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On September 03 2011 21:10 snailz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 20:48 Consolidate wrote:On September 03 2011 18:54 snailz wrote:
she's a girl, a pretty one at that, so she makes a lot of people uncomfortable. when they realize how uncomfortable they, they rage. because when a pretty girl laughs and/or makes fun of them in real life, they can't really rage, can they? but on the internets... /insert random meme
. Please stop. That's some embarrassingly twisted thinking. no it's not when you think about it... everybody knows 5/6 of TL forumers are socially handicapped teenagers who don't know how to act around women, so they take their frustrations out on the internets, post short and unnecesarry things, troll, spam, flame - and will get bored with starcraft in couple of months. while the hate they generate will remain in the society. point is, god forbid we have a beautiful and smart female in the spotlight of sc2 community, right? it's not like we're trying to go mainstream, right? kelly, whatever she may have done, didn't deserve this kind of bashing. nobody can deny its in large thanks to her gender. male casters that are roughly same caliber as her get ignored, but for whatever reason with her it's "let's stop that bitch" it's pathetic. don't fear the vagina boys, learn to embrace it 
That is an exceedingly detailed, yet sophomoric level of psychoanalysis.
The only explanation is that you are projecting.
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On September 03 2011 21:21 Consolidate wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 21:10 snailz wrote:On September 03 2011 20:48 Consolidate wrote:On September 03 2011 18:54 snailz wrote:
she's a girl, a pretty one at that, so she makes a lot of people uncomfortable. when they realize how uncomfortable they, they rage. because when a pretty girl laughs and/or makes fun of them in real life, they can't really rage, can they? but on the internets... /insert random meme
. Please stop. That's some embarrassingly twisted thinking. no it's not when you think about it... everybody knows 5/6 of TL forumers are socially handicapped teenagers who don't know how to act around women, so they take their frustrations out on the internets, post short and unnecesarry things, troll, spam, flame - and will get bored with starcraft in couple of months. while the hate they generate will remain in the society. point is, god forbid we have a beautiful and smart female in the spotlight of sc2 community, right? it's not like we're trying to go mainstream, right? kelly, whatever she may have done, didn't deserve this kind of bashing. nobody can deny its in large thanks to her gender. male casters that are roughly same caliber as her get ignored, but for whatever reason with her it's "let's stop that bitch" it's pathetic. don't fear the vagina boys, learn to embrace it That is an exceedingly detailed, yet sophomoric level of psychoanalysis. The only explanation is that you are projecting.
lol @ trying to make this personal. so you're one of those people i just criticized, time for me to exit this "discussion".
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On September 03 2011 21:45 snailz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 21:21 Consolidate wrote:On September 03 2011 21:10 snailz wrote:On September 03 2011 20:48 Consolidate wrote:On September 03 2011 18:54 snailz wrote:
she's a girl, a pretty one at that, so she makes a lot of people uncomfortable. when they realize how uncomfortable they, they rage. because when a pretty girl laughs and/or makes fun of them in real life, they can't really rage, can they? but on the internets... /insert random meme
. Please stop. That's some embarrassingly twisted thinking. no it's not when you think about it... everybody knows 5/6 of TL forumers are socially handicapped teenagers who don't know how to act around women, so they take their frustrations out on the internets, post short and unnecesarry things, troll, spam, flame - and will get bored with starcraft in couple of months. while the hate they generate will remain in the society. point is, god forbid we have a beautiful and smart female in the spotlight of sc2 community, right? it's not like we're trying to go mainstream, right? kelly, whatever she may have done, didn't deserve this kind of bashing. nobody can deny its in large thanks to her gender. male casters that are roughly same caliber as her get ignored, but for whatever reason with her it's "let's stop that bitch" it's pathetic. don't fear the vagina boys, learn to embrace it That is an exceedingly detailed, yet sophomoric level of psychoanalysis. The only explanation is that you are projecting. lol @ trying to make this personal. so you're one of those people i just criticized, time for me to exit this "discussion".
What a train-wreck...
