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On August 25 2011 03:50 Brad` wrote:
Dunno why you bothered to write a multi paragraph response to someone that makes sweeping generalizations about a community he obviously knows nothing about.
If Roffles is either unable or unwilling to update the calendar I'll do it.
Yea I know a thing or two about the BW community.....
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looks like PR went from under features to it's own tab on the top. seems pretty nice
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Part of my morning routine used to be to open TL in anticipation and check if the comment count on the PR had gone up. No more 
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On August 25 2011 02:09 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:13 kuroshiroi wrote:On August 24 2011 18:55 Plexa wrote:EDIT: This is probably somewhat relevant. On August 17 2011 02:29 Chill wrote:
BW zealots are getting annoying here, frankly. Instead of looking at it like "The staff no longer care about BW but they should!" why don't you take the approach of "The staff no longer care about BW, we need some community members here to stand up and help support it."
I can't speak for all staff since there are tons who still watch and love BW. But they're all veterans of the site. They've put their time in updating BW for years and now that it's being dwarfed by SC2, it's hard to keep grinding out the effort.
So if some new people want to step up and help out, do it please. Stop whining about everything and help out. Perhaps it's a bit blunt, but the message is very true. Over the years everything we've done has been built out of passion and dedication towards the game we love. With SC2 a lot of the staff are overburdened tending to their needs and are simply unable to dedicate any more time contributing towards the BW scene (but a lot of the staff still watch BW regularly). What would be ideal is if people came on board and contributed some awesome content. Sad that TLFE is essentially dead? Write something and send it to one of our editors if you think its TLFE standard. Want results on the sidebar? Make sure liquipedia is up to date and we can get it there. It's just a matter of sitting down and doing things for the game. I know its a lot of work and it's pretty different from being spoonfed like most of you are used to, but if you want TL to continue to have strong BW support then we really need people to step up and help us. We can barely cover SC2 let alone BW. What the hell are you talking about? I thought the majority of staff were volunteers? Are you guys getting paid to do SC2 stuff only and that's why nobody has time for BW? If that's the case, hire some unpaid volunteers to focus exclusively on BW. I'm sure there are a bunch of people who'd be willing. Make a thread/news/whatever, asking for these volunteers, hire them and then the problem of lack of staff that cares about BW has been solved. The bystander effect is extremely powerful. I, for one, am tired of never seeing BW events in the calendar till the day before and I'm tired of having to wait up to 12-18 hours before seeing liquipedia updated because afaik only one person is working on those things right now, Antoine? I saw the "submit your event" thread by Chill but that is a really stupid way around the problem, imao, that will likely result in massive duplicate submissions and extra work. Just hire people to add these events from the BW community and most of the whining will likely disappear. I'll even approve of the PR being gone from the sidebar if we get the BW ELO equivalent like SC2 has now. Because as it looks right now, you replaced the PR with the SC2 ranking. It may not have been your ultimate intention but it looks really, really bad to us "BW zealots". You should have waited till R1CH had the BW ranking coded too before removing the PR. That would have eliminated much of this whining. We lost the PR and gained nothing in return. "I will not sacrifice the Enterprise. We've made too many compromises already, too many retreats. They invade our space, and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds, and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far and no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done!" - Jean-Luc Picard Well, we won't make you pay for anything but I think we've definitely reached a line here. Lol you're a huge asshole. TL staff are all volunteers, but you aren't satisfied with our volunteering effort anymore. So fucking volunteer yourself. Guess what? The "stupid solution with duplicate of effort" is how literally every SC2 event gets added to the calendar. Guess they volunteer harder than you.
On August 24 2011 23:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Hey, you, I will update the calendar the SECOND there is a BW event. I just thought editing the calendar was some upper admin access stuff.
I want the calendar updated faster and I want the TLPD updated faster, neither of which "volunteering harder" will solve. The only way to solve that is hire more staff or get the current staff to devote more resources to BW. So, idk, give TTT the calendar job?
Maybe the calendar submission system will work wonderfully, I guess we'll find out in October.
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On August 25 2011 01:58 Redmark wrote:
Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't SC2 and BW calendar based on the exact same user-submission mechanism? Probably that's why there are so many international events, because they're more likely to be submitted.
I guess a see-Korean-events-only button might be useful for you?
