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kpierre150
Profile Joined June 2011
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 17:21:19
June 26 2012 17:19 GMT
#3101
I will look in to the Leopold, but are the stabilizers on the Leopold like the steelseries 6gv2? I've had that one and they feel a bit too mushy. But right now my choices are down to the Das silent and the leopold otaku.
And one last question, on the das and leopold, will the keys feel glossy on them? Not the outer layer of the keyboard, just the keys.
DG.Zeya
Profile Joined January 2012
United States39 Posts
June 26 2012 17:44 GMT
#3102
Is it at all possible to use a Ducky keyboard with a Mac computer? I've been getting mixed messages from sites. I'm asking, is there anyone that uses a Mac and a Ducky keyboard?

Also, how are Ducky boards with blue switches? nice?
Lu_e
Profile Joined December 2011
United States95 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 18:14:52
June 26 2012 18:12 GMT
#3103
kpierre the das may be slightly better for glossing over since I think they are not just standard ABS plastic which most companies use. ABS will always gloss up on the most used keys.

PBT plastic better avoids glossing, you can always replace keycaps on either...

DG.Z I believe you can just use custom drivers? I saw that mentioned on geekhack.org forums. You could always ask there yourself Not necessary but; coupled with mac legend keycaps you would never know it was a pc keyboard. (finding led keycaps can be tricky but more are coming out.)
Maitolasi
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland441 Posts
June 26 2012 18:25 GMT
#3104
Just got my Qpad MK-50 with Cherry MX Reds in the mail today and I'm so happy with it. The keyboard feels really solid and the buttons are just so smooth to press. Can't help but smile even while writing this post

Since it's my first mechanical keyboard I can't comment on how it fares against others but it seems great for the price (80€).
Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
June 26 2012 19:14 GMT
#3105
I got the Blackwidow standard keyboard this past weekend and its really good. But my wpm was insane on my ergonomic keyboard and now its terrible. though I guess that will change in time.
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
June 26 2012 20:00 GMT
#3106
I hope Filco or Ducky releases a tenkeyless keyboard with PBT keycaps and green backlighting. Maybe even with an option to change backlighting colour. Maybe im just dreaming.

I know there are tenkeyless Filco's but not with PBT caps and backlighting. That would be so sweet.
kpierre150
Profile Joined June 2011
11 Posts
June 27 2012 02:12 GMT
#3107
On June 27 2012 05:00 Waterflow wrote:
I hope Filco or Ducky releases a tenkeyless keyboard with PBT keycaps and green backlighting. Maybe even with an option to change backlighting colour. Maybe im just dreaming.

I know there are tenkeyless Filco's but not with PBT caps and backlighting. That would be so sweet.


I'm pretty sure you can order a filco/ducky tenkeyless keyboard and order a full set up PBT keycaps. I may be wrong though.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
June 27 2012 02:19 GMT
#3108
So I've been hearing that the Ducky Shine's media keys don't work with Foobar. Anyone here who can verify?

I've been looking to get a Ducky Shine with red switches but the media key incompatibility with Foobar is kind of a dealbreaker for me.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 05:04:05
June 27 2012 05:01 GMT
#3109
On June 27 2012 02:19 kpierre150 wrote:
I will look in to the Leopold, but are the stabilizers on the Leopold like the steelseries 6gv2? I've had that one and they feel a bit too mushy. But right now my choices are down to the Das silent and the leopold otaku.
And one last question, on the das and leopold, will the keys feel glossy on them? Not the outer layer of the keyboard, just the keys.


Yes Leopold use the same stabilisers as 6gv2, ducky does as well. The cherry stabilisers.

Das, Filco, Rosewill and the CM qfr use costar stabilisers which are less mushy, but harder to remove keys.

I don't think any keys come feeling glossy, at least I have never heard of any. Though some of my Filcos keys are on the way to feeling glossy.

On June 27 2012 05:00 Waterflow wrote:
I hope Filco or Ducky releases a tenkeyless keyboard with PBT keycaps and green backlighting. Maybe even with an option to change backlighting colour. Maybe im just dreaming.