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On September 03 2011 21:10 snailz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 20:48 Consolidate wrote:On September 03 2011 18:54 snailz wrote:
she's a girl, a pretty one at that, so she makes a lot of people uncomfortable. when they realize how uncomfortable they, they rage. because when a pretty girl laughs and/or makes fun of them in real life, they can't really rage, can they? but on the internets... /insert random meme
. Please stop. That's some embarrassingly twisted thinking. no it's not when you think about it... everybody knows 5/6 of TL forumers are socially handicapped teenagers who don't know how to act around women, so they take their frustrations out on the internets, post short and unnecesarry things, troll, spam, flame - and will get bored with starcraft in couple of months. while the hate they generate will remain in the society. point is, god forbid we have a beautiful and smart female in the spotlight of sc2 community, right? it's not like we're trying to go mainstream, right? kelly, whatever she may have done, didn't deserve this kind of bashing. nobody can deny its in large thanks to her gender. male casters that are roughly same caliber as her get ignored, but for whatever reason with her it's "let's stop that bitch" it's pathetic. don't fear the vagina boys, learn to embrace it
Lol really 5/6 of TL'ers? I think you have mistaken TL to another forum. Ironic that you bash on the community while trying to defend Kelly from the bashers. Real nice.
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On September 03 2011 21:10 snailz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 20:48 Consolidate wrote:On September 03 2011 18:54 snailz wrote:
she's a girl, a pretty one at that, so she makes a lot of people uncomfortable. when they realize how uncomfortable they, they rage. because when a pretty girl laughs and/or makes fun of them in real life, they can't really rage, can they? but on the internets... /insert random meme
. Please stop. That's some embarrassingly twisted thinking. no it's not when you think about it... everybody knows 5/6 of TL forumers are socially handicapped teenagers who don't know how to act around women, so they take their frustrations out on the internets, post short and unnecesarry things, troll, spam, flame - and will get bored with starcraft in couple of months. while the hate they generate will remain in the society. point is, god forbid we have a beautiful and smart female in the spotlight of sc2 community, right? it's not like we're trying to go mainstream, right? kelly, whatever she may have done, didn't deserve this kind of bashing. nobody can deny its in large thanks to her gender. male casters that are roughly same caliber as her get ignored, but for whatever reason with her it's "let's stop that bitch" it's pathetic. don't fear the vagina boys, learn to embrace it
What's up with the guy insulting the entire collective of TL and stereotyping "5/6" TL'ers as anti-social bastards? lol...
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On September 03 2011 18:54 snailz wrote:
she's a girl, a pretty one at that, so she makes a lot of people uncomfortable. when they realize how uncomfortable they, they rage. because when a pretty girl laughs and/or makes fun of them in real life, they can't really rage, can they? but on the internets... /insert random meme
so, kelly. as a caster, she's not the best, but you have people bashing every caster out there, so it doesnt really matter how good you are. what it comes down to is if Kelly is absolutely unskilled? answer is no. people make her out to be like spore-crawler girl from MLG, asking questions like "is this your first NASL". its ridiculous.
support geek females. and while you're at it learn to accept female company. your social awkwardness shouldnt make someone's life harder than it already is, just for the sake of it. next time when u get the urge to insult that pretty girl that reminds you who you really are in real life, go post in threads like "sex=OP in the society?".
p.s. DJWheat cant control his kid half of the time on his professional shows (meaning he gets moneys from the viewership) like Live on Three, drinks beer, swears a lot, laughs like a girl, etc. so why is he questioning her professionalism so harshly? only difference is he can then say "esports, without the fluff" and get away with it all, and she or any other less popular caster can't. so its not fair fight from the get go. and yes i know he's been into esports for a decade or so, but his sc2 cast are no more knowledgable than kellys, to be honest. only more farmiliar english. not all of the casters can be held up to Tastosis/Day9 standards, people.