Honestly I'm not seeing the supposed bias. The only imbalance is that the BW elo should be shown next to the SC2 ones (which aren't power ranks, I don't know why people say that they are) and that there should be a line for BW under Liquipedia. I feel like this is selection bias. GSTL has been going on for a long time, and many (many) people have requested SC2 team icons, but it hasn't happened yet. R1CH is just busy.
Check the top 5 SC2 (International) under TLPD. It goes like this:
1. Mana
2. Stephano
3. Sen
4. Nerchio
5. White-Ra
Check the actual database. Top 5 goes like this:
1. Puma
2. MC
3. MMA
4. Mana
5. Stephano
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On August 25 2011 02:54 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 02:09 Chill wrote:On August 24 2011 21:13 kuroshiroi wrote:On August 24 2011 18:55 Plexa wrote:EDIT: This is probably somewhat relevant. On August 17 2011 02:29 Chill wrote:
BW zealots are getting annoying here, frankly. Instead of looking at it like "The staff no longer care about BW but they should!" why don't you take the approach of "The staff no longer care about BW, we need some community members here to stand up and help support it."
I can't speak for all staff since there are tons who still watch and love BW. But they're all veterans of the site. They've put their time in updating BW for years and now that it's being dwarfed by SC2, it's hard to keep grinding out the effort.
So if some new people want to step up and help out, do it please. Stop whining about everything and help out. Perhaps it's a bit blunt, but the message is very true. Over the years everything we've done has been built out of passion and dedication towards the game we love. With SC2 a lot of the staff are overburdened tending to their needs and are simply unable to dedicate any more time contributing towards the BW scene (but a lot of the staff still watch BW regularly). What would be ideal is if people came on board and contributed some awesome content. Sad that TLFE is essentially dead? Write something and send it to one of our editors if you think its TLFE standard. Want results on the sidebar? Make sure liquipedia is up to date and we can get it there. It's just a matter of sitting down and doing things for the game. I know its a lot of work and it's pretty different from being spoonfed like most of you are used to, but if you want TL to continue to have strong BW support then we really need people to step up and help us. We can barely cover SC2 let alone BW. What the hell are you talking about? I thought the majority of staff were volunteers? Are you guys getting paid to do SC2 stuff only and that's why nobody has time for BW? If that's the case, hire some unpaid volunteers to focus exclusively on BW. I'm sure there are a bunch of people who'd be willing. Make a thread/news/whatever, asking for these volunteers, hire them and then the problem of lack of staff that cares about BW has been solved. The bystander effect is extremely powerful. I, for one, am tired of never seeing BW events in the calendar till the day before and I'm tired of having to wait up to 12-18 hours before seeing liquipedia updated because afaik only one person is working on those things right now, Antoine? I saw the "submit your event" thread by Chill but that is a really stupid way around the problem, imao, that will likely result in massive duplicate submissions and extra work. Just hire people to add these events from the BW community and most of the whining will likely disappear. I'll even approve of the PR being gone from the sidebar if we get the BW ELO equivalent like SC2 has now. Because as it looks right now, you replaced the PR with the SC2 ranking. It may not have been your ultimate intention but it looks really, really bad to us "BW zealots". You should have waited till R1CH had the BW ranking coded too before removing the PR. That would have eliminated much of this whining. We lost the PR and gained nothing in return. "I will not sacrifice the Enterprise. We've made too many compromises already, too many retreats. They invade our space, and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds, and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far and no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done!" - Jean-Luc Picard Well, we won't make you pay for anything but I think we've definitely reached a line here. Lol you're a huge asshole. TL staff are all volunteers, but you aren't satisfied with our volunteering effort anymore. So fucking volunteer yourself. Guess what? The "stupid solution with duplicate of effort" is how literally every SC2 event gets added to the calendar. Guess they volunteer harder than you. Chill is right. The BW scene is expecting everything handed to them on a silver platter and don't want to do shit for it. You guys want more sponsored tournaments? Get off your ass and organize them. Sick of the iCCup/Game drama? Get up and organize a tournament and make Game obsolete. Sick of no calendar updates? Volunteer. Liquipedia out of date? Update that shit. The BW scene right now is the most self entitled community I have ever seen, and it's a shame. I remember when iCCup had 20+ people applying a day when I joined, and MAYBE 1 a week when I left (for BW). We all know that TL was built on BW, but things change and this is one. You guys are not pulling your end. The fact that TL supports BW at all anymore is above and beyond what most sites would do given the choice (by choice I mean focusing only on SC2 and cutting all BW support). They STILL continue to support it, so if you want to see the coverage and things get better then get up and do it. Edit: Also you guys are not entitled to full support from the whole site for all time. You say "we lost something and gained nothing in return." That's what happens when a game is dying, you get less and less support. Eventually as much as it sucks (years from now), BW will likely be nothing more then one forum like LoL or DoTA2. Unless the BW scene gets motivated and starts making shit happen.
what the hell does this have to do with power rank?
