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Nocthem
Canada71 Posts
On November 28 2011 08:38 skyR wrote: Why do you think you deserve special attention by duplicating your useless post? calm down dude, I realised after that there was a full topic of people asking some spec help, | ||
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Skrillex1
United States22 Posts
Max of ~$400 What is your resolution? 1920x1080 What are you using it for? Starcraft 2 and photoshop as well, would like to be able to stream. What is your upgrade cycle? I haven't upgraded anything in my computer for 3years When do you plan on building it? Would like to build it over winter break. Do you plan on overclocking? Nope. Do you need an Operating System? Nope. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Nope. Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg I'm looking to upgrade my mobo, cpu, and ram. Currently have an xfx 780i, with a Pentium D 3.0ghz dual core, 5g of 800mh ddr2 ram. My current GPU is a 9600GT, and a 650watt power supply, which I will be keeping along with my harddrive | ||
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bobmahoni
5 Posts
$700-$800 What is your resolution? 1920x1200 or 1920x1080 What are you using it for? Gaming, everyday use, some photoshop and video editing What is your upgrade cycle? 3 years When do you plan on building it? Around christmas Do you plan on overclocking? At some point, yes. Not excessive overclocking though Do you need an Operating System? No Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No Where are you buying your parts from? Frys and Microcenter within 30 minutes away, Newegg I am currently looking at the i5 2500K for the processor. I should be able to get it for around $150. I'm thinking of going with the 6950 as my GPU. Currently looking for good deals. Is there a big difference between DDR3-1333 and DDR3-1600 memory? The prices don't seem to be too far apart, so I'm wondering if there is a large performance difference. I also have no clue what wattage PSU I would need for this system. Thanks for any suggestions/builds!  | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On November 28 2011 12:14 Skrillex1 wrote: Build i5 2400 Asrock H61 motherboard 2x4GB of memory Total is around $277. If you don't mind spending $20 above your budget, you can get a GPU that can actually run Starcraft 2 really well. | ||
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
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Artifice
United States523 Posts
Already own: PSU: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2700093&CatId=2535 HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533 (got this for $80, now its $250, wtf?) Intending on purchasing: Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160 $120 Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131730 $180 GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130621 $340 CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070 $320 RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231431 $100 dvd/cd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 $20 heatsink: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018 $85 Also curious, since I've never done it before: Will putting this HDD into the new comp without reformatting it cause any issues? Really not feeling like reformatting again, since I just did very recently. I'm assuming its as simple as downloading a few drivers for the new stuff once its up and running, but maybe its not so simple... | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On November 28 2011 13:31 Artifice wrote:+ Show Spoiler + About to pick up parts for a new build, figured I'd throw it up here and see if anyone can spot any glaring errors or offer suggestions: Already own: PSU: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2700093&CatId=2535 HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533 (got this for $80, now its $250, wtf?) Intending on purchasing: Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160 $120 Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131730 $180 GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130621 $340 CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070 $320 RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231431 $100 dvd/cd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 $20 heatsink: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018 $85 Also curious, since I've never done it before: Will putting this HDD into the new comp without reformatting it cause any issues? Really not feeling like reformatting again, since I just did very recently. I'm assuming its as simple as downloading a few drivers for the new stuff once its up and running, but maybe its not so simple... Purchasing cas7 memory at $100 when cas9 is at $30-$40 is pretty stupid considering how the gains are negligible. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3.html http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3 http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377 It's better to put this money elsewhere that gives you a bigger gain. Maybe consider a SSD such as the Samsung 830 64gb for $95: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147502 or Intel 320 80gb for $150 ($80 after mail in rebate) with a $10 promotional gift card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167047 You might experience some issues by not doing a fresh installation of the operating system since the old drivers will still be on it and your new motherboard will require a totally different set. A lot of HDD manufacturing happens in Thailand. Don't be surprised that HDD prices are through the roof right now because of the recent flooding... Just get the least expensive burner: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233 | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
Can I ask why you are spending so much on the CPU cooler, memory, GPU, motherboard as well as the reason why you need a full tower chassis? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
You also are wasting a ton of money on uselessness. Basically you've got a 1165$ build that's ehh really lacking in performance. You can keep the CPU, change mobo to AsRock Pro3, change ram to a 30-40$ 8gb 1600mhz kit, change graphics card to gtx 580, I'd also change the heatsink to something cheaper like Xigmatek Dark Knight at 9$ after MIR. You'll have more performance for less money. Also for that budget it's far more intelligent to slip in a SSD than to spend on a premium heatsink and on overpriced ram | ||
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AnDa1120
Canada472 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On November 28 2011 14:27 Kilos wrote: Can a AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE go on a AM2 mobo? It depends on the motherboard. | ||
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AnDa1120
Canada472 Posts
I have an AM5100-E5402A right now. :s | ||
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Phakeout
United States2 Posts
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Phayze
Canada2029 Posts
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United States163 Posts
