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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
June 28 2010 23:16 GMT
#1341
thanks for the tips guys

this might be one thing I can't post a video of, but I'll get one of the trainers to take a look at my form
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teekesselchen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany886 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-28 23:46:37
June 28 2010 23:40 GMT
#1342
I had an illness which was basically an auto immune reaction that turned against the muscles, resulting in inflamation and extreme strength loss in most muscles (not life threatening such as directly hearth muscle but pretty much everything else - torso, arms, legs) which was actually 9 years ago when I was 10. Got diagnosed and treated quickly (what's big luck, many other people suffering from this disease called Dermathomyositis don't get diagnosed correctly for years).
Although I did alot of sports in early childhood, I always had bad strength and condition and was ill more than average boys, so I never really enjoyed sports. After treatment I didn't even have the strength to walk, so I needed rehab and so on.
Actually muscle recovery was really really fast but I never did much sports apart from school sports (during first years I just got rated 3 (= C) by default, afterwards I got the same grade. Overall, I never had any intention or motivation to start doing more sports. At least the drugs kept me away from gaining weight although I probably ate more than it's good with so few exercise.

Now I finished the treatment (took a shrinking amount of drugs until half a year ago. Seems I'm lucky and the disease disappeared during the treatment. There is a good chance of this to happen during puberty, although no guarantee.) and abitur (a levels) and got nothing to do until I might get a university place or start something like a voluntary year of social service or something, so it's just perfect for me to start doing some sports. During school I felt kinda stressed out, possibly caused by the medication or bad physical shape, but now it's alright.

My stamina isn't even that bad, at least better than expected, same goes for upper legs, stomach and biceps. Strange combination, somehow stomach muscles improved kinda well from the very start so I trained them from time to time, also had a good training when I did Wing Chun for a couple years. Biceps just took me a dumbel and a few minutes every few days, so I just used it sometimes.
Legs and stamina improved early on because I have a short way to school, so I went there by bike as soon as my muscles allowed it and somehow those 2x10 minutes each day had quite an effect so I occasionally rode it for some kilometres.

Right now I'm doing a basic workout every now and then (when the muscles feel like they allow it, the result is that I do most exercises every 3-4 days), mainly self weight exercises like pushups etc. plus bike (around 25-50 km/day for the last few days) and running.
The last part, running, starts to get me mad. First thing that starts hurting is not lungs or upper legs but my lower legs. Shouldn't surprise me since they had almost no training because I almost never ran for more than 400m-800m a week at school. I simply was never motivated to do so since I had almost no stamina for most of the time since I was 10.
So my upper legs and stamina are pretty ok whereas my shin starts hurting after a few 100 metres. It's not the calfs either, although they simply must be extraordinary weak for not beeing used. Guess it's the muscle or sinew that counters the body weigth to allow the feet to roll after hitting the ground.
Makes me pretty mad since everything else is pretty allright and I'm motivated to train running.
Well, I'm just gonna wait for a couple of days or weeks in hope that the muscle adapts before trying anything else. Possibly I can find a way to train it specifically.
Also I possibly should stretch it before and after training, gosh I'm an idiot that I have to write all this to get this idea by myself -.-

Is there anyone in this forum who might have an advice how I might fix this little issue with specific training for that muscle party which is involved in lifting the foot towards the shin or something?
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EntertainMe
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
864 Posts
June 28 2010 23:46 GMT
#1343
This thread just became very scary.

But thanks, veryyy veryyy informative.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
June 28 2010 23:58 GMT
#1344
On June 29 2010 07:35 eshlow wrote:
Don't burn yourself out.

Less is more when you're a novice.

That's why Starting Strength is only 3 workouts a week.....

There's only 3 gym workouts.
The running workouts and basketball are "light" days.

Either way, I'd really like to force myself to adapt to a bigger workload.
On June 29 2010 00:16 mOnion wrote:
it feels like i've torn my quads or something, not incredibly severe, just very very uncomfortable and not the "good" pain that I like to feel when I workout

Where is the pain? Is it just right above the knees?
When I first started doing squats, there was a strange pain/soreness in that muscle there and I would walk really stupid, sometimes my knees would buckle during a leisurely walk. It went away after I worked on my form, and kept doing squats. That muscle might be really weak or something.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
June 29 2010 01:38 GMT
#1345
On June 29 2010 08:40 teekesselchen wrote:

Is there anyone in this forum who might have an advice how I might fix this little issue with specific training for that muscle party which is involved in lifting the foot towards the shin or something?


I'll just repeat what eshlow & co told me a few pages back for my shin splints:
-Ice + anti inflammatory after you go running
-Ease in to it slowly, preferably on something other than concrete (rubber track, grass, etc)
-Do exercises like standing on one leg and doing a calf raise; and make 10 circles with your feet, counter clockwise & clockwise, do a few sets of each of those.