Male, Female, Transexual, Alien, Yogi Bear, Kangaroo, Chipmunk, or even Dolphins, if you do a great job casting and are completely professional about it, these threads would never show up. And if they did, there wouldn't be enough backing by one person's account within the community to warrant the accused party's response.
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On September 03 2011 14:52 nBdy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 14:31 Whitewing wrote:On September 03 2011 14:28 nBdy wrote:On September 03 2011 05:58 kellymilkies wrote:
Hey guys, just want to clear something up. I listened to the VOD this morning but did not think much of it because it sounded like just another hate "thread" / "talk".
This isn't the first time Tobi has attacked me online so I did not want to spend the day trying to fight something that I kind of dismissed.
I also saw that nirvana wrote something in my TL fanclub thread as well and I can confirm that. Nirvana is an IRL friend of glade and I that I speak to a lot.
I want to apologise to my fans / supporters who had to go through thinking if it was true or not and the fact that I took quite a long time to reply.
Quote Denzil "Now this story, did it happen recently? Does it have much legitimacy? Did it happen a long time ago? Is it relevant to now?"
Answer to that is No, no, no, no and no.
Firstly, regarding SMM, that was a long time ago and I do apologise that you have to look at that part of me for that one game. Truth was, look at the reddit replies after someone comes out and said something to satisfy himself, his ego, his pride. You could imagine when I was casting SMM, I was still a "green horn" (newbie). I read comments similar to the ones on reddit right now at a LIVE event when I should not have, and I got emotionally distraught and thus left to go to the bathroom to... shed a tear.
I learned from that and handled what I need to for GSL much better than SMM. It was a great experience, I worked with many more shout casters along the way from then till now, and each and one of them has taught me something. Some more valuable than others obviously.
Secondly, regarding moonglade and I: honestly it's my own personal relationship and I don't understand why this had to be brought up when he himself is trying to attack or question my professionalism.
We did have some issues before Korea but it was just me going through some personal issues at home and was stressed out, but it was resolved within probably 2 days of having an argument.
I hope people can understand that moonglade is a great guy and we are in a normal relationship where people fight all the time, and even more so being that we are kind of in our first year of our relationship. Please do not harrass him nor give him any trouble as he is in the midst of preparing for Blizzcon qualifiers for SEA. Thank you very much for your kind understanding.
As for Huk, I don't even know why he brought that up. I think people who have met me in real life, even fans that met me in Gamescom got a hug from me. Chris and I have been friends for quite a while now and he's a great guy. I have already apologised to Chris for any inconvinience that has be caused because of this!
Also, for other various rumors that does not make sense, all I can say is people will always be people. They love to gossip and I don't blame them. But sometimes there is a line you don't cross. Like creating lies or fabricating stories for the sake of attention. I'm a human being. I'm real. I'm not just something that you use for your amusement. I laugh, I breathe, I cry, I feel just like everyone of you.
I know I took a while to reply but I hope this clear things up a little bit and I apologise to my fans, friends, and anyone that has been distrubed, harrassed, or had doubts about me this few days. I'm sorry and please stay with me as I work through this.
Kelly. Never before have I seen a post that dodged accusations and pulled the conversation into a completely different direction more. How can you possibly justify leaving a cast in the middle to "go to the bathroom" because people were upset with you for not even doing your job? You were being yelled at by the viewers for not even focusing on the cast and doing your own thing which is unprofessional and simply bad. Then to leave because people were pointing out your unprofessionalism isn't winning you any points. Also what kind of reasoning is that to justify what happened with huk? You seriously just said you enjoy hugging people to explain why you hugged huk in his booth. I'm calling BS on that simply because it's obvious you went well out of your way to do that. You even made a point to go out of your way to do that. Are you seriously going to tell me you took the effort to get up and walk into his booth just to hug him? Why couldn't you hug him after the game or when you hung out with him since you're apparently such good friends. Please, instead of trying to turn this around and shrug it off, admit your mistakes and try to better yourself because of them. You're just digging a deep hole even deeper. Also it seemed from that VOD those "rumors" were anything but fabricated. Everyone in that VOD, even the guy who was ready to defend you, all seemed to agree with what was being said. I saw nodding heads and apparently there's a story that has yet to be told and I don't want to even begin to imagine what that entails. So I'll end with saying good luck and I hope you learned something from all of this. If not, then you deserve anything that might come of this. I don't get it, how can you be this dumb after so many people have been banned for the same behavior? You do not go into somebodies fan club and antagonize them. If you are not a fan, stay out. You can say what you want to somewhere else, not here. Either act like a fan, or get lost. I have 4 total posts, this one being my 5th, do you really think my life will stop if and when I get banned? Her actions inspired me to voice my opinion. Also I don't agree with being able to hide behind the people who you already know support you and avoid confronting those who don't. It's a waste of a post posting in a place that already has your back. Why can't she just make an open thread to apologies if that's what you she really wants? I feel like she's seeking sympathy. It's kinda like a politician making an argument to counter what his opponent is saying but only presenting that argument to his campaign team. It's pointless and not changing any ones opinions User was temp banned for this post.
