There seems to be a bit of controversy. Why can't right column be customized?
I imagine elements like PowerRank, Liquipedia SC2, Liquipedia BW, TLPD Universal search, TLPD default database, TLPD SC2 International search, TLPD SC2 Korea, TLPD BW Korea, SC2 Top(5) nationality dependent, SC2 Top(5) nationality independent, BW top(5) korea and - possibly - etc make for easy to build "blocks" of code and easy to set parameters in the profile. Even with sorting.
Unless TeamLiquid.net is coded badly (which I guess is not the case) it's easy to do in few hours and even I could do it as a volunteer (even as I'm mostly stalker here - it's my 21st post and yet I visit TL for like 2 years now, nearly daily).
On August 26 2011 17:22 hauton wrote: To be honest, I think most of us BW fans are just upset that TL is being redesigned piecemeal in a way that mostly, if not entirely, favours SC2. To say that TL doesn't owe BW anything is pretty cold-hearted - Team Liquid was built on the foundation of Brood War, if you really think they could've turned their backs the moment SC2 was released without any outrage, you're fooling yourself. Lets not pretend that it's some kind of one-way street either - TL benefits from continued BW fan support, and vice-versa. Nobody's "doing anyone a favour", the definition of a community is this give and take, this reciprocal relationship where everyone benefits.
Putting aside the volunteerism for now, I think something like this, removing the Power Rankings without any communication until TTT had to ask, doesn't send the best message. Compound it with previous changes like the defaulting of TLPD and Liquipedia to SC2, we as BW fans really feel like we've become second-class citizens. If that's the case, then OK - I can't argue with the demographics, but at least have the decency to be forthcoming about it.
I mean, at this rate, you might as well not have a teamliquid.net/sc2 because the regular page is starting to look not much different in all honesty.
edit: I'm sure someone has already asked before, but would a BW-only version of teamliquid.net/sc2/ be feasible? At this point I almost feel like it's for the best - the divide has only gotten worse, not better and I think the ill will is pretty incurable now.
They've already said they'll change both TLPF and Liquipedia sections to include BW. That's really the only imbalanced thing I can see.
Did you read Nazgul's post?
Yeah I did. As far as I know, the TLPD defaulting to SC2 was fully intentional and has been so for months.
Relegating Power Rank because it was static doesn't seem to make much sense when you still have a dedicated TSL section where the last entry was a hype topic from May.
On August 26 2011 17:22 hauton wrote: To be honest, I think most of us BW fans are just upset that TL is being redesigned piecemeal in a way that mostly, if not entirely, favours SC2. To say that TL doesn't owe BW anything is pretty cold-hearted - Team Liquid was built on the foundation of Brood War, if you really think they could've turned their backs the moment SC2 was released without any outrage, you're fooling yourself. Lets not pretend that it's some kind of one-way street either - TL benefits from continued BW fan support, and vice-versa. Nobody's "doing anyone a favour", the definition of a community is this give and take, this reciprocal relationship where everyone benefits.
Putting aside the volunteerism for now, I think something like this, removing the Power Rankings without any communication until TTT had to ask, doesn't send the best message. Compound it with previous changes like the defaulting of TLPD and Liquipedia to SC2, we as BW fans really feel like we've become second-class citizens. If that's the case, then OK - I can't argue with the demographics, but at least have the decency to be forthcoming about it.
I mean, at this rate, you might as well not have a teamliquid.net/sc2 because the regular page is starting to look not much different in all honesty.
edit: I'm sure someone has already asked before, but would a BW-only version of teamliquid.net/sc2/ be feasible? At this point I almost feel like it's for the best - the divide has only gotten worse, not better and I think the ill will is pretty incurable now.
They've already said they'll change both TLPF and Liquipedia sections to include BW. That's really the only imbalanced thing I can see.
Did you read Nazgul's post?
Yeah I did. As far as I know, the TLPD defaulting to SC2 was fully intentional and has been so for months.
Relegating Power Rank because it was static doesn't seem to make much sense when you still have a dedicated TSL section where the last entry was a hype topic from May.
If you actually did read my post you would know that the TSL section and poll will be removed as well.
On September 07 2011 09:17 meegrean wrote: I honestly stopped caring about the Power Rank many months ago... Actually, just about everything on the right sidebar too.
I guess Starcraft 2 fans love them though.
How dare you. Streams are cool. Liquipedia is awesome. To a lesser extend things like the poll and TLPD are useful sometimes too.
