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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 01:11:02
November 26 2011 01:10 GMT
#15261
On November 26 2011 05:51 Drmooose wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Here's my current build. I was going to wait a bit but Micro Center had a great deal today so I picked up the MoBo/i5 today

Processor-Intel i5 2500k
Motherboard- AsRock Z68 Pro3-M
Memory- w/e 8g 1600
Case-??
Power Supply-corsair/seasonic modular
HD-??
Video Card-GeForce GTX 560 Ti (evga/msi)
DVD Drive- w/e

Any recommendations as to what power supply? I guess the biggest thing I don't know much about are SSDs. I have a 1TB external and a few other internals so I can get away with a much smaller SSD than I would normally want. Any good recommendations for 80-120 GB SSDs that aren't completely outrageously priced?

Also how will the MoBo be? I did a bit of research but this is my first build from scratch.


Motherboard is decent.

Samsung 830 64gb for $95 is a good deal: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147502

Intel 320 80gb is also a good deal if you want to deal with mail in rebates, $160 ($80 after mail in rebate) with $10 gift card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167048 There's also the 120gb variant: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167050

If you're looking for a modular power supply, I guess you're looking at a Seasonic X750 for $110: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087 or a X660 for $100: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65390&promoid=105 Being a $10 difference, you might as well just get the X750. If you're looking for something less expensive that's semi modular than the Antec Truepower New 550 (Seasonic manufactured) for $60 (there's a lot of cables attached to it for being a semi modular unit): http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=36262&promoid=1055

Coolermaster 690ii Advanced for $69 ($49 after mail in rebate) is a good option for a case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216


On November 26 2011 09:47 Shikyo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What's the cheapest motherboard compatible with Bulldozers that can overclock a FX-4100 with voltage tweaks? Multiple options if possible.

Anyone know? What chipset?


870, 880, 890, 970, 990
Drmooose
Profile Joined March 2011
United States390 Posts
November 26 2011 01:25 GMT
#15262
On November 26 2011 10:10 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 05:51 Drmooose wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Here's my current build. I was going to wait a bit but Micro Center had a great deal today so I picked up the MoBo/i5 today

Processor-Intel i5 2500k
Motherboard- AsRock Z68 Pro3-M
Memory- w/e 8g 1600
Case-??
Power Supply-corsair/seasonic modular
HD-??
Video Card-GeForce GTX 560 Ti (evga/msi)
DVD Drive- w/e

Any recommendations as to what power supply? I guess the biggest thing I don't know much about are SSDs. I have a 1TB external and a few other internals so I can get away with a much smaller SSD than I would normally want. Any good recommendations for 80-120 GB SSDs that aren't completely outrageously priced?

Also how will the MoBo be? I did a bit of research but this is my first build from scratch.


Motherboard is decent.

Samsung 830 64gb for $95 is a good deal: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147502

Intel 320 80gb is also a good deal if you want to deal with mail in rebates, $160 ($80 after mail in rebate) with $10 gift card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167048 There's also the 120gb variant: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167050

If you're looking for a modular power supply, I guess you're looking at a Seasonic X750 for $110: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087 or a X660 for $100: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65390&promoid=105 Being a $10 difference, you might as well just get the X750. If you're looking for something less expensive that's semi modular than the Antec Truepower New 550 (Seasonic manufactured) for $60 (there's a lot of cables attached to it for being a semi modular unit): http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=36262&promoid=1055

Coolermaster 690ii Advanced for $69 ($49 after mail in rebate) is a good option for a case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216




Thanks for the quick reply. Couldn't pass up getting the i5 and the mobo for $200 total...

Just purchased the Samsung before reading this (I saw you had recommended it in a couple other posts!)

I'm going with the GSkill 8g Ripsaw that's on sale currently and was thinking about the Rosewell Challenger + Show Spoiler +
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153


As far as the modular psu goes do you think its worth the extra price? I'd be just as happy with a cheaper PSU as I'm trying to cut as many corners as I can atm. I just don't want to have to deal with a huge amount of cable management.(College Grad = not a lot of money)


(Again first build from scratch so I'm not 100% sure on what to get. I've upgraded prebuilt models many times but I never had to pair up ever piece like this. Truly appreciate the help!!)
I have a question...
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 01:35:14
November 26 2011 01:32 GMT
#15263
hey guys, so an unexpected problem came up, and I won't be able to finish my build. The unfortunate part is that I bought most of my parts already, but I'll have to buy the parts I haven't bought later (cpu and psu). So far, these are what I bought:

mobo: BIOSTAR H61MGC LGA 1155 Intel H61 ($40 after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138332

memory: Kingston 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) ($15)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139046&cm_mmc=BF2011_listing-_-147-_-N82E16820139046&nm_mc=BF2011_listing

hdd: HITACHI HDS721050CLA362 (0F10381) 500GB 7200 RPM ($50 w/ promo code)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL112511&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL112511-_-EMC-112511-Index-_-InternalHardDrives-_-22145299-L012A

case: COOLER MASTER Elite 430 ($25 after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119227&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL112511&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL112511-_-EMC-112511-Index-_-ComputerCases-_-11119227-L012C