On September 03 2011 17:56 DwD wrote:
I mean people can't even comment on her reply since this is her fanclub. The mods are going crazy in here so of course you only get people who agree with her. Just look back a few pages so many people warned/banned for saying something negative.
Meh I don't buy that excuse at all. You need to take speech classes if you want to do this seriously, being a caster and all. All you really did in your statement were confirming everything was true. You just don't do that to fans who show up to an event to watch some games you could've said anything to your co-caster but you just left like a brat. I really have nothing against you and what you do on your personal time isn't anyone elses business. I liked the few times I saw you cast Code A but I saw that "holy shit" or whatever interview and I couldn't understand anything, that can't happened when you are the one who are supposed to bring content to the viewers.
(watch me get warned/banned lol)
User was temp banned for this post.
Wow, reading these replies and the justification for them has made me lose about 1,750 brain cells.
Mmmmm.... let's see:
1. This is a fucking fan thread. Even Plexa made a reply in here asking people to treat it as such, and not use it as a ground to bash people.
2. Seeking sympathy? Let's say hypothetically you were in the same situation. Would you like it if people were mindlessly bashing your casting and professionalism in your TL fan thread?
3. She admitted the mistake in the MOBA event, and she said she tried to improve for more recent events like Gamescom and GSL.
4. (facepalm) It's a hug
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On September 03 2011 21:58 SEA_GenesiS wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 21:10 snailz wrote:On September 03 2011 20:48 Consolidate wrote:On September 03 2011 18:54 snailz wrote:
she's a girl, a pretty one at that, so she makes a lot of people uncomfortable. when they realize how uncomfortable they, they rage. because when a pretty girl laughs and/or makes fun of them in real life, they can't really rage, can they? but on the internets... /insert random meme
. Please stop. That's some embarrassingly twisted thinking. no it's not when you think about it... everybody knows 5/6 of TL forumers are socially handicapped teenagers who don't know how to act around women, so they take their frustrations out on the internets, post short and unnecesarry things, troll, spam, flame - and will get bored with starcraft in couple of months. while the hate they generate will remain in the society. point is, god forbid we have a beautiful and smart female in the spotlight of sc2 community, right? it's not like we're trying to go mainstream, right? kelly, whatever she may have done, didn't deserve this kind of bashing. nobody can deny its in large thanks to her gender. male casters that are roughly same caliber as her get ignored, but for whatever reason with her it's "let's stop that bitch" it's pathetic. don't fear the vagina boys, learn to embrace it Lol really 5/6 of TL'ers? I think you have mistaken TL to another forum. Ironic that you bash on the community while trying to defend Kelly from the bashers. Real nice.
i never bashed the community, i specificly made a disctionction between those who'll get bored in couple of months and the community (those that will remain). i also described those who'll leave as people who post short and meaningless comments, never make posts that consist of 5+ sentences, flame, spam, troll, "troll", just do stupid things that they wouldn't in real life...
i honestly dont know why would you find yourself in that description if you're one of the anti-bashers? it's not directed at you then??
