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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 26 2011 16:42 GMT
#15301
Because the other one is out of stock.

The mobo is a bad choice because Gigabyte boards suck and don't use UEFI bios and because it costs more.

No it can't, for SLi this is suggested:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

But why do you want to SLi?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
November 26 2011 18:34 GMT
#15302
Wowowow gigabyte boards dont suck, they are the most reliable ones i think. UEFI is just a personal preference as I like the traditional look much more.
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 19:04:15
November 26 2011 18:59 GMT
#15303
OK, so I got a lot of stuff yesterday for a computer that I'm going to build soon (budget = $1000). I do plan on using mail in rebates.
Here's what I got:
+ Show Spoiler +
Corsair 650 TX (1st gen, $60 with MIR)
8GB GSkill Ripjaws 1600 mhz RAM (was $30)
Cooler Master 690 II Advanced case
XIGMATEK Gaia (got it when it was $5 with MIR)
This monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001483

I was planning on getting crossfire 6870s, an i5 2500k, ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3, and w/e else I need next. Is that a good plan, or should I get a cheaper graphics card or something?

EDIT: I have a 500gb hard drive already (probably had it for years lol)
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 26 2011 19:12 GMT
#15304
Yes that's a good plan.

The Corsair TX650 wasn't exactly the best purchase. It may look like a sale but Newegg is just getting rid of old stock.
SChlafmann
Profile Joined September 2011
France725 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 19:19:20
November 26 2011 19:14 GMT
#15305
On November 27 2011 03:59 Ettick wrote:


Do you want to OC? If the answer is no then go for a cheaper Mobo and a non-k CPU.
If you want to play something else than SC2, you will be bottelnecked by the GPU most of the time. Have a look at 560Ti or 570 if it fits your budget (which should be).

Btw, this PSU is useless. You don't need that much W for a single-GPU rig.

Edit : my bad, time to sleep I guess, tough week. u_u
"More GG, more skill" - Nope! Chuck Testa - #BISU2013
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 19:16:04
November 26 2011 19:15 GMT
#15306
Ok, but it will still run everything I plan on getting, right?
EDIT: Im going to play BF3, Skyrim, SC2, and other games with this
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 19:15:28
November 26 2011 19:15 GMT
#15307
He mentioned CrossfireX -_-

Yes it'll run everything easily.
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
November 26 2011 19:17 GMT
#15308
Thanks for the help!
ziggurat
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada847 Posts
November 26 2011 19:28 GMT
#15309
Hey everyone I am not that knowledgeable about computers but I need to upgrade my system and I am thinking of just ordering from Best Buy. Here is what I am looking at:

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/cyberpowerpc-cyberpowerpc-gamer-xtreme-desktop-computer-featuring-intel-core-i5-2500k-gxi260-english-gxi260/10182886.aspx?path=d16c904cdb0c4da26b04d73cea89ef0ben02

If anyone would share their opinion about this I would appreciate it.

My info:

Budget: Not really an issue basically I just want to get a system that I can play SC2 and other games on as well as possibly do some streaming. I believe I can get this for around $1000 including monitor; but if I need to spend a bit more that's okay.

Resolution: I have been playing at 1440 x 900 but that's because my current system is old and shitty. I would like to up the resolution but I don't really know what is desirable. Basically I just want something that runs reasonably well.

Using comp for: gaming, streaming, watching movies, porn.

Upgrade cycle: Hoping to just buy this and then not have to change anything for 2-3 years

When: pretty much ready to buy today.

Overclocking?: no, unless there is a compelling reason to do so

OS: yes I need one

Second GPU? No

Where am I buying from? As a lazy un-knowledgeable person I was just going to order from Best Buy unless there is a significant advantage to getting from Newegg. Live in Canada by the way.

Thanks to anyone who can give me advice!





Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 19:58:59
November 26 2011 19:58 GMT
#15310
Budget: $400

Resolution: Need a graphics card with an HDMI output so I can set it up on a TV.

Use: Gaming.

Upgrade cycle: Not for a long time.

When: Now.

Overclocking?: Yes.

OS: Have one.

Second GPU? Have a GTS 250, would like to SLI/Crossfire, yes.

I already have a Q9550 I plan on using, so I don't need a CPU.
I also already have a case.
Have a HDD aswell.

I need:

Power Supply
Mobo
RAM
2nd GPU + Bridge
Groko
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 20:43:43
November 26 2011 20:15 GMT
#15311
Hey can someone help me find a cheap card to replace my brothers 8800gt. It just recently died and we are looking for a card to replace it. Any recommendations on something that can play sc2 on medium-high?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 20:51:09
November 26 2011 20:46 GMT
#15312
On November 27 2011 05:15 Groko wrote:
Hey can someone help me find a cheap card to replace my brothers 8800gt. It just recently died and we are looking for a cheap card to replace it. Any recommendations on something that can play sc2 on medium-high?


This is a slight downgrade, but this Sapphire HD 6570 (but DDR3) is selling for $50 shipped:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102934

As for something that's a small upgrade, here's a HIS HD 6750 for a little over $90 shipped:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161395


Or GTS 250 (pretty much a beefed up 8800 GT and a member of the 8800 / 9800 series) for $65 before MIR:
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60052&promoid=1055
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 26 2011 20:59 GMT
#15313
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150535
43$ after MIR =P
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 26 2011 21:46 GMT
#15314
On November 27 2011 04:28 ziggurat wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey everyone I am not that knowledgeable about computers but I need to upgrade my system and I am thinking of just ordering from Best Buy. Here is what I am looking at:

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/cyberpowerpc-cyberpowerpc-gamer-xtreme-desktop-computer-featuring-intel-core-i5-2500k-gxi260-english-gxi260/10182886.aspx?path=d16c904cdb0c4da26b04d73cea89ef0ben02

If anyone would share their opinion about this I would appreciate it.