I know there are tenkeyless Filco's but not with PBT caps and backlighting. That would be so sweet.


Drop the cash on a deck legend, pretty sure they come in green backlit.
Finn_
Profile Joined April 2012
50 Posts
June 27 2012 06:22 GMT
#3110
http://www.youtube.com/finnstarcraft
If you were thinking about BlackWidow watch this video great details!
yay i love stream
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
June 27 2012 07:16 GMT
#3111
Geekhack got hacked into. God damn bastards ruining our lives.
The best Flash meme ever: http://imgur.com/zquoK
Nyarly
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1030 Posts
June 27 2012 09:24 GMT
#3112
Hmm, what about roccat isku + ?

My mouse is a roccat kone+ and i like the design of roccat isku but seeing this : http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Pro_gear
makes me wonder if it's a good idea..
None of them have kone+ or isku..
Are they that bad ?

I like to have media keys and 1-5 macro keys too. I would have chose the steelseries 6gv2 if it weren't for them.

Also, do they usually need a power supply ?

Thanks!
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 10:59:49
June 27 2012 10:48 GMT
#3113
@Nyarly:

I do not know your mouse, but for the technical side of moving your mouse pointer across the screen and clicking stuff, it either works perfect or it does not. Your own opinion about your mouse is probably not any worse than anyone's. If you do not feel any problems, do not make many mistakes clicking on stuff that you feel are not your fault, then your mouse is probably alright to use and just as good as a mouse from the progamer gear list you linked. If you think your mouse works correctly, decide by the shape or weight or whatever else you like or do not like about your mouse.

About your keyboard, there is basically only the Razer Blackwidow as a mechanical keyboard with macro keys, I think. If you try a mechanical keyboard and get addicted to the feel of the keys compared to a normal keyboard, then you should think again about the macro keys. Do you really need them? If you only play at home, you can use software like AutoHotkey to reprogram all keys on a keyboard, and can probably live without macro keys. You could do stuff like disable Caps Lock, and instead use the Caps Lock key for switching between two layers of keys on your keyboard: the first layer making the keyboard work like it does normally, and a second layer with macros on a bunch of keys.

If you want to go to LAN tournaments, you are not allowed to use macros that are more complicated than a simple key press. If you only use such simple macros, you can simply rebind the keys inside SC2 and there is no difference in your performance between keyboards with and without macro keys.

EDIT: It seems Tt eSPORTS sells a keyboard with twelve macro keys and black MX switches.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 11:01:34
June 27 2012 10:58 GMT
#3114
On June 27 2012 18:24 Nyarly wrote:
Hmm, what about roccat isku + ?

My mouse is a roccat kone+ and i like the design of roccat isku but seeing this : http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Pro_gear
makes me wonder if it's a good idea..
None of them have kone+ or isku..
Are they that bad ?

I like to have media keys and 1-5 macro keys too. I would have chose the steelseries 6gv2 if it weren't for them.

Also, do they usually need a power supply ?

Thanks!


The roccat is not mechanical, have no idea if it is any good.

Mechanicals with macros and media keys (some dont have dedicated media keys):
Blackwidow
Corsair k90
TT meka g unit
Coolermaster storm trigger

I don't think any keyboard needs a power supply, they get their power from usb.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 27 2012 11:03 GMT
#3115
The Corsair K90 is not mechanical on all keys. The macro keys and the F1-F12 keys are rubber dome.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 11:04:58
June 27 2012 11:04 GMT
#3116
On June 27 2012 20:03 Ropid wrote:
The Corsair K90 is not mechanical on all keys. The macro keys and the F1-F12 keys are rubber dome.


Good point, as well as the insert, delete etc cluster I think.
Nyarly
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1030 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 12:03:32
June 27 2012 11:37 GMT
#3117
I was thinking about buying the isku keyboard because i already have the mouse (they do stuff together and i love the kone+), but i thought it was a mechanical keyboard aswell. That's the first thing i want, a mechanical keyboard..