it's funny how trolls are trying to make this personal and when they fail provoking me, go on by making me anti-TL. im all for TL, sorry. im just against low-life scum that makes TL worse than it was
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On September 03 2011 22:25 snailz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 21:58 SEA_GenesiS wrote:On September 03 2011 21:10 snailz wrote:On September 03 2011 20:48 Consolidate wrote:On September 03 2011 18:54 snailz wrote:
she's a girl, a pretty one at that, so she makes a lot of people uncomfortable. when they realize how uncomfortable they, they rage. because when a pretty girl laughs and/or makes fun of them in real life, they can't really rage, can they? but on the internets... /insert random meme
. Please stop. That's some embarrassingly twisted thinking. no it's not when you think about it... everybody knows 5/6 of TL forumers are socially handicapped teenagers who don't know how to act around women, so they take their frustrations out on the internets, post short and unnecesarry things, troll, spam, flame - and will get bored with starcraft in couple of months. while the hate they generate will remain in the society. point is, god forbid we have a beautiful and smart female in the spotlight of sc2 community, right? it's not like we're trying to go mainstream, right? kelly, whatever she may have done, didn't deserve this kind of bashing. nobody can deny its in large thanks to her gender. male casters that are roughly same caliber as her get ignored, but for whatever reason with her it's "let's stop that bitch" it's pathetic. don't fear the vagina boys, learn to embrace it Lol really 5/6 of TL'ers? I think you have mistaken TL to another forum. Ironic that you bash on the community while trying to defend Kelly from the bashers. Real nice. i never bashed the community, i specificly made a disctionction between those who'll get bored in couple of months and the community (those that will remain). i also described those who'll leave as people who post short and meaningless comments, never make posts that consist of 5+ sentences, flame, spam, troll, "troll", just do stupid things that they wouldn't in real life... i honestly dont know why would you find yourself in that description if you're one of the anti-bashers? it's not directed at you then?? it's funny how trolls are trying to make this personal and when they fail provoking me, go on by making me anti-TL. im all for TL, sorry. im just against low-life scum that makes TL worse than it was
Sorry, it's just really tough for me to take anybody seriously when they really just said that 5/6 TL'ers are socially handicapped. Not even gonna bother with that one... And either way this is Kellymilkies fan club, so not gonna go any more off topic 
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find something better to do
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Guys, play nice please. Take all the negative feelings and throw it out the window.
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Tired of all the hate. Sign me up!
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On September 03 2011 18:54 snailz wrote:
she's a girl, a pretty one at that, so she makes a lot of people uncomfortable. when they realize how uncomfortable they, they rage. because when a pretty girl laughs and/or makes fun of them in real life, they can't really rage, can they? but on the internets... /insert random meme
so, kelly. as a caster, she's not the best, but you have people bashing every caster out there, so it doesnt really matter how good you are. what it comes down to is if Kelly is absolutely unskilled? answer is no. people make her out to be like spore-crawler girl from MLG, asking questions like "is this your first NASL". its ridiculous.
support geek females. and while you're at it learn to accept female company. your social awkwardness shouldnt make someone's life harder than it already is, just for the sake of it. next time when u get the urge to insult that pretty girl that reminds you who you really are in real life, go post in threads like "sex=OP in the society?".
p.s. DJWheat cant control his kid half of the time on his professional shows (meaning he gets moneys from the viewership) like Live on Three, drinks beer, swears a lot, laughs like a girl, etc. so why is he questioning her professionalism so harshly? only difference is he can then say "esports, without the fluff" and get away with it all, and she or any other less popular caster can't. so its not fair fight from the get go. and yes i know he's been into esports for a decade or so, but his sc2 cast are no more knowledgable than kellys, to be honest. only more farmiliar english. not all of the casters can be held up to Tastosis/Day9 standards, people.
Why the fuck are you bashing DjWHEAT. Cant control his kid? Are you fucking kidding me. I would only hope that I would be half the dad Djwheat is. There no one more professional, willing to learn and grow esports than DjWHEAT.