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I don't think most of the BW fans are asking for much. I don't see why people are making it seem like BW fans are waiting for stuff to be done for them. We're not asking for more content, we're wondering why we can't access our content (that's already there) from it's usual spot, especially when it doesn't seem impractical to have it there. I'm also curious to see what SC2 users have gained from this aside from the Liquipedia box.
Our R&S threads are updated.
Our Power rank is written every month, with daily discussions.
TLFE hasn't, but I had the impression that TL was proud of their articles, plus it was the other thing missing so I guess it got bundled with the other two.
Interestingly, guess which major SC2 tournament had an outdated R&S thread on the sidebar for weeks till it was removed? GSL :O
Feels like we didn't gain much from removing those things on the right sidebar, and that's not just from a BW perspective. You could even consider the ELO ranking to be unnecessary spoilers. However, Daigomi has hinted at some possible features in the future so I'm not going to pursue that too much, still curious about it though...
Calendar stuff can wait, we've lived with it for a while now, and there is a thread for BW events and people offering to do it as well.
Ultimately, I don't see why we can't have the Power Rank and R&S links (for both games) on the sidebar. I don't think people would mind if they were below the Polls.
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On August 25 2011 03:58 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 03:50 Brad` wrote:
Dunno why you bothered to write a multi paragraph response to someone that makes sweeping generalizations about a community he obviously knows nothing about.
If Roffles is either unable or unwilling to update the calendar I'll do it. Yea I know a thing or two about the BW community.....
I'm sure you do.
On August 25 2011 02:54 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
The fact that TL supports BW at all anymore is above and beyond what most sites would do given the choice (by choice I mean focusing only on SC2 and cutting all BW support). They STILL continue to support it, so if you want to see the coverage and things get better then get up and do it.
I feel this way as well. TL no longer has a dog in the BW scene yet they have kept it in their website purely out of past and present passion.
However you don't seem to have any idea what this threads complaint is about. This thread is about fans being upset at the power rank being removed from a prominent position on the site and being replaced with a subpar SC2 equivalent.
Complaints made about the calendar are about it's messiness and difficulty in finding relevant information. A BW only calendar has been suggested.
Nobody is complaining about a lack of BW content or events so your tirade about how self-entitled the community is misleading and not true and off topic.
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On August 25 2011 06:51 IntoTheEmo wrote:
I don't think most of the BW fans are asking for much. I don't see why people are making it seem like BW fans are waiting for stuff to be done for them. We're not asking for more content, we're wondering why we can't access our content (that's already there) from it's usual spot, especially when it doesn't seem impractical to have it there. I'm also curious to see what SC2 users have gained from this aside from the Liquipedia box.
Our R&S threads are updated.
Our Power rank is written every month, with daily discussions.
TLFE hasn't, but I had the impression that TL was proud of their articles, plus it was the other thing missing so I guess it got bundled with the other two.
Interestingly, guess which major SC2 tournament had an outdated R&S thread on the sidebar for weeks till it was removed? GSL :O
Feels like we didn't gain much from removing those things on the right sidebar, and that's not just from a BW perspective. You could even consider the ELO ranking to be unnecessary spoilers. However, Daigomi has hinted at some possible features in the future so I'm not going to pursue that too much, still curious about it though...
Calendar stuff can wait, we've lived with it for a while now, and there is a thread for BW events and people offering to do it as well.
Ultimately, I don't see why we can't have the Power Rank and R&S links (for both games) on the sidebar. I don't think people would mind if they were below the Polls.
