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On April 27 2012 06:54 Halure wrote:
How challenging is it to overclock a 2500k? I've never done an overclock before and I'm planning on getting a 3570k for my new build so I'm hoping that the two overclock very similarly. Are there any good guides for first time OCers?
You enter bios, change a number, boot, test (Prime95)
Check voltages (CPUID or HWMonitor), set your own voltage (BIOS).. check temps.. Done.
On April 27 2012 06:56 Zushen wrote:
well i did specify what i was going to be using it for instead of asking a broad question like "what is a good AMD processor"
AMD is terrible, but I guess an X6 1100T? I wouldn't get a Bulldozer.
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So I used installed an old HDD I had into my computer and the computer could start up fine. I had to install a lot of hardware however. Though now I have one last problem I have to tackle: my graphics card. The broken HDD I had I could play WC3 and BW just fine. Though now I can only play BW, and WC3 is unable to start. I noticed that my graphics card's memory is 64MB, which is strange because I could have sworn it was 256mb or 512mb before with my old HDD (I would guess 256mb). If it had been 64MB before I would have not been able to play WC3 before with my old HDD. I was average 60 FPS in Dota, and now I can't even start it. Any ideas?
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On April 27 2012 13:50 Sovano wrote:
So I used installed an old HDD I had into my computer and the computer could start up fine. I had to install a lot of hardware however. Though now I have one last problem I have to tackle: my graphics card. The broken HDD I had I could play WC3 and BW just fine. Though now I can only play BW, and WC3 is unable to start. I noticed that my graphics card's memory is 64MB, which is strange because I could have sworn it was 256mb or 512mb before with my old HDD (I would guess 256mb). If it had been 64MB before I would have not been able to play WC3 before with my old HDD. I was average 60 FPS in Dota, and now I can't even start it. Any ideas?
HDD is unlikely to be able to cause such specific issues. Likely you've got corrupted Windows system files/program files, etc. Considering that you've changed out hardware (I'm assuming that's what you mean by "install a lot of hardware", you really need to do a fresh install:
1. Backup date
2. Format the drive
3. Reinstall Windows
4. Install latest version of all drivers.
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On April 27 2012 13:59 TheToast wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 13:50 Sovano wrote:
So I used installed an old HDD I had into my computer and the computer could start up fine. I had to install a lot of hardware however. Though now I have one last problem I have to tackle: my graphics card. The broken HDD I had I could play WC3 and BW just fine. Though now I can only play BW, and WC3 is unable to start. I noticed that my graphics card's memory is 64MB, which is strange because I could have sworn it was 256mb or 512mb before with my old HDD (I would guess 256mb). If it had been 64MB before I would have not been able to play WC3 before with my old HDD. I was average 60 FPS in Dota, and now I can't even start it. Any ideas? HDD is unlikely to be able to cause such specific issues. Likely you've got corrupted Windows system files/program files, etc. Considering that you've changed out hardware (I'm assuming that's what you mean by "install a lot of hardware", you really need to do a fresh install: 1. Backup date 2. Format the drive 3. Reinstall Windows 4. Install latest version of all drivers.
Hm I guess that's worth a shot. I don't have much to back up anyways so that's fine. Though I have to wait till tomorrow since I have to sleep soon. Thanks for the quick response.
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One of my friends have problems with an older computer of his and since I'm the least tech noob out of the two of us I'm trying to help him get it going or at least identify where the problem lies.
When windows (XP) starts up and you get to the login in screen for the users everything looks fine but as soon as you move the mouse or the keyboard the whole screen becomes slighty blurry and then locks a few seconds later. There's no blue screen, you just see a slightly blurry image of the screen you were watching as it locked up with some lines of color across the screen (it's a bit hard to explain but maybe you get the gist of it).
Booting in safe mode works perfectly fine so you can save everything important but I'm not really sure where the problems are. I've uninstalled all the recent programs, run a scandisk, scanned for viruses and done a system restore as well as reinstalled his drivers for his gpu. At first it looked like it might have help as I right after I had done the restore could log into windows and you could to what you normally does but a while later the same thing happened while we were loggin in.
