones but Naniwa did not cheat.

And people need to cut him some slack. He was incredibly ramped up and focused on his play. Honestly, I think the interviewer that took the statement is rather silly for cherry picking a time when he'd probably make the least sense.
#2throwed
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7291 Posts
November 20 2011 22:28 GMT
#415
On November 21 2011 04:57 Fym wrote:
Show nested quote +
- Naniwa was not allowed to go use the washroom before the game because the admins told him he couldn't go. How is that fair for Naniwa?


it's Live TV....thinking that he would actually be allowed a break is retarded


If I was them id tell them I was going and to try to DQ me and see what happens =)

AFAIK in OSL/MSL finals, players routinely go to use the restroom, thats why there are breaks between games.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Legace
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 22:31:16
November 20 2011 22:28 GMT
#416
On November 21 2011 07:17 MK4512 wrote:
So...

In the end, who is worse? Naniwa calling Nestea an "idiot", or the IM coach calling Naniwa a 'dirty asshole' 'fucker' etc.


Wow, that's so classy if true.

On November 21 2011 07:14 Keula wrote:
Sundance response according to reddit:

1.
He made a mistake then claimed it was the ref.Hhe picked before our admin even went into the booth. Some maps have crosses some do not. He chose one thinking that it was a cross position map when it wasn't. Not a big deal in the end but annoying none the less.
2.
Was his mistake. Not anyone else's.
3.
He chose the wrong map then freaked. Delayed the broadcast and lashed out. It's not our job to make sure he knows which maps have crosses and which do not. He also chose before the admin went in to talk to him. Onward and upward...


Hypothetically, if Naniwa is right we know MLG, or the admin rather, would never man up and admit it because of the shitstorm this created.

Now when both MLG and Naniwa had their damage control, I think this matter is solved.
Keula
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany157 Posts
November 20 2011 22:28 GMT
#417
On November 21 2011 07:26 Alpino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 07:24 furymonkey wrote:
On November 21 2011 07:14 LiaT wrote:
On November 21 2011 07:08 furymonkey wrote:
Whoa this is disgusting. Even there is mis-communication between naniwa and mlg staff, he still shouldn't allow to look at build order or even the replay at all. Such info wouldn't even be available to him in the first place even the map is in cross position. He is just pissed that he can't do his build and trying to make his action justified, which it isn't.

When is people gonna get the following:
You can see the build order in the score screen. It doesn't matter if Naniwa watched the replay.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=287315


You don't get it, just because you could see the build order doesn't meant players should, and just because you can see it, doesn't meant you should go even further by checking replay. The match shouldn't even restarted in the first place, that means players wouldn't able to access these info under normal circumstance. This is essentially cheating meta game.


Wow you should run MLG man!


well, he is kinda right though. Restarting a game can totally change the outcome / course of the game even though the build orders remain the same
EG fan
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
November 20 2011 22:29 GMT
#418
On November 21 2011 07:26 Alpino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 07:24 furymonkey wrote:
On November 21 2011 07:14 LiaT wrote:
On November 21 2011 07:08 furymonkey wrote:
Whoa this is disgusting. Even there is mis-communication between naniwa and mlg staff, he still shouldn't allow to look at build order or even the replay at all. Such info wouldn't even be available to him in the first place even the map is in cross position. He is just pissed that he can't do his build and trying to make his action justified, which it isn't.

When is people gonna get the following:
You can see the build order in the score screen. It doesn't matter if Naniwa watched the replay.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=287315


You don't get it, just because you could see the build order doesn't meant players should, and just because you can see it, doesn't meant you should go even further by checking replay. The match shouldn't even restarted in the first place, that means players wouldn't able to access these info under normal circumstance. This is essentially cheating meta game.


Wow you should run MLG man!


MLG is still relatively new in this area, even though they are still more experienced than most of the tournaments out there. It's good thing that MLG and their staffs will learn heaps from this event.
Leenock the Punisher
Keula
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany157 Posts
November 20 2011 22:31 GMT
#419
The reaction of Tastosis was the thing made me thinking about the situation the most. Even they were confused / shocked of what was going on as you could clearly see =)
EG fan
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
November 20 2011 22:31 GMT
#420
I also believe Slasher tweeted that Nestea and Nani were talking today, and they were on good terms and everything.
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