As for me, did last heavy day of deadlifts today:
10x215, 8x325, 6x350, 4x375, 2x405, 1x425. Maxing out friday, shooting for at least 445, if not 455.

Also, how the fuck do you front squat...it murders my wrists/fingers/shoulders lol. after 135 it was just too much to load up on my shoulders and raped my hands.

New (lofty) Goals:
Date: Before i leave for school, august 18th, or before school starts sept 1
Goals
-Bench 305
-Squat 455
-Deadlift 505(lol really more like 485)
-Maintain bw of 205, if not drop to 200. more muscle less fat gogogo. Already looking more noticeably fit than end of school semester
-Increase my fucking endurance my god is it sad. i did 2 intervals today of 100jog/100sprint/100j/100s and was fucking beat.
-Win at life & rugby
-Somehow manage to get faster T_T
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 29 2010 02:08 GMT
#1346
On June 29 2010 10:38 decafchicken wrote:


Also, how the fuck do you front squat...it murders my wrists/fingers/shoulders lol. after 135 it was just too much to load up on my shoulders and raped my hands.



its probably a flexiblilty issue if you cant get your hands around for front squatting. There are some exercises to gain the flexiblily which ill try to find. But you dont have to hold the bar with your whole hand, you can just hold the bar with just one or two fingers. I only hold the bar with 2 fingers since it doesnt fatigue my upper body as much.


the video is the positioning of what I am talking about
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
June 29 2010 02:44 GMT
#1347
That guy is a straight beast jesus. I'll give that a shot just using 2 fingers, hopefully i dont lose control of the bar. Will my shoulders get used to the weight pretty quickly? And when you're cleaning, how are you holding the bar during the front squat.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3546 Posts
June 29 2010 02:48 GMT
#1348
Michael Dobler
Age: 17 || Height: 6'0" || Weight: 158 lbs, 71.7kg
Starting Date: June 2010 || Goal Date: June 2011
Weight goals -- not sure, I mostly want to get into better shape, I'm not really trying to lose weight as much as I am to look like a sexy animal
Training goals -- 5:45 minute mile, six pack
Nutrition goals -- Only eat junk food when I'm watching proleague , buy less junk at work in the break room
Misc goals -- I wanna look like james bond! Also work up the courage to take my nerd body to the school weight room sometime this summer, it has tons of equipment and like 75 machines and is free, but the football team is in it a lot

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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
June 29 2010 04:10 GMT
#1349
anyone have any protein suggestions? I'm currently using Muscle Milk but only because it's what I've used for forever

I'd ask the guys at like GNC but I always feel like they're trying to sell me X_X
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
June 29 2010 04:54 GMT
#1350
On June 29 2010 13:10 mOnion wrote:
anyone have any protein suggestions? I'm currently using Muscle Milk but only because it's what I've used for forever

I'd ask the guys at like GNC but I always feel like they're trying to sell me X_X

I use it too...don't see any problems with it.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 29 2010 06:01 GMT
#1351
On June 29 2010 11:08 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2010 10:38 decafchicken wrote:


Also, how the fuck do you front squat...it murders my wrists/fingers/shoulders lol. after 135 it was just too much to load up on my shoulders and raped my hands.



its probably a flexiblilty issue if you cant get your hands around for front squatting. There are some exercises to gain the flexiblily which ill try to find. But you dont have to hold the bar with your whole hand, you can just hold the bar with just one or two fingers. I only hold the bar with 2 fingers since it doesnt fatigue my upper body as much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkK9-mnDAy4
the video is the positioning of what I am talking about


i was so confused as to why this was supposed to be impressive and why there seemed to be so many plates on the bar

then i realized it was 200kg and not 200lb. that's crazy!
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
June 29 2010 06:31 GMT
#1352
On June 29 2010 13:10 mOnion wrote:
anyone have any protein suggestions? I'm currently using Muscle Milk but only because it's what I've used for forever

what's the protein for and why do you wanna switch?

i use muscle milk or metabolic drive for meal replacement shakes (i also throw berries and use almond or hemp milk instead of regular milk because of lactose intolerance).

i use surge recovery for post-workout.




i hear you should use whey isolate/hydrolysate for post-workout and slower digesting proteins like egg or casein for MRPs.


but i don't know. that's all silliness for noobs like me

RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 06:43:00
June 29 2010 06:40 GMT
#1353
Why don't you tell her what you just told us?


Sorry, but do you really think someone would come on a forum and share that without first confronting the person who's the source of the problem?

Er, forget I asked. Yeah, I tell her all the time. She says that she can enjoy the food more if I eat it too.

I use it too...don't see any problems with it.


There's nothing wrong with Muscle Milk. It's a great supplement.

I personally use the Gold Standard whey/casein/multivitamin combo, but that's only because my seller has a three item stack for cheap.
st3roids
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece538 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 08:49:23
June 29 2010 08:43 GMT
#1354
About protein Gaspari myofusion is the best imo .

try to switch proteins all the time cause sticking with 1 brand may result in food alergies.