Make a recent results page on BW liquipedia then. (see the SC2 one if you need model)
It's pretty hard to have one for BW when it doesn't exist. :|
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Calgary25954 Posts
On August 25 2011 05:55 kuroshiroi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 02:09 Chill wrote:On August 24 2011 21:13 kuroshiroi wrote:On August 24 2011 18:55 Plexa wrote:EDIT: This is probably somewhat relevant. On August 17 2011 02:29 Chill wrote:
BW zealots are getting annoying here, frankly. Instead of looking at it like "The staff no longer care about BW but they should!" why don't you take the approach of "The staff no longer care about BW, we need some community members here to stand up and help support it."
I can't speak for all staff since there are tons who still watch and love BW. But they're all veterans of the site. They've put their time in updating BW for years and now that it's being dwarfed by SC2, it's hard to keep grinding out the effort.
So if some new people want to step up and help out, do it please. Stop whining about everything and help out. Perhaps it's a bit blunt, but the message is very true. Over the years everything we've done has been built out of passion and dedication towards the game we love. With SC2 a lot of the staff are overburdened tending to their needs and are simply unable to dedicate any more time contributing towards the BW scene (but a lot of the staff still watch BW regularly). What would be ideal is if people came on board and contributed some awesome content. Sad that TLFE is essentially dead? Write something and send it to one of our editors if you think its TLFE standard. Want results on the sidebar? Make sure liquipedia is up to date and we can get it there. It's just a matter of sitting down and doing things for the game. I know its a lot of work and it's pretty different from being spoonfed like most of you are used to, but if you want TL to continue to have strong BW support then we really need people to step up and help us. We can barely cover SC2 let alone BW. What the hell are you talking about? I thought the majority of staff were volunteers? Are you guys getting paid to do SC2 stuff only and that's why nobody has time for BW? If that's the case, hire some unpaid volunteers to focus exclusively on BW. I'm sure there are a bunch of people who'd be willing. Make a thread/news/whatever, asking for these volunteers, hire them and then the problem of lack of staff that cares about BW has been solved. The bystander effect is extremely powerful. I, for one, am tired of never seeing BW events in the calendar till the day before and I'm tired of having to wait up to 12-18 hours before seeing liquipedia updated because afaik only one person is working on those things right now, Antoine? I saw the "submit your event" thread by Chill but that is a really stupid way around the problem, imao, that will likely result in massive duplicate submissions and extra work. Just hire people to add these events from the BW community and most of the whining will likely disappear. I'll even approve of the PR being gone from the sidebar if we get the BW ELO equivalent like SC2 has now. Because as it looks right now, you replaced the PR with the SC2 ranking. It may not have been your ultimate intention but it looks really, really bad to us "BW zealots". You should have waited till R1CH had the BW ranking coded too before removing the PR. That would have eliminated much of this whining. We lost the PR and gained nothing in return. "I will not sacrifice the Enterprise. We've made too many compromises already, too many retreats. They invade our space, and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds, and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far and no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done!" - Jean-Luc Picard Well, we won't make you pay for anything but I think we've definitely reached a line here. Lol you're a huge asshole. TL staff are all volunteers, but you aren't satisfied with our volunteering effort anymore. So fucking volunteer yourself. Guess what? The "stupid solution with duplicate of effort" is how literally every SC2 event gets added to the calendar. Guess they volunteer harder than you. Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 23:20 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Hey, you, I will update the calendar the SECOND there is a BW event. I just thought editing the calendar was some upper admin access stuff. I want the calendar updated faster and I want the TLPD updated faster, neither of which "volunteering harder" will solve. The only way to solve that is hire more staff or get the current staff to devote more resources to BW. So, idk, give TTT the calendar job? Maybe the calendar submission system will work wonderfully, I guess we'll find out in October.
The limiting factor are the volunteers, I assure you. We have a giant yellow bar across the top of TL telling us how many pending events are waiting to be approved.
It's at zero right now (like it almost always is).
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Calgary25954 Posts
On August 25 2011 03:50 Brad` wrote:
If Roffles is either unable or unwilling to update the calendar I'll do it.
Awesome. Use this thread to add all BW events to the queue.
Please make sure all your submissions are consistent with past formatting.
Thanks.
http://www.teamliquid.net/calendar/submit.php
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South Africa4316 Posts
On August 25 2011 07:02 ShadeR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 03:58 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On August 25 2011 03:50 Brad` wrote:
Dunno why you bothered to write a multi paragraph response to someone that makes sweeping generalizations about a community he obviously knows nothing about.
