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Hi TL!
I have an i5-2500k, P67, 6870 system with 4GB of ram, the most I stress my computer is watching 2 streams at a time at good quality, or playing a modern game with a stream open on the other monitor. I can get 8 more GB of ram for $30 from newegg with the black Friday deal. Do i even need it? The consumer in me wants to buy it, but I have no clue if I'm even using my 4 GB! Thanks for the input!
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On November 25 2011 13:34 Detrimentally wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is your budget? $1k max What is your resolution? 1680x1050 What are you using it for? Gaming mainly, College work What is your upgrade cycle? 4-5 years When do you plan on building it? ASAP Do you plan on overclocking? No Do you need an Operating System? Yes Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Not at the moment, but the option would be nice Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg A little side note: I need a wireless card, as well, so if you could give me a suggestion for that, too, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks 
Myrmidon posted a configuration for you in the other thread.
It would be wise to purchase from multiple retailers if you want the best pricing.
I would take a MSI Radeon HD6950 1GB Twin Frozr III for the same price as the GTX 560 Ti: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=64182&promoid=1055
You'll want to switch the motherboard for a Z68 Extreme3 for $125 ($115 after mail in rebate) if you want to do a multi-GPU configuration in the future: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271
If you want to deal with mail in rebates, the Intel 320 80GB is $77 after mail in rebate, it's slower than the Samsung 830 but it's still much faster than an HDD, has a five year warranty, just as reliable, and is 80gb instead of 64gb: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59826&promoid=1055
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with the rising costs of hard drives, is it possible to temporarily use my laptop's sata hard drive for a newly built desktop?
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On November 25 2011 14:03 billy5000 wrote:
with the rising costs of hard drives, is it possible to temporarily use my laptop's sata hard drive for a newly built desktop?
Yes.
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On November 25 2011 13:59 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 13:34 Detrimentally wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is your budget? $1k max What is your resolution? 1680x1050 What are you using it for? Gaming mainly, College work What is your upgrade cycle? 4-5 years When do you plan on building it? ASAP Do you plan on overclocking? No Do you need an Operating System? Yes Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Not at the moment, but the option would be nice Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg A little side note: I need a wireless card, as well, so if you could give me a suggestion for that, too, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Myrmidon posted a configuration for you in the other thread. It would be wise to purchase from multiple retailers if you want the best pricing. I would take a MSI Radeon HD6950 1GB Twin Frozr III for the same price as the GTX 560 Ti: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=64182&promoid=1055You'll want to switch the motherboard for a Z68 Extreme3 for $125 ($115 after mail in rebate) if you want to do a multi-GPU configuration in the future: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271If you want to deal with mail in rebates, the Intel 320 80GB is $77 after mail in rebate, it's slower than the Samsung 830 but it's still much faster than an HDD, has a five year warranty, just as reliable, and is 80gb instead of 64gb: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59826&promoid=1055
Didn't see that. Thanks for the repost! Thanks for the additional suggestions as well. I've never built a computer before so my paranoia is driving me to ask this question; everything I need to build the rig is included in this, correct?
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Except for a screwdriver, yes.
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@Detrimentally:
If you need a wireless adapter and aren't doing large file transfers over your local network all the time and need those to be faster, take this for $10:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704045
Uh, you can take a cheaper case like the BitFenix Shinobi or lower if you really have to stay close or at $1000. Maybe find yourself a hard drive in a brick and mortar store on Black Friday. An external model is fine, since you can just crack that open to get the drive inside.
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Yes, $30 for 8gb is a good deal. On a 1333MHz motherboard such as the H61 or H67, the 1600MHz memory will run at 1333MHz. There is not a noticeable difference between 1333MHz and 1600MHz.
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Your 1600 MHz (that's the specified rating for what it should be able to handle without errors) RAM would be run at a speed of 1333 MHz, so it would be no faster than 1333 MHz rated RAM running at 1333 MHz.
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On November 25 2011 14:21 Myrmidon wrote:@Detrimentally: If you need a wireless adapter and aren't doing large file transfers over your local network all the time and need those to be faster, take this for $10: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704045Uh, you can take a cheaper case like the BitFenix Shinobi or lower if you really have to stay close or at $1000. Maybe find yourself a hard drive in a brick and mortar store on Black Friday. An external model is fine, since you can just crack that open to get the drive inside.
Awesome! Thanks a lot
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I'm going to buy an HDD soon, and these are the two models I'm thinking of
http://www.bimeks.com.tr/compare.aspx
Which one should I pick? I'm using an H61M-P21 MSI Motherboard, Windows 7 64Bit.
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@Bleak:
.aspx page didn't link properly because we don't have your data. Could you link the drives directly?
@billy5000:
Sure, looks fine. How much is shipping from TigerDirect? NCIX (US) has the Celeron for like $52, but that's with free shipping. It should be that every socket 1155 motherboard will be compatible with all socket 1155 Ivy Bridge CPUs, at least after a BIOS update. If not, then getting a higher-end model now probably wouldn't help.
If you want the cheapest, then there's a Biostar option at $50 for you...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138332
I would say to take the Gigabyte model at $55, but it looks like the SATA ports would be blocked by a larger video card if you ever decide to upgrade to something better. It's worth looking at maybe.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128527
edit: on a side note, this isn't worth it now at current pricing with sales and $110 X750s and so on, but Rosewill Capstone is finally released for sale now. That's Super Flower Golden Green Pro (non-modular) in 450W, 550W, 650W, and 750W. 450W starting at $80. Hopefully that drops.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066
But even at MSRP strictly, that's around the same price as the FSP Aurum is currently listed at. These are significantly better, however.
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Get the cheaper one. The interface speed makes no difference for these, and your motherboard doesn't even have SATA3 anyway. Both are single platter drives and should probably have very similar performance.
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Both are SandForce SF-2281 drives, which have a history of BSOD issues and compatibility problems with certain systems. Pretty much all SSDs and hard drives have histories of issues though. Sometimes people are unlucky. All the hate on first-generation SandForce (OCZ Vertex 2, Agility 2, Corsair Force, many others) may not apply to this generation, but it doesn't inspire confidence either. Most users have no problems, but it really seems like the probability of having an issue is significantly higher than with Samsung, Intel, Crucial (after launch firmware issues). The two you linked should have pretty similar performance since they also use the same type of asynchronous NAND flash memory.
It's not really sequential speeds that are that important to most people, and in reality, the SandForce controller does real-time data compression so when dealing with incompressible data, speeds will be significantly slower (but still faster than most SSDs and blazing fast in general).
I'd consider the Samsung 830 64GB at $95 to be a better deal, but if you need more space...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147502
It's not as fast, but the older Samsung 470 128GB is still plenty good. $170 is a fairly good price on that.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147161
Keep in mind that all of the above but the 470 supports SATA3. If you do not have SATA3, then they will be bottlenecked by the interface and would not be much faster than the 470.
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