@ teekesselchen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_therapy_for_idiopathic_inflammatory_myopathies although i do think you need to contact a specialist.


About calories restrict diets maybe they work for humans although not much research with actual humans exist so far but i prefer to be healthy and strong than live 100 years old and weak.

If theres any similarities within nature , predators which are usually carnivores live much less years than herbivores or omnivores but their much stronger , agile and beautiful
matko5
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia385 Posts
June 29 2010 10:26 GMT
#1355
It's a bummer when you can't go and workout because you've cut a finger to the thendom. And the bastard just won't heal.
Disi gazda
teekesselchen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany886 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 12:50:07
June 29 2010 12:41 GMT
#1356
On June 29 2010 17:43 st3roids wrote:
About protein Gaspari myofusion is the best imo .

try to switch proteins all the time cause sticking with 1 brand may result in food alergies.

@ teekesselchen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_therapy_for_idiopathic_inflammatory_myopathies although i do think you need to contact a specialist.



Oh you got me wrong, I had treatment for 9 years with high dosed cortisone and immune supressants. The shin problem is not related to the illness which eventually disappeared, it's only because my lower legs are barely used to any sport like stress.

The training is not directly related to the original dermatomyositis, only thing working there was medication. It's rather to compensate the aftermath of several years without real sports.

Proof that the illness disappeared is that I don't have the typical marks on my skin (dermathomyositis = inflamation of muscles and skin), muscle strength does not reduce and is pretty normal and that labory tests don't reveal a super high CK-value anymore ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creatine_kinase ). Dunno exactly about the values but firsts tests were like 17.000, whereas now it's rather normal around 100. In short, it is a value that increases when muscle tissue dies or something like that.
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
June 29 2010 13:15 GMT
#1357
About protein Gaspari myofusion is the best imo .


I love Gaspari (use Sizeon and I'm saving the Superpump I got for when my workouts start to get more intense), and I didn't know they made a protein. I'll try it out after I finish all of this Gold Standard. It may take a while considering I have quite a bit to go through though; I order in bulk.

Have you ever used the Green Magnitude/White Flood stack? I've heard it's outstanding for the price.
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 13:29:20
June 29 2010 13:28 GMT
#1358
So in a sort-of-related topic, I'm not at all interested in getting physically fit or healthy, but I'm interested in building and maintaining a sexy physique. To that end, I've been doing P90X Ab-ripper. 2 weeks after I started, I find I'm basically able to keep up with the guys in the vid without breaking a sweat or having any soreness in the abs (maybe that's why you shouldn't do it everyday T_T). Given I don't have access to a lot of equipment here in Shanghai, what are some good ways I can intensify an ab workout with minimum extra effort/time and maximum gain sexiness-wise? Should I go for more reps first or more resistance? And if resistance, what are some ways I can go about adding more resistance?
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Dicember12345
Profile Joined June 2010
United States28 Posts
June 29 2010 13:47 GMT
#1359
On June 29 2010 11:08 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2010 10:38 decafchicken wrote:


Also, how the fuck do you front squat...it murders my wrists/fingers/shoulders lol. after 135 it was just too much to load up on my shoulders and raped my hands.



its probably a flexiblilty issue if you cant get your hands around for front squatting. There are some exercises to gain the flexiblily which ill try to find. But you dont have to hold the bar with your whole hand, you can just hold the bar with just one or two fingers. I only hold the bar with 2 fingers since it doesnt fatigue my upper body as much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkK9-mnDAy4
the video is the positioning of what I am talking about


holy shit. was waiting for that guy to break his collarbone the whole time.

that shit cant be good for you...
st3roids
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece538 Posts
June 29 2010 15:07 GMT
#1360
On June 29 2010 22:15 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
About protein Gaspari myofusion is the best imo .


I love Gaspari (use Sizeon and I'm saving the Superpump I got for when my workouts start to get more intense), and I didn't know they made a protein. I'll try it out after I finish all of this Gold Standard. It may take a while considering I have quite a bit to go through though; I order in bulk.

Have you ever used the Green Magnitude/White Flood stack? I've heard it's outstanding for the price.



Nope unless it comes with naother name in Greece.

In eu and esp greece proteins is still be regarded as drugs or something similar fro many so the laws are a bit strict compare to other countries ( like sweden or u.s )

If myofusion has half of the things it claims to have it still will rock and the taste ... wonderfull esp the double fudge choco.

Creatine kinase is the most accurate mean to measure over training in atheletes.

@ teekesselchen

Try these links :

http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/program_design_for_dummies;jsessionid=C0CD23B3711049B62836C6CCBC4B7360-hf.hydra

http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/totalbody_training

google chad waterbury or alwyn cosgrove for full body programs design for novices
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