I'm thinking about reinstalling windows to eliminate that aspect but he can't find his windows cd atm. Could it be some hardware failure? What would be the most likely suspect with this kind of problem? The graphics card? Is there something specific you can do while in safe mode?
Thanks.
I don't have all his component specific at the top of my head but the motherboard was Abit falat1ty *something something* with a Core 2 Duo ~1,8ish GHz. His gpu is a nvidia 8800 gs or gt. Nor sure what psu he's got. I can check if need-be.
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On April 27 2012 19:57 nam nam wrote:
One of my friends have problems with an older computer of his and since I'm the least tech noob out of the two of us I'm trying to help him get it going or at least identify where the problem lies.
When windows (XP) starts up and you get to the login in screen for the users everything looks fine but as soon as you move the mouse or the keyboard the whole screen becomes slighty blurry and then locks a few seconds later. There's no blue screen, you just see a slightly blurry image of the screen you were watching as it locked up with some lines of color across the screen (it's a bit hard to explain but maybe you get the gist of it).
Booting in safe mode works perfectly fine so you can save everything important but I'm not really sure where the problems are. I've uninstalled all the recent programs, run a scandisk, scanned for viruses and done a system restore as well as reinstalled his drivers for his gpu. At first it looked like it might have help as I right after I had done the restore could log into windows and you could to what you normally does but a while later the same thing happened while we were loggin in.
I'm thinking about reinstalling windows to eliminate that aspect but he can't find his windows cd atm. Could it be some hardware failure? What would be the most likely suspect with this kind of problem? The graphics card? Is there something specific you can do while in safe mode?
Thanks.
I don't have all his component specific at the top of my head but the motherboard was Abit falat1ty *something something* with a Core 2 Duo ~1,8ish GHz. His gpu is a nvidia 8800 gs or gt. Nor sure what psu he's got. I can check if need-be.
If it works in Safe Mode, that would imply there's some issue with either a non-critical service which would be disabled during a safemode boot, or a driver.
You can try a Window's reinstall, but my suspicion is that there's an issue with the GPU. Booting in safe mode would disable the driver, which would force the video to a 640x480 or 800x600 maximum with no 3D acceleration/directx/open GL. Normally I'd say driver issue, but you've tried that already. My guess is there's some issue with the GPU that's causing the system to hang when the GPU attempts to display higher resolution or utilize 3d acceleration.
The only other thing I can suggest is take a look at the system event viewer in Safemode and see if it recorded the system errors. Right click on My Computer and go to Manage. In computer management go to the left side menu and select Event Viewer and then System Events, look for any red error messages.
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On April 27 2012 23:00 TheToast wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 19:57 nam nam wrote:
One of my friends have problems with an older computer of his and since I'm the least tech noob out of the two of us I'm trying to help him get it going or at least identify where the problem lies.
When windows (XP) starts up and you get to the login in screen for the users everything looks fine but as soon as you move the mouse or the keyboard the whole screen becomes slighty blurry and then locks a few seconds later. There's no blue screen, you just see a slightly blurry image of the screen you were watching as it locked up with some lines of color across the screen (it's a bit hard to explain but maybe you get the gist of it).
Booting in safe mode works perfectly fine so you can save everything important but I'm not really sure where the problems are. I've uninstalled all the recent programs, run a scandisk, scanned for viruses and done a system restore as well as reinstalled his drivers for his gpu. At first it looked like it might have help as I right after I had done the restore could log into windows and you could to what you normally does but a while later the same thing happened while we were loggin in.
I'm thinking about reinstalling windows to eliminate that aspect but he can't find his windows cd atm. Could it be some hardware failure? What would be the most likely suspect with this kind of problem? The graphics card? Is there something specific you can do while in safe mode?
Thanks.
