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RolleMcKnolle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany1054 Posts
February 03 2014 12:17 GMT
#281
On February 03 2014 16:10 Aldrovandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2014 08:56 synapse wrote:
aftershock + quill spray mmmmmm so delicious


Aftershock+nasal goo is even better. 1.5 second stun on a 1.5 second cooldown.

strangely it didnt work out for me. Stun ended before goo was off cd. And not by a small margin. But maybe i was just too slow...
run.at.me
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia550 Posts
February 03 2014 12:19 GMT
#282
why are half the heroes never drafted? doom? TB? seems as tho its always the likes of viper, enchant, eartshaker, sven etc and maybe 25 others

Razyda
Profile Joined March 2013
895 Posts
February 03 2014 12:19 GMT
#283
I would like to see a tree with alchemist ulti, naix rage, blink, and some kind of bash, like slardar or headshot (dunno if headshot would work on melee though).
msl
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany477 Posts
February 03 2014 12:34 GMT
#284
Played Tinker with Aphotic Shield, Poison Sting, Void and Bane Ult. YOU CANT RUN!
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
February 03 2014 13:09 GMT
#285
On February 03 2014 21:19 run.at.me wrote:
why are half the heroes never drafted? doom? TB? seems as tho its always the likes of viper, enchant, eartshaker, sven etc and maybe 25 others



Heroes with skills that require more than four keys are excluded. I assume this is to stop people ending up with skillsets that need D and F twice.

I'm not sure why TB isn't in. Probably just because he's new.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
February 03 2014 13:52 GMT
#286
Oh also a friend of mine made the classic ultimate pick mistake.

He first picked Luna ult and didn't have back to back picks. Of course the other team immediately took Lucent Beam away from him.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
February 03 2014 13:53 GMT
#287
On February 03 2014 21:19 Razyda wrote:
I would like to see a tree with alchemist ulti, naix rage, blink, and some kind of bash, like slardar or headshot (dunno if headshot would work on melee though).


You're better off with viper or drow orb on Tree, it's brutal.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
February 03 2014 14:10 GMT
#288
On February 03 2014 22:52 -Celestial- wrote:
Oh also a friend of mine made the classic ultimate pick mistake.

He first picked Luna ult and didn't have back to back picks. Of course the other team immediately took Lucent Beam away from him.


Ha, I was just gonna ask why you'd need Lucent Beam. I had no idea the ult was based on that skill. I learned so much about the game playing AD already.
kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
February 03 2014 14:24 GMT
#289
Makes you wonder why he didn't just pick lucent beam to begin with. The only other option after that is that someone else takes a useless ultimate or you get the ultimate for free.
I speak fluent sarcasm.
SeakayKu
Profile Joined October 2010
United States128 Posts
February 03 2014 14:25 GMT
#290
on any str hero, best on chaos knight (starting moving speed 325)
pretty op since pubs could not handle much of invisibility

earth shaker's totem
kunkka's tidebringer
bounty hunter's jinada
sven's strength of god

item build phase boot, yasha, blink dagger

other notable combos
aftershock is crazy good with blink, and works good with no cd ult, i.e. chakram
laguna blade, lightning bolt, sacrafice, decrepify for early game
It's an Art and I hope I can see beautifully fought matches.
robaq
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland186 Posts
February 03 2014 14:31 GMT
#291
Speaking of broken stuff, Mana Shield and Split Shot toggling is working with Fiery Soul and Essence Aura. Does it proc Aftershock and Static Field or was it patched?
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Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
February 03 2014 14:56 GMT
#292
^^ Dunno, but I do know it procs overcharge. Played a windrunner with mana shield + overcharge, it was impossible to lane against.

Also, one of the better combos I've seen : Tiny with Bladefury, Rot, and Razor ult. If he'd have somehow got sticky napalm too... D:
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 15:38:00
February 03 2014 15:36 GMT
#293
Ranged tidebringer is very close to the most busted thing possible in this game. Adding enchant totem is just outright unfair

The only thing that denied me my 1-hit rampage was reincarnation

Also I'm 1-0 Lifetime vs the Ran/DTB stack in this mode. Ez.
E:
On February 03 2014 23:31 robaq wrote:
Speaking of broken stuff, Mana Shield and Split Shot toggling is working with Fiery Soul and Essence Aura. Does it proc Aftershock and Static Field or was it patched?