Like I have said, due to my financial situation (poor college student whose paycheck is being delayed), I won't be able to get the $30 psu and g530 ($52) until a month or two later. So I figured if I'm going to wait, why not wait for the ivy bridge cpu and maybe get an i3 or even an i5 ivy bridge? But the mobo is my main concern. Although I got it for a beast of a deal, I'm not sure if I should keep it or return it. The same goes for the other parts I bought. What should I do? Should I keep all the parts, keep some and return some, or return all of them?

oh yeah, i already have a gpu
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 01:39:32
November 26 2011 01:38 GMT
#15264
On November 26 2011 10:25 Drmooose wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On November 26 2011 10:10 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 05:51 Drmooose wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Here's my current build. I was going to wait a bit but Micro Center had a great deal today so I picked up the MoBo/i5 today

Processor-Intel i5 2500k
Motherboard- AsRock Z68 Pro3-M
Memory- w/e 8g 1600
Case-??
Power Supply-corsair/seasonic modular
HD-??
Video Card-GeForce GTX 560 Ti (evga/msi)
DVD Drive- w/e

Any recommendations as to what power supply? I guess the biggest thing I don't know much about are SSDs. I have a 1TB external and a few other internals so I can get away with a much smaller SSD than I would normally want. Any good recommendations for 80-120 GB SSDs that aren't completely outrageously priced?

Also how will the MoBo be? I did a bit of research but this is my first build from scratch.


Motherboard is decent.

Samsung 830 64gb for $95 is a good deal: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147502

Intel 320 80gb is also a good deal if you want to deal with mail in rebates, $160 ($80 after mail in rebate) with $10 gift card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167048 There's also the 120gb variant: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167050

If you're looking for a modular power supply, I guess you're looking at a Seasonic X750 for $110: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087 or a X660 for $100: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65390&promoid=105 Being a $10 difference, you might as well just get the X750. If you're looking for something less expensive that's semi modular than the Antec Truepower New 550 (Seasonic manufactured) for $60 (there's a lot of cables attached to it for being a semi modular unit): http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=36262&promoid=1055

Coolermaster 690ii Advanced for $69 ($49 after mail in rebate) is a good option for a case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216




Thanks for the quick reply. Couldn't pass up getting the i5 and the mobo for $200 total...

Just purchased the Samsung before reading this (I saw you had recommended it in a couple other posts!)

I'm going with the GSkill 8g Ripsaw that's on sale currently and was thinking about the Rosewell Challenger + Show Spoiler +
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153


As far as the modular psu goes do you think its worth the extra price? I'd be just as happy with a cheaper PSU as I'm trying to cut as many corners as I can atm. I just don't want to have to deal with a huge amount of cable management.(College Grad = not a lot of money)


(Again first build from scratch so I'm not 100% sure on what to get. I've upgraded prebuilt models many times but I never had to pair up ever piece like this. Truly appreciate the help!!)


If you're trying to cut down on costs than you should get an even less expensive case than the Rosewill Challenger at $50 such as the Bitfenix Outlaw at $40: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63255&promoid=1055

It's usually not worth it for most people to get a modular power supply. There's not much cables to deal with in these low-end configurations anyways, you'll just be left hiding a strand of SATA and maybe a strand of molex. You should probably just pick up this OCZ ZS 650 for $75 ($50 after mail in rebate) that comes with a DVD burner as well.


On November 26 2011 10:32 billy5000 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
hey guys, so an unexpected problem came up, and I won't be able to finish my build. The unfortunate part is that I bought most of my parts already, but I'll have to buy the parts I haven't bought later (cpu and psu). So far, these are what I bought:

mobo: BIOSTAR H61MGC LGA 1155 Intel H61 ($40 after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138332

memory: Kingston 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) ($15)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139046&cm_mmc=BF2011_listing-_-147-_-N82E16820139046&nm_mc=BF2011_listing

hdd: HITACHI HDS721050CLA362 (0F10381) 500GB 7200 RPM ($50 w/ promo code)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL112511&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL112511-_-EMC-112511-Index-_-InternalHardDrives-_-22145299-L012A

case: COOLER MASTER Elite 430 ($25 after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119227&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL112511&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL112511-_-EMC-112511-Index-_-ComputerCases-_-11119227-L012C