On August 29 2011 17:43 nimdil wrote: There seems to be a bit of controversy. Why can't right column be customized?
I imagine elements like PowerRank, Liquipedia SC2, Liquipedia BW, TLPD Universal search, TLPD default database, TLPD SC2 International search, TLPD SC2 Korea, TLPD BW Korea, SC2 Top(5) nationality dependent, SC2 Top(5) nationality independent, BW top(5) korea and - possibly - etc make for easy to build "blocks" of code and easy to set parameters in the profile. Even with sorting.
Unless TeamLiquid.net is coded badly (which I guess is not the case) it's easy to do in few hours and even I could do it as a volunteer (even as I'm mostly stalker here - it's my 21st post and yet I visit TL for like 2 years now, nearly daily).
I would imagine it has less to do with how well TL is coded and more to do with the age of the site. If it's core structure was created almost 10 years ago, it might be difficult to pull apart different modules. Given how often this suggestion gets raised, I am sure that if it was so simple R1CH would have done it by now. But maybe he just needs more hands? (Unlikely giving his wizardiness)
1) PR always had bursts of activity at the end and beginning of the month 2) there was always someone BIG who would lose (jangbi > flash, jaedongs fall, fantasy is hot) and bursts would happened
makes no sense to do it and it is so sad, really sad that you done that and gave so funny explanation to do it. TSL is not necessary anymore and it could be removed first.
So, if we look Plexas unlogical explanation of removing PR I must ask: when we can expect removal of replays and broodwar from left side? I mean, it uses too much room and bursts are only when some finals are played and it is every few months or so, right? And who watches BW replays anymore, right?
On August 29 2011 17:43 nimdil wrote: There seems to be a bit of controversy. Why can't right column be customized?
I imagine elements like PowerRank, Liquipedia SC2, Liquipedia BW, TLPD Universal search, TLPD default database, TLPD SC2 International search, TLPD SC2 Korea, TLPD BW Korea, SC2 Top(5) nationality dependent, SC2 Top(5) nationality independent, BW top(5) korea and - possibly - etc make for easy to build "blocks" of code and easy to set parameters in the profile. Even with sorting.
Unless TeamLiquid.net is coded badly (which I guess is not the case) it's easy to do in few hours and even I could do it as a volunteer (even as I'm mostly stalker here - it's my 21st post and yet I visit TL for like 2 years now, nearly daily).
I would imagine it has less to do with how well TL is coded and more to do with the age of the site. If it's core structure was created almost 10 years ago, it might be difficult to pull apart different modules. Given how often this suggestion gets raised, I am sure that if it was so simple R1CH would have done it by now. But maybe he just needs more hands? (Unlikely giving his wizardiness)
You may be correct. But it may - just as well - be that the administrators don't want customizable right column. Actually there are not that many websites where you can customize layout of the essential part of it. Any at all?
TSL bar still not removed, OSL R&S thread not there, even though it's kept up to date, no OSL in the latest poll, even though it literally begs to be put there (the final is next week, it has a fucking Protoss in it).
Sorry, but you're explanations seem like empty promises. ;/
I know it had a Protoss. Doesn't change the fact that having one in an OSL final is very rare, especially considering Protoss player haven't been doing too good the past couple of years. Also I have no idea how you came up with "a poll that only gives two options".
On September 07 2011 21:13 purgerinho wrote: 1) PR always had bursts of activity at the end and beginning of the month 2) there was always someone BIG who would lose (jangbi > flash, jaedongs fall, fantasy is hot) and bursts would happened
makes no sense to do it and it is so sad, really sad that you done that and gave so funny explanation to do it. TSL is not necessary anymore and it could be removed first.
So, if we look Plexas unlogical explanation of removing PR I must ask: when we can expect removal of replays and broodwar from left side? I mean, it uses too much room and bursts are only when some finals are played and it is every few months or so, right? And who watches BW replays anymore, right?
Call it unlogical if you wish, but that is what we are striving for on the right. Things like TSL should have been removed by now.
EDIT: I don't know why OSL finals were left off, but if it were added my bet is that there would be an sc2 vs bw argument in the discussion. Poll is another thing that needs to go.
On September 10 2011 18:15 maybenexttime wrote: TSL bar still not removed, OSL R&S thread not there, even though it's kept up to date, no OSL in the latest poll, even though it literally begs to be put there (the final is next week, it has a fucking Protoss in it).
Sorry, but you're explanations seem like empty promises. ;/
Succeeded in getting us all to shut up, so i suppose it worked out alright.
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