Those 2 were patched to not be procced by 0-mana toggles although I think WD heal and other mana-costed toggles still work.
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run.at.me
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia550 Posts
February 03 2014 15:52 GMT
#294
On February 03 2014 23:25 SeakayKu wrote:
on any str hero, best on chaos knight (starting moving speed 325)
pretty op since pubs could not handle much of invisibility

earth shaker's totem
kunkka's tidebringer
bounty hunter's jinada
sven's strength of god

item build phase boot, yasha, blink dagger

other notable combos
aftershock is crazy good with blink, and works good with no cd ult, i.e. chakram
laguna blade, lightning bolt, sacrafice, decrepify for early game


I'm getting over the what-if builds, unless they change ability draft back to how LoD was, it will never happen. You'd be lucky to get 2 of the skills you wanted.

Ability draft is trash currently, waiting on them to build on it.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 03 2014 15:57 GMT
#295
Yeah its hard to get some of the more busted combos without others scooping up the abilities you want (and even just having them all in the pool tbh) but I did get Tidebringer + enchant totem (see above) once and it totally worked. Key is to be ranged though. Sure god's strength woulda been nice but Jinada doesn't even feel that relevant. Some other guy stole my jinada/walrus punch in the draft I mentioned and in the end I wasn't even mad.

BTW builds based around bash on ranged heroes actually suck in my experience. It feels really powerful until you realize that it only works if you are miles ahead in which case anything would have worked. Only attempt if you can secure windranger ulti (for the rosh permabash )
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Gowerly
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom916 Posts
February 03 2014 16:01 GMT
#296
Bash on ranged heroes, maybe, but we had a game with a clinkz that managed to get fury swipes and LC heal (there was also overpower and strafe to choose from, so many +Attack speed spells!) and he just ripped through everyone.
Ranged fury swipes is so ridiculously powerful.
I will reduce you to a series of numbers.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 03 2014 16:05 GMT
#297
Its funny how much better LC heal is when compared to shit like strafe lol.

Also clinkz is a terrible base model (Awful animation, stat gain, damage, everything except range) but obviously you can still make a good hero out of him.
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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
February 03 2014 16:21 GMT
#298
On February 03 2014 23:10 Mandalor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2014 22:52 -Celestial- wrote:
Oh also a friend of mine made the classic ultimate pick mistake.

He first picked Luna ult and didn't have back to back picks. Of course the other team immediately took Lucent Beam away from him.


Ha, I was just gonna ask why you'd need Lucent Beam. I had no idea the ult was based on that skill. I learned so much about the game playing AD already.


It happens in normal games too sometimes when you get a Luna who gets aura+glaives then wonders why her ult isn't doing anything. But AD just takes it to a whole other level with potentially being unable to ever make it do anything.


On February 03 2014 23:24 kaztah wrote:
Makes you wonder why he didn't just pick lucent beam to begin with. The only other option after that is that someone else takes a useless ultimate or you get the ultimate for free.


I know. I don't think he realised that you need Lucent for it to work.



They really, really badly need to add in chat though. Its really hard to organise unless you're all on mics. :-\

As far as this Clinkz thing goes. Honestly I've always hated Clinkz's attack animation. Frankly I can last hit better on Lina than I can on Clinkz, even with her insane windup time.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
February 03 2014 17:01 GMT
#299
On February 03 2014 21:13 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2014 13:59 Fumanchu wrote:
Tidebringer, Jinada, enchant totem, grow. Easily the best possible combination you could hope for. Especially once you get shadowblade.

Level 11 you auto crit over 1000 in a splash every 6 seconds.

except you cant proc enchant totem

?
are you thinking of aftershock or smth
or is there some interaction with tide/jinada/enchant totem I'm not aware of
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
February 03 2014 18:37 GMT
#300
enchant totem gives you +400% dmg every 6 seconds
get a blademail to counter...
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