Like I have said, due to my financial situation (poor college student whose paycheck is being delayed), I won't be able to get the $30 psu and g530 ($52) until a month or two later. So I figured if I'm going to wait, why not wait for the ivy bridge cpu and maybe get an i3 or even an i5 ivy bridge? But the mobo is my main concern. Although I got it for a beast of a deal, I'm not sure if I should keep it or return it. The same goes for the other parts I bought. What should I do? Should I keep all the parts, keep some and return some, or return all of them?

oh yeah, i already have a gpu


I would return the motherboard but you can keep the rest if you want.
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
November 26 2011 01:58 GMT
#15265
I'm guessing there won't be a new type of memory (ie ddr4?idklol) on the new mobos?
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 26 2011 02:01 GMT
#15266
Don't expect DDR4 until Rockwell or Skylake.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 26 2011 03:09 GMT
#15267
On November 26 2011 10:10 skyR wrote:
870, 880, 890, 970, 990

So basicallly this is going to be good for all bulldozers for overclocking to like 4.6+ ?
http://www4.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50894&agid=1232
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
November 26 2011 03:21 GMT
#15268
Who knows, you might just set your motherboard on fire à la MSI motherboards and Thuban.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 26 2011 03:27 GMT
#15269
Well i was hoping someone knew <_<
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 03:35:56
November 26 2011 03:34 GMT
#15270
Maybe overclock the 2-module to 4.6 GHz, but the 4-module ones? Unless they're using really beefy MOSFETs, good luck with that on a 4+1 phase design.

edit: possibly with like NH-C14 blowing down to cool them, maybe...?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 26 2011 03:50 GMT
#15271
FX4100 is supposed to easily overclock to 4.6 Ghz on stock cooling
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 26 2011 03:56 GMT
#15272
Oh sorry, I read "all Bulldozers" but not the FX-4100 part in a different post above that.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 04:13:21
November 26 2011 04:06 GMT
#15273
They overclock well but are very unstable in gaming. When I say "who knows" I mean no one knows what's going on. Its literally Phenom I all over again.

Edit:
You can get to 5Ghz with some difficulty (like 1.47V) but if you're planning to get a FX build, I still wouldn't. No one knows what the hell is happening with Bulldozer. Currently, they have problems dealing with multiprocessing (or some other stuff too, who knows), which leads to annoying BSODs. AMD knows about this and tells you to update your BIOS...some will fix this issue but also drag performance down to an unacceptable amount. In other cases, newer BIOSes will break compatibility with some games.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 26 2011 04:28 GMT
#15274
Oh I'm not planning on getting one, but I just want to know this for the sake of knowing it .-. Also it might be a viable alternative to some cheaper sandybridges for some people in some situations so it's useful to know.


How about the problem with Bulldozer where it couldn't play like 20 different steam games? Has it been fixed? If it can't even start those games it being marketed as a gaming processor is just..
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
November 26 2011 04:49 GMT
#15275
fx 4100 isn't useful for anything. it's slower than a a8-3850 in many cases.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 26 2011 05:00 GMT
#15276
When overclocked to 4.6 Ghz? I have trouble believing that
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 26 2011 05:03 GMT
#15277
Pretty sure a 4.6GHz FX4100 would lose to a 4GHz Phenom II... in everything.
Molybdenum
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States358 Posts
November 26 2011 05:13 GMT
#15278
Would the intel 320 series SSDs be worth getting for a laptop then reusing for an ivy bridge build in April? Around $1/GB is excellent, but I'm on the edge because it's SATA II and something better/better prices may come around in 5 months. I've tried to google around for info, but there's not much about ssd price predictions (of course), but I'm not sure if it's worth picking this up now over something else when I build a desktop. I'm having trouble pulling the trigger
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 26 2011 05:15 GMT
#15279
I know a lot of people who ordered Intel 320 but I'm having trouble pulling the trigger as well =p Getting AMEX instead of prepaid cheque is really putting me off from the deal.
FredYuanme
Profile Joined March 2011
United States30 Posts
November 26 2011 05:18 GMT
#15280
This is my first computer build and I just want it to be checked over and given some suggestions.
My budget is $800.
This is what I have so far. I plan on playing SC2 and Skyrim on high graphics and also streaming in pretty high quality.

CPU - Intel i5 -2500
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073
$210

Motherboard - MSI P67S-C43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130576
$97

RAM - Pareema 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576006
$40

I don't which GPU to choose.
GPU - SAPPHIRE 1Radeon HD 6950 1GB 256-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102949
$240
or
GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125363
$235

Hard drive - I already bought HITACHI 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive for $50

PSU - Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044
$70

Case - COOLER MASTER HAF 912
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233
$60

CPU cooler - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
$25

Optical Drive - SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
$16
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