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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 25 2011 19:54 GMT
#15241
You don't need more than a 400w PSU.. That SSD isn't suggested, Samsung 830 or Crucial m4 are. That mobo definitely isn't suggested, asrock pro3 or p8p67 tend to be the better budget choices. Case overkill imo. Everything fits together though.

League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Tuskon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States86 Posts
November 25 2011 20:05 GMT
#15242
On November 26 2011 04:26 skyR wrote:
For power supply, get the Antec Truepower New 550 for $60: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=36262&promoid=1055

CX430 is okay for $17 after mail in rebate if you want to use an PCIe to molex adapter for your 6870.


Would using the PCIe to molex adapter be detrimental in any way? Does it come with the CX430 or would i have to buy it on the side?
I'm just trying to understand if its better to spend the $40 more on the PSU you listed over using the CX430 with that adapter.


Build so far
+ Show Spoiler +

CPU: i5-2320 (already bought)
GPU: HD6870 (already bought)
HDD: Re-using old one (at least until prices come down and i can get a new one or a SSD)
Optical : Re-using old one
OS: Already have it
MOBO: ASRock H61M/U3S3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236
CASE: Thermaltake V3 Black Edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094
RAM: Team Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313086
PSU: Pending response
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 20:11:39
November 25 2011 20:10 GMT
#15243
Most 6870s will include it, and if you have yours already, you can see if it's included =P If it's not, they don't cost a ton:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812196870

And no it's not detrimential unless you run out of molex cables(you shouldn't with that setup).

I definitely would go with the cx430 at just 17$ after MIR.
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Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 20:39:50
November 25 2011 20:32 GMT
#15244
Given the following components,

CPU: Intel Core i5 2320
Memory: 10GB DDR3
HDD: 2 x 2TB
Optical: 16x DVD burner
Graphics: ATI HD6570
PSU: 300W
Others: 10 x USB2.0 ; 2 x USB3.0 ; Keyboard + Mouse included, Windows 7 included, Case included

Assume the most mediocre typical brands for the above components, would it be worth $799.99 CAD (roughly 576 Euros)

(edit: case included)
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 25 2011 20:41 GMT
#15245
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227371

This would be better for canada


And the one you mentioned definitely not worth it
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Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 20:49:41
November 25 2011 20:43 GMT
#15246
Alright, thanks. I'd check it myself but I'm on the run.

edit: ok, got a moment to do a quick search myself:
On November 26 2011 05:41 Shikyo wrote:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227371

This would be better for canada


And the one you mentioned definitely not worth it

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227370
How would this one compare? I'm more of an Intel/ATI guy.
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 20:46:10
November 25 2011 20:44 GMT
#15247
It's worth like $525 if new including Windows and everything, but excluding the hard drives since those are hard to give a value to. (And that's by the price of components; if you wanted a gaming build, you could get better performance with less money by getting a worse CPU and better GPU) How much is disk space worth to you right now? Hard drive prices are currently like 150-300% of typical because of floods in Thailand, and it will be that way for at least several months.

With current pricing, 4TB of storage is more like $300 by itself, since it's probably slower 5400 rpm models.
Drmooose
Profile Joined March 2011
United States390 Posts
November 25 2011 20:51 GMT
#15248
Here's my current build. I was going to wait a bit but Micro Center had a great deal today so I picked up the MoBo/i5 today

Processor-Intel i5 2500k
Motherboard- AsRock Z68 Pro3-M
Memory- w/e 8g 1600
Case-??
Power Supply-corsair/seasonic modular
HD-??
Video Card-GeForce GTX 560 Ti (evga/msi)
DVD Drive- w/e

Any recommendations as to what power supply? I guess the biggest thing I don't know much about are SSDs. I have a 1TB external and a few other internals so I can get away with a much smaller SSD than I would normally want. Any good recommendations for 80-120 GB SSDs that aren't completely outrageously priced?

Also how will the MoBo be? I did a bit of research but this is my first build from scratch.
I have a question...
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 20:55:27
November 25 2011 20:52 GMT
#15249
On November 26 2011 05:44 Myrmidon wrote:
It's worth like $525 if new including Windows and everything, but excluding the hard drives since those are hard to give a value to. (And that's by the price of components; if you wanted a gaming build, you could get better performance with less money by getting a worse CPU and better GPU) How much is disk space worth to you right now? Hard drive prices are currently like 150-300% of typical because of floods in Thailand, and it will be that way for at least several months.

With current pricing, 4TB of storage is more like $300 by itself, since it's probably slower 5400 rpm models.