I don't have all his component specific at the top of my head but the motherboard was Abit falat1ty *something something* with a Core 2 Duo ~1,8ish GHz. His gpu is a nvidia 8800 gs or gt. Nor sure what psu he's got. I can check if need-be. If it works in Safe Mode, that would imply there's some issue with either a non-critical service which would be disabled during a safemode boot, or a driver. You can try a Window's reinstall, but my suspicion is that there's an issue with the GPU. Booting in safe mode would disable the driver, which would force the video to a 640x480 or 800x600 maximum with no 3D acceleration/directx/open GL. Normally I'd say driver issue, but you've tried that already. My guess is there's some issue with the GPU that's causing the system to hang when the GPU attempts to display higher resolution or utilize 3d acceleration. The only other thing I can suggest is take a look at the system event viewer in Safemode and see if it recorded the system errors. Right click on My Computer and go to Manage. In computer management go to the left side menu and select Event Viewer and then System Events, look for any red error messages.
Thanks, I'll explore those things when I get the chance. Maybe I could try putting my gpu in his computer but I'd probably have to change the psu as well (I have a gtx 570 and his psu was something in the 300W area, I'll have to check to be sure)
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On April 27 2012 22:50 Nabutso wrote:i5 2500k hands down.
Ah, turns out I have an AMD motherboard, so the i5 is out the window  ..
Which of those 2 would you recommend for gaming+streaming? (If you have another processor I didn't mention, I'll go with that.. Just need something under $250-275... I currently have a AMD Phenom II x4 945 3.00GHz
EDIT -- Turns on I do not have a Xeon compatible motherboard.. So Is the AMD FX 8150 worth the upgrade from my AMD Phenom II x4 945 3.00GHz? Only decent AMD processor I could find for under $275 or so.
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On April 28 2012 03:36 -Napkin wrote:Ah, turns out I have an AMD motherboard, so the i5 is out the window .. Which of those 2 would you recommend for gaming+streaming? (If you have another processor I didn't mention, I'll go with that.. Just need something under $250-275... I currently have a AMD Phenom II x4 945 3.00GHz
You're not going to significantly upgrade without buying an Intel motherboard, most likely. Knowing WHAT AMD motherboard you have would help, but if you don't want to change to a functional platform, IF your board can support it, swap to a Ph2 x6. Better than Bulldozer anyways.
An x6 would help you stream, with similar gaming performance.
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On April 28 2012 03:40 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 03:36 -Napkin wrote:On April 27 2012 22:50 Nabutso wrote:i5 2500k hands down. Ah, turns out I have an AMD motherboard, so the i5 is out the window .. Which of those 2 would you recommend for gaming+streaming? (If you have another processor I didn't mention, I'll go with that.. Just need something under $250-275... I currently have a AMD Phenom II x4 945 3.00GHz You're not going to significantly upgrade without buying an Intel motherboard, most likely. Knowing WHAT AMD motherboard you have would help, but if you don't want to change to a functional platform, IF your board can support it, swap to a Ph2 x6. Better than Bulldozer anyways. An x6 would help you stream, with similar gaming performance.
I have the FOXCONN 2AB1
http://www.findlaptopdriver.com/foxconn-motherboard-2ab1-specs-12242010h37/
All my specs - http://i47.tinypic.com/28cilbp.png
Hmm.. odd it says I have a SATA3 Driver but it doesn't list that it supports it on the website.
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On April 28 2012 03:36 -Napkin wrote:Ah, turns out I have an AMD motherboard, so the i5 is out the window .. Which of those 2 would you recommend for gaming+streaming? (If you have another processor I didn't mention, I'll go with that.. Just need something under $250-275... I currently have a AMD Phenom II x4 945 3.00GHz EDIT -- Turns on I do not have a Xeon compatible motherboard.. So Is the AMD FX 8150 worth the upgrade from my AMD Phenom II x4 945 3.00GHz? Only decent AMD processor I could find for under $275 or so.
