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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 03 2014 18:39 GMT
#301
Hmmm yes blademail would have 1-shot me LOL.

Thats what BKB is for though.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
February 03 2014 18:56 GMT
#302
Jinata+Liquid fire on a mele cary hero. Liquid fire gives you a free 500 range attack that stacks with your damage + Jinata slow and bonus damage. Pair that with a 3rd normal skill and possibly flesh golem, and you'll be doing infinite damage my friend.

Overload + (insert spammable spell) + BristleBack ult is simply unfair. Actually scratch that, Overload and any random spammable spell is stupidly good on ranged heroes. I don't think it's as good when it's on mele heroes because you can't harass people in lane, though it still works.

Aftershock + spammable slow like goo. Fuck this combo. Infinite stun, no mana cost.

Enchant totem on a ranged hero. Level 5 will have you chunking people in lane for 20% of their health. Simply ridiculous.
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 19:18:48
February 03 2014 19:18 GMT
#303
I tried the aftershock goo combo once. Had leshrac with split earth and lesh ult as well. Learned that toggling lesh ult doesn't trigger aftershock... And as soon as they noticed what was going on they just ff'd me down every fight. I'd almost always get the person I stuck on, but the other 4 would just throw every nuke they had my way. Went a tank build and still couldn't survive T.T

And then my team had generally useless spells so they couldn't exactly clean up =p
fdsdfg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1251 Posts
February 03 2014 19:33 GMT
#304
This mode seems to lose its appeal after 3 or 4 games. Usually heroes are either incredibly overpowered, or a little underpowered. Most all games I've been in have had a laning phase centered around 'oh I didn't know he had that', into a lategame with a 950 range Mirana, or 1.0 BAT earthshaker, or some crazy passive combo that annihilates everyone.

I'm sure 8/10 players most games do the initial ability picks, and immediately wish they could go try a new game because they didn't get anything great.
aka Siyko
SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
February 03 2014 19:39 GMT
#305
On February 04 2014 04:18 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote:
I tried the aftershock goo combo once. Had leshrac with split earth and lesh ult as well. Learned that toggling lesh ult doesn't trigger aftershock... And as soon as they noticed what was going on they just ff'd me down every fight. I'd almost always get the person I stuck on, but the other 4 would just throw every nuke they had my way. Went a tank build and still couldn't survive T.T

And then my team had generally useless spells so they couldn't exactly clean up =p


It kinda weird how aftershock work because toggling Mana shield does proc Fiery Soul. Thus you would expect that aftershock give similar affect when toggling ability like lesh ulti but it doesnt :/. Same can be said about voodoo restoration which doesnt proc after shock as well. I am not sure if they also proc fiery soul.
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 03 2014 19:40 GMT
#306
On February 04 2014 04:33 fdsdfg wrote:
Usually heroes are either incredibly overpowered
Thats the whole point
On February 04 2014 04:33 fdsdfg wrote:
Most all games I've been in have had a laning phase centered around 'oh I didn't know he had that',
Yeah its hilarious
On February 04 2014 04:33 fdsdfg wrote:
into a lategame with a 950 range Mirana,
Hows that different from a 950 range sniper?
On February 04 2014 04:33 fdsdfg wrote:
or 1.0 BAT earthshaker,
... So?
On February 04 2014 04:33 fdsdfg wrote:
or some crazy passive combo that annihilates everyone.
this is the best kind because it means somebody successfully assembled megatron or whatever. GJ to them!
On February 04 2014 04:33 fdsdfg wrote:
I'm sure 8/10 players most games do the initial ability picks, and immediately wish they could go try a new game because they didn't get anything great.
Its true, 8/10 players are pretty fucking stupid and can't figure out how to draft sweet-ass heroes.

I mean, yeah the game isn't infinitely deep like real dota but its got enough replayability that its always good for a laugh IMO.
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xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
February 03 2014 19:41 GMT
#307
On February 04 2014 04:39 SheaR619 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 04:18 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote:
I tried the aftershock goo combo once. Had leshrac with split earth and lesh ult as well. Learned that toggling lesh ult doesn't trigger aftershock... And as soon as they noticed what was going on they just ff'd me down every fight. I'd almost always get the person I stuck on, but the other 4 would just throw every nuke they had my way. Went a tank build and still couldn't survive T.T

And then my team had generally useless spells so they couldn't exactly clean up =p


It kinda weird how aftershock work because toggling Mana shield does proc Fiery Soul. Thus you would expect that aftershock give similar affect when toggling ability like lesh ulti but it doesnt :/. Same can be said about voodoo restoration which doesnt proc after shock as well. I am not sure if they also proc fiery soul.


When ability draft was released, aftershock DID work with toggles, and it was stupid. Valve quickly patched it out.
Sycamore
Profile Joined January 2013
204 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 21:05:06
February 03 2014 19:48 GMT
#308
Just played against a Witch Doctor with Blink, Rocket Barrage, Frostbite and Freezing Field.