Macro keys would be for WoW only so i don't really need them that hard and i guess media keys can be replaced by something else.

Blackwidow is a bit too expensive imo. I didn't know about Tt Esport keyboards, they look really nice and i'd like to buy stuff from them, to thank them for sponsoring White-ra.
So i guess it will be either a Tt Esport keyboard (meka g-unit looks fabulous) or Steelseries 6gv2 (best idea ever to remove the window key) after all
Also, i'm quite surprised that MMA uses a Sc2 razer marauder keyboard, was it a sponsor thing or is it really suitable for a proplayer ?
Thank you all !


Edit : dumb question : MX means mechanical ?
Edit 2 : i read this review about the g-unit http://www.lesnumeriques.com/clavier/tt-esports-meka-unit-p11948/test.html
It's quite horrible, they say the audio/microphone jack are the worst of all the keyboards they tryed and that the anti-ghosting system isn't that good aswell. Also, there is no full backlighting.
Damnit, he looked so nice
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 11:48:08
June 27 2012 11:46 GMT
#3118
On June 27 2012 20:37 Nyarly wrote:
I was thinking about buying the isku keyboard because i already have the mouse (they do stuff together and i love the kone+), but i thought it was a mechanical keyboard aswell. That's the first thing i want, a mechanical keyboard..

Macro keys would be for WoW only so i don't really need them that hard and i guess media keys can be replaced by something else.

Blackwidow is a bit too expensive imo. I didn't know about Tt Esport keyboards, they look really nice and i'd like to buy stuff from them, to thank them for sponsoring White-ra.
So i guess it will be either a Tt Esport keyboard or Steelseries 6gv2 (best idea ever to remove the window key) after all
Also, i'm quite surprised that MMA uses a Sc2 razer marauder keyboard, was it a sponsor thing or is it really suitable for a proplayer ?
Thank you all !


TT boards have a good reputation but they use black switches which are fairly heavy, which means you make less mistakes but it can be tiring, depends on the person.

The marauder is apparently friggin terrible and quite expensive, but guess who sponsors slayers? So quite a few slayers members use the marauder, I guess they just throw it in the bin and get a new one when it breaks.

Cherry MX are the most popular mechanical switch. No idea what the MX stands for.
Nyarly
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1030 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 12:37:59
June 27 2012 12:35 GMT
#3119
Everytime I check a new brand I see awesome keyboards, then 5 minutes later i see a bad review or something that really makes me want to search for another one
I'm not surprised about the razer marauder :p
About the Meka g-unit, the review i read was so bad i don't think i'm going to try it.

So, razer is out (price), ttesport is out (bad review), roccat is out (not mechanical), steelseries 6gv2 is meh-why-not.
Coolermaster's are nice, a bit expensive too but really nice.
Corsair's i don't really know what to think, their pictures have different layouts but there's nothing to chose one on their website, so we don't know what layout we'll have ..
Qpad's looks the best but i'm afraid the prices will be high..

So i'm thinking Steelseries if i find bad stuff about every other keyboards. Qpad if they're cheaper than expected and coolermaster if i can raise my budget (70-90€ actually).

What would be your choice ?
Redmori
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6 Posts
June 27 2012 13:08 GMT
#3120
On June 26 2012 18:28 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 14:23 kpierre150 wrote:
After trying all switches, my favorites have been brown and blue, but i'm not sure about red, since i believe mine was defective. But I believe that brown will be the best for me, does anyone know which is the best cherry mx brown mechanical keyboard out there? I don't care about extra features at all, and I would prefer blank keycaps.
My two choices have been:

Das keyboard ultimate silent

and

Cooler master quickfire pro

I will really appreciate a reply, it's a hard decision for me and I just need to know which one is better quality and will feel better.


Don't get the CM pro, the quickfire rapid is the only CM board that seems to be quality atm.


Could you explain why the CM pro isn't a good choice? Since the board is new and a little bit more expensive then the CM rapid. I cannot really understand why they would make a worse keyboard for a higher price.
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