Questions Budget: $800 Resolution: 1920x1080 Use: Starcraft 2, Team Fortress 2, and other stuff. I want to be able to run new games for a while. Upgrade Cycle: Until it breaks, or it can't do something I want it to do. No plans to upgrade anytime soon. When: ASAP! But I could hold off for a little if it were beneficial. Overclock: Oh hell no! That sounds complicated! Need OS: No. Second GPU: No, I think that's out of my price range, and I'm not looking for anything that powerful. Locations: I have access to a Micro Center, which is where I'm going to try to get the sandy bridge, because it's kinda sold out or expensive otherwise. Parts List (slightly edited from optimized computer thread, removed burner, added monitor, updated prices) + Show Spoiler + Motherboard: MSI P67S-C43 (B3) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130576 $96.99 + $7.56 Processor: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589 $179.99 + $14.50 (tax) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 $25.99 Graphics Card: PowerColor AX6870 1GBD5-2DH Radeon HD 6870 1GB http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131378 $169.99 RAM: Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576003 $19.99 Hard Drive: (I think I'm going to hold off on the hard drive for now, use an old one in hopes prices go down.) HITACHI HDS721050CLA362 (0F10381) 500GB 7200 RPM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299 $99.99 + $6.29 Case: XIGMATEK Asgard II http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815004 $39.99 + $9.99 Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030 $54.99 + $2.99 I also need a monitor. Looking through team liquid, I found this one, which looks good to me. Monitor: Asus ML228H 21.5" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236099 $154.99 + $8.99 Total: $786.95 (without hd) | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
The monitor is pretty expensive for what its offering. I mean for $40 more you can get a Dell U2212HM straight from Dell's online store and its basically better in every single way. If you go for the Dell route, remember to abuse the warranty service they offer! Besides that, there isn't really anything wrong with your build. Just remember to update your BIOS because the initial BIOS on that motherboard was a bit dodgy for overclocking. Edit: Even better, see if Microcenter has some nice P67/Z68 + i5 2500k combo deals. I vaguely remember them doing some pretty awesome deals in the past. | ||
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Hertzy
Finland355 Posts
On November 28 2011 07:59 Shikyo wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On November 28 2011 07:27 Hertzy wrote: Okay, I'm about to embark on building a computer, and I'd appreciate if someone could point any glaringly obvious mistakes I'm making. Here's what I'm thinking; budget ~750 e + Show Spoiler + Motherboard: Asus M5A78L 760G AM3+ ATX 68.90e Processor: AMD Athlon II X2 250 62.90e GPU: Asus EAH6870 DC/2DI2S/1GD5 Radeon HD 6870 185.90e PSU: AeroCool E78-530 530W 54.90e RAM: 2xKingston 1024MB (1GB) PC1066 1066MHz DDR 17.80e Optical drive: Asus DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS 22.90e HDD: Western Digital AV GP 1 TB - 88.90e Processor fan: Cooler Master Vortex Plus 1366/1156/1155 27.90e Case: Antec VSK-2000 44.90e Display: Acer P226HQVbd 21.5" Full HD 119.90e OS: Ubuntu 11.10-desktop-amd6 0.0e (All prices include shipping) I'm planning on overclocking, and I understand that the X2 responds well to that. Hence the processor fan. The thing that worries me the most is that the PSU will cut it a bit close with the GPU running at full steam; 12V*25A=300W, GPU maxes out an 270W. Essentially, I'm hoping to play SCII and Dwarf Fortress with a respectable fps, and to stay in budget. 6870 is absolutely ridiculously overpriced at 186€, please buy from somewhere where they don't rip you off. The processor is overpriced as well, just like the mobo. For that price you could get something like G860 which is infinitely better The RAM is insanely overpriced as well and buying 2 sticks of 1gb is just ridiculous. That cooler sucks and is overpriced that case sucks and is overpriced Why on earth are you buying from some place that's trying to rip you off so horribly? If you're ordering from finland, this is 666€ including shipping without screen: http://www.silentrig.com/product/1012/intel-core-i5-2500--4-x-330ghz-95w-boxed http://www.silentrig.com/product/714/xfx-core-edition-pro-450w http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/H61M-HVS http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/KVR1333D3N9/4G http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/HD753LJ http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/GH22NS30RBBB http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/N560GTX-TI-TF-II/OC http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/FD-CA-CORE-1000-BL-MURO Note that you can easily cut if that's too much, my first 2 choices would be to cut the graphics card to this: http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/ENGTX560-DC/2DI/1GD5 and the processor to this: http://www.silentrig.com/product/683/intel-core-i3-2100-2-x-31ghz-65w-boxed Also note that the HDD is probably not available so search around <_< Either way even with those cuts it's still going to be way better than what you had in mind Thanks. I was just figuring things were expensive because it was Finland. I think you just saved me a lot of grief. | ||
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United States163 Posts
On November 28 2011 19:36 Womwomwom wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Neo Eco is out of stock. This should be a decent alternative. Unfortunate it doesn't have 2x 6 pin PCIe power plugs but the Powercolor GPU should have some molex connectors you can use. The monitor is pretty expensive for what its offering. I mean for $40 more you can get a Dell U2212HM straight from Dell's online store and its basically better in every single way. If you go for the Dell route, remember to abuse the warranty service they offer! Besides that, there isn't really anything wrong with your build. Just remember to update your BIOS because the initial BIOS on that motherboard was a bit dodgy for overclocking. Edit: Even better, see if Microcenter has some nice P67/Z68 + i5 2500k combo deals. I vaguely remember them doing some pretty awesome deals in the past. Didn't see that was out of stock, I'm gonna use the alternative for sure. For the monitor I think I will stay with the one I dug up, because I value the $40 more then the extra quality, I don't think I will be able to tell the difference. Do I need to update the bios if I don't plan on overclocking? I know that I could potentially brick it if the power goes out during the process. (however unlikely that may be) Thanks for the ideas and the expertise, your awesome! | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
There's no need to spend so much on a TN monitor that uses a poor design for a base. Edit: If you don't plan on overclocking, just get an Asrock H61 motherboard. | ||
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
That's not a motherboard, that's the model of the computer (pre-built Acer). Using Phenom II on AM2 motherboards typically requires a BIOS update. For most pre-built machines, the amount of updates available is often quite low, so don't count on it working. But to be sure, you need to know the brand and model of the motherboard in the machine. | ||
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