Holy shit that was cruel..he blinks on to you ---> dead

later he added an aghanims to the fun


edit:

Hahaha the enemy team just allowed me to get zeus' passive, afterschock and quill spray on bristleback. Didnt even need to skill my ultimate until when I had to ; D Buy BKB, run into enemy team, spam W and have fun.
Ban the Tree 2013
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
February 03 2014 21:21 GMT
#309
i'm with sn0_man if you play RAD, just play for the hell of it and to have fun and understand that sometimes youg et good shit, sometimes you don't, but if you plan ahead, you won't be completely useless. but people normally only queue once. don't get it. pick something awful. lose to a melee with ranged orb, or ranged with melee passives, and immediately rage/quit THIS IS DUMB, and never come back. fine by me. get out. then finally i can play with more people who actually want to playt he mode. it's for fun.

look at this game. we got crushed hard by lich carry, but it was hilarious cuz we ALL knew (all pubs) as a team that this mode is meant for laughs and potential for greatness. not the other way around. everytime we'd get a kill we'd laugh our asses off at how bad we were.

http://dotabuff.com/matches/497865559
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 21:53:17
February 03 2014 21:52 GMT
#310
Nature's Guise is so much fun in Ability Draft.

Nature's Guise + Magic Missile + Thunder Strike was dreamy since both nukes do over the standard 300 damage and have pretty managable cooldowns. It's so much fun just nuking teams without revealing yourself then watching them all scramble around trying to figure out where you are.
Logo
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
February 03 2014 22:14 GMT
#311
On February 04 2014 06:52 Logo wrote:
Nature's Guise is so much fun in Ability Draft.

Nature's Guise + Magic Missile + Thunder Strike was dreamy since both nukes do over the standard 300 damage and have pretty managable cooldowns. It's so much fun just nuking teams without revealing yourself then watching them all scramble around trying to figure out where you are.


Omg i just thought of a hilarious combo. Nature's guise, tinker rockets, essence aura, rearm. guerrilla warefare at it's finest. Endless stream of rockets from the trees.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 03 2014 22:22 GMT
#312
The dream is Enchant Totem + Jinada + Tidebringer + Grow on Treant. 3k AoE crits with no items at level 16. If you get aghs and phaseboots, you're doing like 6k aoe damage because of double cleave.

You're never gonna get all those abilities together obviously, but still.
super gg
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
February 03 2014 22:36 GMT
#313
On February 04 2014 07:22 cecek wrote:
The dream is Enchant Totem + Jinada + Tidebringer + Grow on Treant. 3k AoE crits with no items at level 16. If you get aghs and phaseboots, you're doing like 6k aoe damage because of double cleave.

You're never gonna get all those abilities together obviously, but still.


Empower on your team. Triple cleave + damage =o
Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
February 03 2014 23:00 GMT
#314
Hook + rocket barrage is fun
Whats the altitude?
Veliel
Profile Joined October 2010
18 Posts
February 03 2014 23:29 GMT
#315
I think the gamemode is really fun, even though i screwed up a few heros horribly. Luna with fury swipes and eclipse = no ult and no lifesteal :/ Didn't get any of the gg combos yet.

But my tendency to overpick passives and build for lategame led to hilarious ursa with no active skill (well ult can be). Fury swipes + corrosive skin + curse of avernus + borrowed time. Turns out everything you touch dies gets permaslowed and dies pretty quicklick, you dont die yourself and roshan is pretty easy
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
February 03 2014 23:56 GMT
#316
Any full-out woods builds?

I've done a Drow with Enchant + webs + Drow Aura + Drow Ult... and it worked, but mostly because of webs rather than effective use of the woods.
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
GtC
Profile Joined August 2013
United States546 Posts
February 04 2014 00:30 GMT
#317
If greater bash does damage based on ms, would having chrono or thirst massively increase your bash damage output?
The Turtle Moves
GentleDrill
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom672 Posts
February 04 2014 00:39 GMT
#318
On February 04 2014 09:30 GtC wrote:
If greater bash does damage based on ms, would having chrono or thirst massively increase your bash damage output?


Well 40% of 1000 is 400 so yeah those are some big fuckin' bashes.

You've also made me wonder how stacking bashes are programmed in Dota 2. You can't have them normally because bash heroes just can't purchase basher. The best you can do is get MKB (which I believe stacks fully with everything, including itself, meaning you can proc a minibash on the same attack as another bash, a Headshot, or another MKB minibash).

Also I had a Bane with Chrono, Void bash, and Strafe in a game today. He bought Shadowblade and Mjollnir. It was fucking terrifying.
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 04:15:12
February 04 2014 04:13 GMT
#319
On February 04 2014 09:39 GentleDrill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 09:30 GtC wrote:
If greater bash does damage based on ms, would having chrono or thirst massively increase your bash damage output?


Well 40% of 1000 is 400 so yeah those are some big fuckin' bashes.

You've also made me wonder how stacking bashes are programmed in Dota 2. You can't have them normally because bash heroes just can't purchase basher. The best you can do is get MKB (which I believe stacks fully with everything, including itself, meaning you can proc a minibash on the same attack as another bash, a Headshot, or another MKB minibash).

Also I had a Bane with Chrono, Void bash, and Strafe in a game today. He bought Shadowblade and Mjollnir. It was fucking terrifying.


I had a void the other day who had slardar bash + time lock.

He did have a really high proc chance, but he was still kind of useless because he gave up all his other skills to do it and had no mobility. I'd say it's not really worth it unless you can get a blink and an AS steroid as well.

I would assume they stack the way any other proc stacks; both roll and if they proc at the same time the one with higher damage triggers.
ishida66
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan74 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 05:59:27
February 04 2014 05:28 GMT
#320
I drafted WraithNight with bloodrage, Vampiric Aura, Berseker Blood and Ressurection. No Keyboard Playstyle. Also web + pudge hook, shit coming out of nowhere.
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