My info:

Budget: Not really an issue basically I just want to get a system that I can play SC2 and other games on as well as possibly do some streaming. I believe I can get this for around $1000 including monitor; but if I need to spend a bit more that's okay.

Resolution: I have been playing at 1440 x 900 but that's because my current system is old and shitty. I would like to up the resolution but I don't really know what is desirable. Basically I just want something that runs reasonably well.

Using comp for: gaming, streaming, watching movies, porn.

Upgrade cycle: Hoping to just buy this and then not have to change anything for 2-3 years

When: pretty much ready to buy today.

Overclocking?: no, unless there is a compelling reason to do so

OS: yes I need one

Second GPU? No

Where am I buying from? As a lazy un-knowledgeable person I was just going to order from Best Buy unless there is a significant advantage to getting from Newegg. Live in Canada by the way.

Thanks to anyone who can give me advice!


It's an okay price, not overpriced but not heavily discounted. It's a configuration that's capable of playing Starcraft II on ultra and other games on medium to reasonably high settings at 1080p, as well as streaming.

If you go through NCIX instead and have them assemble for $50, you'll be able to get a better graphics card instead at the same price. If you assemble yourself, you'll save a few dollars.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 26 2011 21:59 GMT
#15315
On November 27 2011 04:58 Nabutso wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Budget: $400

Resolution: Need a graphics card with an HDMI output so I can set it up on a TV.

Use: Gaming.

Upgrade cycle: Not for a long time.

When: Now.

Overclocking?: Yes.

OS: Have one.

Second GPU? Have a GTS 250, would like to SLI/Crossfire, yes.

I already have a Q9550 I plan on using, so I don't need a CPU.
I also already have a case.
Have a HDD aswell.

I need:

Power Supply
Mobo
RAM
2nd GPU + Bridge


Look on BST forums if you want to buy outdated components. Retailers won't be carrying P45 or X48 boards - if they are, it's going to be overpriced. And SLI with a pair of GTS 250 is a bad idea unless you got the second GTS 250 for free. A Radeon HD6850 would offer better performance and can be had for as low as $130.

Most of the inexpensive good power supplies have sold out. I guess the Seasonic X660 is a good investment at $100 if you plan on keeping it for your next configurations as well: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65390&promoid=1115 If you want something less expensive, you can look into getting an XFX Core Edition 550w, Antec Neo Eco 520w, Antec High Current Gamer 520w, or Seasonic S12II 520w. All of them are basically the same so just get whatever is the least expensive one.
Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
November 26 2011 22:12 GMT
#15316
On November 27 2011 06:59 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 04:58 Nabutso wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Budget: $400

Resolution: Need a graphics card with an HDMI output so I can set it up on a TV.

Use: Gaming.

Upgrade cycle: Not for a long time.

When: Now.

Overclocking?: Yes.

OS: Have one.

Second GPU? Have a GTS 250, would like to SLI/Crossfire, yes.

I already have a Q9550 I plan on using, so I don't need a CPU.
I also already have a case.
Have a HDD aswell.

I need:

Power Supply
Mobo
RAM
2nd GPU + Bridge


Look on BST forums if you want to buy outdated components. Retailers won't be carrying P45 or X48 boards - if they are, it's going to be overpriced. And SLI with a pair of GTS 250 is a bad idea unless you got the second GTS 250 for free. A Radeon HD6850 would offer better performance and can be had for as low as $130.

Most of the inexpensive good power supplies have sold out. I guess the Seasonic X660 is a good investment at $100 if you plan on keeping it for your next configurations as well: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65390&promoid=1115 If you want something less expensive, you can look into getting an XFX Core Edition 550w, Antec Neo Eco 520w, Antec High Current Gamer 520w, or Seasonic S12II 520w. All of them are basically the same so just get whatever is the least expensive one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130234
Is this motherboard alright for what I had in mind?

Also, would I have any real benefit to SLI with a more recent card with my GTS 250 or should I just stick with a single GPU, a more recent one? If so, what motherboard do you recommend that can SLI the two cards? Or do you always have to have 2 of the same card to SLI?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 26 2011 22:20 GMT
#15317
You cannot SLI different GPUs (eg. you cannot SLI a GTX 460 with your GTS 250), it must be two GTS 250. You should just stick to a single GPU since Nvidia weren't exactly friendly back than with Intel regarding their SLI technology.

That motherboard isn't exactly a great choice. It may be inexpensive but the G31 chipset was released with the 65nm Core 2 processors and these motherboards only use DDR2 memory. DDR2 memory isn't exactly cheap these days since it's no longer the desktop standard. You should look for a P43, P45, or G4# board that supports DDR3.
Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 22:35:42
November 26 2011 22:34 GMT
#15318
Mobo: http://www.amazon.com/GA-P45T-ES3G-Desktop-Motherboard-Socket-LGA-775/dp/B004YLE5H0 $80
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005 $80
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130571 $170

How does that look?
Also.. lets talk CPU fan/heatsinks... no idea what to get for my Q9550 for OCing.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 26 2011 22:40 GMT
#15319
Corsair TX650 for $80 isn't a good deal. Newegg is just getting rid of old stock. Just get the Antec High Current Gamer for 620: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=56788&promoid=1055

GTX 460 isn't a good choice. Radeon HD6850 performs similar and is less expensive. Radeon HD6870 performs better and is about the same price at $170.

That motherboard is a 2+1 phase design with no mosfet heatsinks, I'm not sure how far you would get on that thing...
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 26 2011 22:44 GMT
#15320
I can't understand why you'd get that GTX 460 instead of this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131378
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