It's not necessarily for heavy gaming, perhaps I'd guess casual/light gaming. Although HD movies in 1920x1080 is preferred so I guess that'd fall under a more high end vid card regardless.

Disk space is extremely important, I regret not buying a hard drive when prices were <$90 for a cavier black 1TB

I had a feeling that "deal" wasn't worth it, but didn't realize it was $250+ not worth it
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 21:07:50
November 25 2011 21:01 GMT
#15250
Newegg had the Xigmatek Dark knight CPU cooler for 10 dollars after rebate earlier.

Is there anywhere else I can maybe get it? Been looking, just wondering if anyone else has seen it.

Else Im just gonna hop on the 212. I was probably going to end up doing that anyway but Xigmateks rebates are pretty terrible according to a lot of people.

UPDATE: To specify.

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0340872

Selling a Dark knight...... for FREE. After rebates.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 25 2011 21:34 GMT
#15251
On November 26 2011 05:52 Not_Computer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 05:44 Myrmidon wrote:
It's worth like $525 if new including Windows and everything, but excluding the hard drives since those are hard to give a value to. (And that's by the price of components; if you wanted a gaming build, you could get better performance with less money by getting a worse CPU and better GPU) How much is disk space worth to you right now? Hard drive prices are currently like 150-300% of typical because of floods in Thailand, and it will be that way for at least several months.

With current pricing, 4TB of storage is more like $300 by itself, since it's probably slower 5400 rpm models.

It's not necessarily for heavy gaming, perhaps I'd guess casual/light gaming. Although HD movies in 1920x1080 is preferred so I guess that'd fall under a more high end vid card regardless.

Disk space is extremely important, I regret not buying a hard drive when prices were <$90 for a cavier black 1TB

I had a feeling that "deal" wasn't worth it, but didn't realize it was $250+ not worth it

Well actually it might be worth it as those HDDs are so costly new -.- but consider the one I linked
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
TheTMK
Profile Joined May 2011
United States3 Posts
November 25 2011 21:42 GMT
#15252
Hey TL,
I am finally going to man up and do my own build. The Black Friday newegg deals require me to do so.
I want a computer to play Starcraft 2 on basically. I bought it day one and have not had much fun with my woefully incapable laptop. I am at around $560 dollars and would not mind that number going down.
I really appreciate any tips and advice.


Here's what I got... By all means rip it apart!

Case - COOLER MASTER Storm Enforcer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119240

CPU - AMD Phenom II X6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103913
( I am looking to shed some cost and I feel like this may be the spot to do so)

GPU - SAPPHIRE 100323L Radeon HD 6570
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102934

CPU Cooler - COOLER MASTER V6 GT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103089

MotherBoard - ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 AM3 AMD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131660

Power Supply - COOLER MASTER GX 450W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171060

RAM - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345

Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar Blue WD1600AAJB 160GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136112
(Not alot of space, but I have laptop and external for media (music videos and the like), also hopefully a SSD coming at Christmas time for OS and big programs)

I already have mouse, keyboard, monitor ect ect...
Well how bad is it?




Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 22:09:22
November 25 2011 22:00 GMT
#15253
Anyone?

I really feel like Im being taken for a ride with a free CPU cooler, the Dark knight no less. I figured someone would have come down about the rebates.

Also these case fans for free.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233063
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HikariPrime
Profile Joined May 2011
United States122 Posts
November 25 2011 22:39 GMT
#15254
Here's a build i need help on.

Memory:Western digital 500 gb caviar blue.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136784

CPU: i-5 2500
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073

Mobo: Biostar Z68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138320

Memory: Ripjaws 2x4 gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311

Power: Corsair 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

CD drive: standard cd drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276

Case: Raidmax
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156063

I need a graphics card to go with and critic if you want as well. Im trying to stay under 750, so if you can find better or cheaper parts iid appreciate it. My upgrade cycle is about 4-5 years, I like to play skyrim and bf3 on decent settings. Resolution is 1920x1080( i usually dont play on this resolution though, around 1680x1050) I plan on building it pretty soon while the holidays are still around. No overclock. I'd like to buy all my parts from newegg. Thanks.
poopman
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada83 Posts
November 25 2011 23:30 GMT
#15255
If you aren't planning on OCing, why are you buying a Z68 mobo?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371034 - PSU cause you won't need 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138332 - Mobo

For the graphics card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604
imJukin
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States47 Posts
November 25 2011 23:35 GMT
#15256
Sweet, 1200$ of my 2300$ order went missing from newegg to UPS, have to file a claim and wait even longer for my new pc build.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 00:04:36
November 25 2011 23:40 GMT
#15257
On November 26 2011 06:42 TheTMK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey TL,
I am finally going to man up and do my own build. The Black Friday newegg deals require me to do so.
I want a computer to play Starcraft 2 on basically. I bought it day one and have not had much fun with my woefully incapable laptop. I am at around $560 dollars and would not mind that number going down.
I really appreciate any tips and advice.