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I agree with posters arguing this is cyber bullying. Somewhen in the beginning of a casters career there was a badly handled casting during a show. So what? Unprofessional?
Is it professional to repeat rumours and slander about the sexual life of someone doing casting as a caster on reddit? Is it professional to post a twitter that says "yeah, <name> wtf?..." uppon learning of said slander and rumours? Is it professional to start such a name shaming out of spite over a casting that went badly because the co-caster was overwhelmed by the experience?
None of that is. But neither is eSports, so the glove fits the hand I'd say. I'd then shrug, and go on watching some free GSL streaming. But not before announcing my stance, that bullying is not ok, never.
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On September 04 2011 00:47 Sbuiko wrote:
I agree with posters arguing this is cyber bullying. Somewhen in the beginning of a casters career there was a badly handled casting during a show. So what? Unprofessional?
Is it professional to repeat rumours and slander about the sexual life of someone doing casting as a caster on reddit? Is it professional to post a twitter that says "yeah, <name> wtf?..." uppon learning of said slander and rumours? Is it professional to start such a name shaming out of spite over a casting that went badly because the co-caster was overwhelmed by the experience?
None of that is. But neither is eSports, so the glove fits the hand I'd say. I'd then shrug, and go on watching some free GSL streaming. But not before announcing my stance, that bullying is not ok, never.
This isn't just isolated in the world of esports. You ever listen to sports talk on radio, tv or blogs? This how human culture operates. Opinions will be thrown around and people talk about it then on to the next topic. Guys should just get used to it. Better yet dont get used to it and just act how you guys are acting now cause this will always be the norm.
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Hayders gonna hayd. Just enjoy SC2 people
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locking this until everyone gets over the drama
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You must be the white knight commander general of TL.
So now we all know that you have an imaginary friend called D, who probably really is you, reporting his heart-brokeness over Kelly. You have rationalized away, quite brilliantly actually, all her misdemeanors. One wonders why you would put so much effort into doing so...
At any rate, I feel really sorry for you, honestly. You have no chance with Kelly, ever. Let me tell you why. In simple words, SPGs will be SPGs. You seem like a smart enough guy. So, for lack of a better way to put it, wake up your bloody idea pls. None of my business I know, but your blazing naivety is grating on the nerves.
On September 03 2011 02:41 aLt)nirvana wrote:There is so much misinformation spreading on the internet because of tobiwan and reddit, I'm sure hes pretty satisfied with what hes generated now. I know kelly very well personally so I will comment on this because her fans deserve to know the truth. First of all tobiwan had a crush on her at SMM when they casted live together. Their relationship actually was pretty good and they got on well. I know this because kelly msned me about it during SMM back then when they were still on good terms with each other. Doubt she had any reason to make that up and even then, she was getting quite alot of attention from other guys as well, this I know and can verify as fact because although flattered she felt burdened by the attention and was whining to me. Somewhere along the line Tobi was rejected (obviously nothing personal as she was already in a r/s with glade). You can even see Tobiwan defending kelly after they casted together when they were still on good terms. http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/thread/666752/start/200After it cooled down and Tobiwan realised there was no possible chance he then flipped 180 degrees and went on a kelly hating spree, spreading lots of untrue rumors to FXO management, glade, the sc2 community etc trying to imply shes "Easy" (that whole huk story, what is he trying to imply? lots of couples have fights and "break-ups" in anger, especially young ones) He goes on all out personal attacks and its been a year already and hes still doing it. And if not for the rejection what else could be fueling that hate? I believe its his way of getting back at her because it must have hurt his ego. If it was just a professional issue he would have stopped long ago after he said his piece, he has no reason to continue constantly doing this 1 year after it happened. I do think Tobi is great at casting, and no doubt is a better caster than kelly and has a more professional work ethic but its pretty shameful what hes doing atm and I hope he stops. As for Kelly hugging HuK shes just a touchy/friendly type of girl. It doesn't mean shes easy, when shes in a r/s shes very faithful to her partner. I am good friends with both glade, and