If Roffles is either unable or unwilling to update the calendar I'll do it. Yea I know a thing or two about the BW community..... I'm sure you do. Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 02:54 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
The fact that TL supports BW at all anymore is above and beyond what most sites would do given the choice (by choice I mean focusing only on SC2 and cutting all BW support). They STILL continue to support it, so if you want to see the coverage and things get better then get up and do it.
I feel this way as well. TL no longer has a dog in the BW scene yet they have kept it in their website purely out of past and present passion. However you don't seem to have any idea what this threads complaint is about. This thread is about fans being upset at the power rank being removed from a prominent position on the site and being replaced with a subpar SC2 equivalent. Complaints made about the calendar are about it's messiness and difficulty in finding relevant information. A BW only calendar has been suggested. Nobody is complaining about a lack of BW content or events so your tirade about how self-entitled the community is misleading and not true and off topic.
I think the reason it's gone off topic is because the Power Rank thing has been addressed already. The Power Rank will be made into a proper TL news article while the TLPD Elo rankings will be enabled for both SC2 and BW. The only reason the BW rankings aren't up yet is because a way to swap between the SC2 and BW rankings hasn't been coded yet.
As the sidebar not having BW rankings for a short time is pretty much a non-issue, the conversation has devolved into a criticism of the diminishing role that BW is playing on TL, which is where Diamond's post comes in.
Finally, whether the rankings are "subpar" or not is a matter of what you're looking for in them, but the TL staff agrees that the power rank is more of an editorial/discussion thread, and less of a permanent piece of information to display. Most of the comments here, even by the BW fans, seem to agree, as people seem to mostly miss being able to see if any new discussion has occurred. As it is an editorial thread primarily for discussion, there's no reason why it should take preference over any other "hot topics" that people discuss on TL by getting a massive part of the sidebar dedicated to it. It should be on the front page, with all the other editorial threads people like to discuss, and perhaps get a sticky in the BW forum.
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Chill's right. Having more people--writers, TLPD updaters, etc., would be ridiculously nice. We just don't have the staff coverage right now. Granted, we don't have enough Brood War events right now, but still.
I'm personally saddened by the lack of Power Rank (it was the first thing I ever read when I came to TL) and having it gone just seems weird. I can fully understand the decision, though I still feel like I lost a bit of what made TL special for me.
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South Africa4316 Posts
Double post woops
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On August 25 2011 07:05 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 06:51 IntoTheEmo wrote:
I don't think most of the BW fans are asking for much. I don't see why people are making it seem like BW fans are waiting for stuff to be done for them. We're not asking for more content, we're wondering why we can't access our content (that's already there) from it's usual spot, especially when it doesn't seem impractical to have it there. I'm also curious to see what SC2 users have gained from this aside from the Liquipedia box.
Our R&S threads are updated.
Our Power rank is written every month, with daily discussions.
TLFE hasn't, but I had the impression that TL was proud of their articles, plus it was the other thing missing so I guess it got bundled with the other two.
Interestingly, guess which major SC2 tournament had an outdated R&S thread on the sidebar for weeks till it was removed? GSL :O
Feels like we didn't gain much from removing those things on the right sidebar, and that's not just from a BW perspective. You could even consider the ELO ranking to be unnecessary spoilers. However, Daigomi has hinted at some possible features in the future so I'm not going to pursue that too much, still curious about it though...
Calendar stuff can wait, we've lived with it for a while now, and there is a thread for BW events and people offering to do it as well.
Ultimately, I don't see why we can't have the Power Rank and R&S links (for both games) on the sidebar. I don't think people would mind if they were below the Polls. Make a recent results page on BW liquipedia then. (see the SC2 one if you need model) It's pretty hard to have one for BW when it doesn't exist. :|
Nope, not asking for that Premier SC2 tournaments link, it's only been a day gone and people have forgotten the R&S list that was shared by both games?
Shinhan Bank PL 10-11
Jin Air OSL
FXO KoTH
Iccup Korean Weekly #6
etc.
Ya, don't get how you got that I wanted a BW equivalent recent results page. All the major Korean tournament R&S, short and simple.
Forgot to add as well, it only takes a quick glance at the BW forums to see why people are getting extra upset about this, if there was a reverse Ee Han Timing to do this, you couldn't have picked a better time. What was the hurry to remove all those things from the sidebar when all that was added were the ELO ranks and Liquipedia box? Just curious.