Here's what I got... By all means rip it apart!

Case - COOLER MASTER Storm Enforcer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119240

CPU - AMD Phenom II X6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103913
( I am looking to shed some cost and I feel like this may be the spot to do so)

GPU - SAPPHIRE 100323L Radeon HD 6570
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102934

CPU Cooler - COOLER MASTER V6 GT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103089

MotherBoard - ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 AM3 AMD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131660

Power Supply - COOLER MASTER GX 450W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171060

RAM - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345

Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar Blue WD1600AAJB 160GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136112
(Not alot of space, but I have laptop and external for media (music videos and the like), also hopefully a SSD coming at Christmas time for OS and big programs)

I already have mouse, keyboard, monitor ect ect...
Well how bad is it?



Similar case for less: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216

If you don't need much space, it's best to get an SSD now. The Samsung 830 64gb for $95 is a good deal: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147502

The Intel 320 SSDs, $1 per GB are also good deals if you don't mind dealing with a mail in rebate. 80gb for $160 ($80 after mail in rebate) and also a $10 gift card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167048

Buying memory for over $30 during Black Friday / Cyber Monday is a poor decision. GSkill Ripjaws X 1600MHz 8gb kit is available for $30: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428

AMD is a horrible decision. What made you pick one of their processors is beyond me. The core i5 2500k is for $200 and will destroy it: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1055 Pair it with a Asrock P67 Pro3 for $120: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

Though I'm not sure why you are pairing a relatively expensive processor with such a weak graphics card. If you want to lower the total than you should be getting a Pentium G850 / 860 or Core i3 2100 ($110: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078 ) and pairing either of those with a H61 or H67 motherboard instead. These will still outperform the Phenom II X6 in gaming.

You never specified what settings you want to play Starcraft II on or what resolution you play on but I'm going to assume you know that the 6570 is a relatively weak card and you picked it because you will only be playing on low/medium or you are playing at a low resolution.

Power supply choice is also garbage. Corsair CX430 V2 for $37 ($(17 after mail in rebate) is a much better choice: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 23:54:12
November 25 2011 23:49 GMT
#15258
On November 26 2011 07:39 HikariPrime wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Here's a build i need help on.

Memory:Western digital 500 gb caviar blue.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136784

CPU: i-5 2500
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073

Mobo: Biostar Z68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138320

Memory: Ripjaws 2x4 gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311

Power: Corsair 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

CD drive: standard cd drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276

Case: Raidmax
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156063

I need a graphics card to go with and critic if you want as well. Im trying to stay under 750, so if you can find better or cheaper parts iid appreciate it. My upgrade cycle is about 4-5 years, I like to play skyrim and bf3 on decent settings. Resolution is 1920x1080( i usually dont play on this resolution though, around 1680x1050) I plan on building it pretty soon while the holidays are still around. No overclock. I'd like to buy all my parts from newegg. Thanks.


You didn't list pricing or specified the total and I don't have time to bother with tallying the price up right now so sorry.

Your configuration basically sucks.

The 690ii Advanced is a better case and is less expensive at $69 ($49 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216

GSkill 2x4GB 1600MHz for $30: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428

You'll want a K suffix processor such as the core i5 2500k if you will be overclocking for $200: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1055 If you are not overclocking than you can step down to a H61 or H67 motherboard.

Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti for $200 ($180 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125401

There are many quality power supply sales going on. The suggested Antec Earthwatts 430D is not one of them nor is the Corsair TX650 one of them either. Newegg is just clearing old stock of the TX650.

Get the OCZ ZS 650 and a DVD burner for $75 ($50 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341048
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
November 25 2011 23:55 GMT
#15259
So I ended up purchasing the Dark knight for $0.00 after mail in rebates.

I figured since no one here could shoot a hole through it then I might as well give it a shot and find out how free it is going to be in about 6 months or so.

Well there was shipping but thats all.
twitch.tv/medrea
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 26 2011 00:47 GMT
#15260
What's the cheapest motherboard compatible with Bulldozers that can overclock a FX-4100 with voltage tweaks? Multiple options if possible.

Anyone know? What chipset?
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