another Singaporean player lets call him D. D is kellys best male friend in Singapore. They hang out alot, get along great, go over to each others houses but it is on a strictly platonic level because kelly is commited to glade. It sucks for D although hes happy to remain a good friend to her its no secret he likes her and he tells me everything that goes on because im one of his best friends, and his disappointment of course, although hes happy to be friends rather than nothing. Classic friend zone stuff. Anyway what this proves beyond a doubt is that kelly isnt "easy" or "unfaithful" at all, and the version of kelly being portrayed by tobiwan couldn't be further from the truth I really hope he gets called out for it or punished in some way. Using your position / influence to generate so much hate for some person out of bitter spite is a really immature and shameful to do. User was warned for this post
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On September 08 2011 14:57 Tabula`Rasa wrote:You must be the white knight commander general of TL. So now we all know that you have an imaginary friend called D, who probably really is you, reporting his heart-brokeness over Kelly. You have rationalized away, quite brilliantly actually, all her misdemeanors. One wonders why you would put so much effort into doing so... At any rate, I feel really sorry for you, honestly. You have no chance with Kelly, ever. Let me tell you why. In simple words, SPGs will be SPGs. You seem like a smart enough guy. So, for lack of a better way to put it, wake up your bloody idea pls. None of my business I know, but your blazing naivety is grating on the nerves. Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 02:41 aLt)nirvana wrote:There is so much misinformation spreading on the internet because of tobiwan and reddit, I'm sure hes pretty satisfied with what hes generated now. I know kelly very well personally so I will comment on this because her fans deserve to know the truth. First of all tobiwan had a crush on her at SMM when they casted live together. Their relationship actually was pretty good and they got on well. I know this because kelly msned me about it during SMM back then when they were still on good terms with each other. Doubt she had any reason to make that up and even then, she was getting quite alot of attention from other guys as well, this I know and can verify as fact because although flattered she felt burdened by the attention and was whining to me. Somewhere along the line Tobi was rejected (obviously nothing personal as she was already in a r/s with glade). You can even see Tobiwan defending kelly after they casted together when they were still on good terms. http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/thread/666752/start/200After it cooled down and Tobiwan realised there was no possible chance he then flipped 180 degrees and went on a kelly hating spree, spreading lots of untrue rumors to FXO management, glade, the sc2 community etc trying to imply shes "Easy" (that whole huk story, what is he trying to imply? lots of couples have fights and "break-ups" in anger, especially young ones) He goes on all out personal attacks and its been a year already and hes still doing it. And if not for the rejection what else could be fueling that hate? I believe its his way of getting back at her because it must have hurt his ego. If it was just a professional issue he would have stopped long ago after he said his piece, he has no reason to continue constantly doing this 1 year after it happened. I do think Tobi is great at casting, and no doubt is a better caster than kelly and has a more professional work ethic but its pretty shameful what hes doing atm and I hope he stops. As for Kelly hugging HuK shes just a touchy/friendly type of girl. It doesn't mean shes easy, when shes in a r/s shes very faithful to her partner. I am good friends with both glade, and another Singaporean player lets call him D. D is kellys best male friend in Singapore. They hang out alot, get along great, go over to each others houses but it is on a strictly platonic level because kelly is commited to glade. It sucks for D although hes happy to remain a good friend to her its no secret he likes her and he tells me everything that goes on because im one of his best friends, and his disappointment of course, although hes happy to be friends rather than nothing. Classic friend zone stuff. Anyway what this proves beyond a doubt is that kelly isnt "easy" or "unfaithful" at all, and the version of kelly being portrayed by tobiwan couldn't be further from the truth I really hope he gets called out for it or punished in some way. Using your position / influence to generate so much hate for some person out of bitter spite is a really immature and shameful to do. User was warned for this post
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Why is snailz post not banned or warned? That is some of the most shallow thinking I have ever seen posted on this site. Then I see a dozen people being banned for just speaking the truth. Pretty meh.
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