Save your money and replace the motherboard when you can. Really not a whole lot of room to go up from a x4 945 within the AM3 socket. You could look at getting an X6, but realistically it's not going to provide that big of a leap in performance.
-edit: godamnit JH, ninja'ing again...
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On April 28 2012 03:42 -Napkin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 03:40 JingleHell wrote:On April 28 2012 03:36 -Napkin wrote:On April 27 2012 22:50 Nabutso wrote:i5 2500k hands down. Ah, turns out I have an AMD motherboard, so the i5 is out the window .. Which of those 2 would you recommend for gaming+streaming? (If you have another processor I didn't mention, I'll go with that.. Just need something under $250-275... I currently have a AMD Phenom II x4 945 3.00GHz You're not going to significantly upgrade without buying an Intel motherboard, most likely. Knowing WHAT AMD motherboard you have would help, but if you don't want to change to a functional platform, IF your board can support it, swap to a Ph2 x6. Better than Bulldozer anyways. An x6 would help you stream, with similar gaming performance. I have the FOXCONN 2AB1 http://www.findlaptopdriver.com/foxconn-motherboard-2ab1-specs-12242010h37/All my specs - http://i47.tinypic.com/28cilbp.pngHmm.. odd it says I have a SATA3 Driver but it doesn't list that it supports it on the website.
It doesn't support the higher TDP less terrible x6 CPUs, so frankly, don't bother. Save another $50 or so and upgrade to an Intel rig.
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On April 28 2012 03:47 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 03:42 -Napkin wrote:On April 28 2012 03:40 JingleHell wrote:On April 28 2012 03:36 -Napkin wrote:On April 27 2012 22:50 Nabutso wrote:i5 2500k hands down. Ah, turns out I have an AMD motherboard, so the i5 is out the window .. Which of those 2 would you recommend for gaming+streaming? (If you have another processor I didn't mention, I'll go with that.. Just need something under $250-275... I currently have a AMD Phenom II x4 945 3.00GHz You're not going to significantly upgrade without buying an Intel motherboard, most likely. Knowing WHAT AMD motherboard you have would help, but if you don't want to change to a functional platform, IF your board can support it, swap to a Ph2 x6. Better than Bulldozer anyways. An x6 would help you stream, with similar gaming performance. I have the FOXCONN 2AB1 http://www.findlaptopdriver.com/foxconn-motherboard-2ab1-specs-12242010h37/All my specs - http://i47.tinypic.com/28cilbp.pngHmm.. odd it says I have a SATA3 Driver but it doesn't list that it supports it on the website. It doesn't support the higher TDP less terrible x6 CPUs, so frankly, don't bother. Save another $50 or so and upgrade to an Intel rig.
Intel rig?
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On April 28 2012 03:49 -Napkin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 03:47 JingleHell wrote:On April 28 2012 03:42 -Napkin wrote:On April 28 2012 03:40 JingleHell wrote:On April 28 2012 03:36 -Napkin wrote:On April 27 2012 22:50 Nabutso wrote:i5 2500k hands down. Ah, turns out I have an AMD motherboard, so the i5 is out the window .. Which of those 2 would you recommend for gaming+streaming? (If you have another processor I didn't mention, I'll go with that.. Just need something under $250-275... I currently have a AMD Phenom II x4 945 3.00GHz You're not going to significantly upgrade without buying an Intel motherboard, most likely. Knowing WHAT AMD motherboard you have would help, but if you don't want to change to a functional platform, IF your board can support it, swap to a Ph2 x6. Better than Bulldozer anyways. An x6 would help you stream, with similar gaming performance. I have the FOXCONN 2AB1 http://www.findlaptopdriver.com/foxconn-motherboard-2ab1-specs-12242010h37/All my specs - http://i47.tinypic.com/28cilbp.pngHmm.. odd it says I have a SATA3 Driver but it doesn't list that it supports it on the website. It doesn't support the higher TDP less terrible x6 CPUs, so frankly, don't bother. Save another $50 or so and upgrade to an Intel rig. Intel rig?