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Does anyone know where they release broodwar event dates? I can't read korean so I can't really navigate fomos for it, so is there some static place where I could get the gist of upcoming events so that I can upload them to Chill's link? I'm a very scheduled person and can check daily to submit new events so they're always up well in advance, I'm just not sure where to find it.
edit: Also, what is the method we go about editing BW TLPD? I never knew normal users could affect it. I'm a very frequent live watcher and have many times found myself eyeing TLPD waiting for it to be updated.
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United States11390 Posts
On August 25 2011 07:46 IntoTheEmo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 07:05 Harem wrote:On August 25 2011 06:51 IntoTheEmo wrote:
I don't think most of the BW fans are asking for much. I don't see why people are making it seem like BW fans are waiting for stuff to be done for them. We're not asking for more content, we're wondering why we can't access our content (that's already there) from it's usual spot, especially when it doesn't seem impractical to have it there. I'm also curious to see what SC2 users have gained from this aside from the Liquipedia box.
Our R&S threads are updated.
Our Power rank is written every month, with daily discussions.
TLFE hasn't, but I had the impression that TL was proud of their articles, plus it was the other thing missing so I guess it got bundled with the other two.
Interestingly, guess which major SC2 tournament had an outdated R&S thread on the sidebar for weeks till it was removed? GSL :O
Feels like we didn't gain much from removing those things on the right sidebar, and that's not just from a BW perspective. You could even consider the ELO ranking to be unnecessary spoilers. However, Daigomi has hinted at some possible features in the future so I'm not going to pursue that too much, still curious about it though...
Calendar stuff can wait, we've lived with it for a while now, and there is a thread for BW events and people offering to do it as well.
Ultimately, I don't see why we can't have the Power Rank and R&S links (for both games) on the sidebar. I don't think people would mind if they were below the Polls. Make a recent results page on BW liquipedia then. (see the SC2 one if you need model) It's pretty hard to have one for BW when it doesn't exist. :| Nope, not asking for that Premier SC2 tournaments link, it's only been a day gone and people have forgotten the R&S list that was shared by both games? Shinhan Bank PL 10-11 Jin Air OSL FXO KoTH Iccup Korean Weekly #6 etc. Ya, don't get how you got that I wanted a BW equivalent recent results page. All the major Korean tournament R&S, short and simple. Forgot to add as well, it only takes a quick glance at the BW forums to see why people are getting extra upset about this, if there was a reverse Ee Han Timing to do this, you couldn't have picked a better time. What was the hurry to remove all those things from the sidebar when all that was added were the ELO ranks and Liquipedia box? Just curious.
We're replacing R&S threads with liquipedia equivalent as explained earlier in thread.
On August 24 2011 18:55 Plexa wrote:
So far as the recent results go, we'd like to move to a liquipedia oriented system - and hence for BW we'd need the pages up to date (afaik the jinair one is a week out?). Once we're satisfied with it I'm sure R1CH will add it.
On August 24 2011 23:24 Daigomi wrote:
The R&S threads I can't comment on, but I know there's been a drive to replace R&S threads with liquipedia pages. I assume the BW section doesn't have the same summary pages yet, which is something user contribution will help with. If those pages exist, I can promise you they will be featured in the same way. Perhaps since there's only really two current BW tournaments remaining (OSL and PL), they might get direct links there. As I said though, the sidebars are still a work in progress and we will be adding things to it. Once again, I assume the BW fans aren't this angry because the links aren't there yet.
On August 25 2011 08:12 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Does anyone know where they release broodwar event dates? I can't read korean so I can't really navigate fomos for it, so is there some static place where I could get the gist of upcoming events so that I can upload them to Chill's link? I'm a very scheduled person and can check daily to submit new events so they're always up well in advance, I'm just not sure where to find it.
http://www.fomos.kr/dal/dal.html?mode=dal is one place to get them.
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United States7481 Posts
On August 25 2011 08:12 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Does anyone know where they release broodwar event dates? I can't read korean so I can't really navigate fomos for it, so is there some static place where I could get the gist of upcoming events so that I can upload them to Chill's link? I'm a very scheduled person and can check daily to submit new events so they're always up well in advance, I'm just not sure where to find it.
edit: Also, what is the method we go about editing BW TLPD? I never knew normal users could affect it.
http://www.e-sports.or.kr/KeSPA07.HTML#rank
you can see the calendar on the right, green are days with games and you can click them.
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