An intel brand CPU, like an i5? Unless you don't plan to overclock, which is sounding more and more likely, at which point you could do it now with your current budget, with an i5 2400 or 2500 non-k CPU, and an H67 motherboard.
The 2500k is specifically for overclocking, which requires a P67, Z68, or Z77 motherboard, all of which would go outside your budget. H67 has plenty of features for not overclocking, and costs less, which would let you upgrade to a considerably better Intel quad core and stream reasonably.
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On April 28 2012 03:49 -Napkin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 03:47 JingleHell wrote:On April 28 2012 03:42 -Napkin wrote:On April 28 2012 03:40 JingleHell wrote:On April 28 2012 03:36 -Napkin wrote:On April 27 2012 22:50 Nabutso wrote:i5 2500k hands down. Ah, turns out I have an AMD motherboard, so the i5 is out the window .. Which of those 2 would you recommend for gaming+streaming? (If you have another processor I didn't mention, I'll go with that.. Just need something under $250-275... I currently have a AMD Phenom II x4 945 3.00GHz You're not going to significantly upgrade without buying an Intel motherboard, most likely. Knowing WHAT AMD motherboard you have would help, but if you don't want to change to a functional platform, IF your board can support it, swap to a Ph2 x6. Better than Bulldozer anyways. An x6 would help you stream, with similar gaming performance. I have the FOXCONN 2AB1 http://www.findlaptopdriver.com/foxconn-motherboard-2ab1-specs-12242010h37/All my specs - http://i47.tinypic.com/28cilbp.pngHmm.. odd it says I have a SATA3 Driver but it doesn't list that it supports it on the website. It doesn't support the higher TDP less terrible x6 CPUs, so frankly, don't bother. Save another $50 or so and upgrade to an Intel rig. Intel rig?
A computer using an Intel CPU.
-edit: JH, I swear I will end you.
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On April 28 2012 03:56 TheToast wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 03:49 -Napkin wrote:On April 28 2012 03:47 JingleHell wrote:On April 28 2012 03:42 -Napkin wrote:On April 28 2012 03:40 JingleHell wrote:On April 28 2012 03:36 -Napkin wrote:On April 27 2012 22:50 Nabutso wrote:i5 2500k hands down. Ah, turns out I have an AMD motherboard, so the i5 is out the window .. Which of those 2 would you recommend for gaming+streaming? (If you have another processor I didn't mention, I'll go with that.. Just need something under $250-275... I currently have a AMD Phenom II x4 945 3.00GHz You're not going to significantly upgrade without buying an Intel motherboard, most likely. Knowing WHAT AMD motherboard you have would help, but if you don't want to change to a functional platform, IF your board can support it, swap to a Ph2 x6. Better than Bulldozer anyways. An x6 would help you stream, with similar gaming performance. I have the FOXCONN 2AB1 http://www.findlaptopdriver.com/foxconn-motherboard-2ab1-specs-12242010h37/All my specs - http://i47.tinypic.com/28cilbp.pngHmm.. odd it says I have a SATA3 Driver but it doesn't list that it supports it on the website. It doesn't support the higher TDP less terrible x6 CPUs, so frankly, don't bother. Save another $50 or so and upgrade to an Intel rig. Intel rig? A computer using an Intel CPU. -edit: JH, I swear I will end you.
Oops, now I'm in a jam!
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although this is a streaming question its pretty basic. Will reducing the fps rate i stream at help decrease my ingame lag or should i decrease resolution?
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On April 28 2012 08:32 NMx.StyX wrote:
although this is a streaming question its pretty basic. Will reducing the fps rate i stream at help decrease my ingame lag or should i decrease resolution?
That's a complicated question. What's your hardware and stream settings? The answer is most likely, but depending on what you're using, it might be something else entirely. Also, lag tends to refer to network issues. Is that what you mean, or are you abusing the word for something related to FPS?
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