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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 13:36:44
November 24 2011 13:36 GMT
#15161
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

XIGMATEK Gaia for $5 after. rebate. FIVE DOLLARS.

Seeing as how it's recommended so often here on the forums, I thought I'd give everyone a heads up for anyone making new builds.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 24 2011 13:45 GMT
#15162
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233066

Need new case fans anyone?
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 14:43:00
November 24 2011 14:30 GMT
#15163
However, there was this one Gigabyte SLi/Crossfire board that was really cheap... Was it Gigabyte GA-P67A-D3-B3?

How good is that in comparison to the cheap MSI multi-GPU boards?


It doesn't support SLI. MSI P67A boards seem to use NEC as their USB3.0 controller instead of Etron. Gigabyte's power management, especially with C States, and delivery is the worst of all big boy manufacturers this generation (and probably the previous one too). Gigabyte still doesn't use uEFI in their non-LGA2011 boards, which still baffles me.

So probably not very good. Gigabyte's recent boards are all garbage compared to the competition and I can't imagine MSI doing any worse. Outside setting Thubans on fire, MSI have had a pretty good reputation for their low/mid range offerings.

The only good thing about Gigabyte boards these days is that they're pretty consistent with the chipsets they use so they're good if you want to play around with Mac OS.
SleepTech
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States222 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 15:04:46
November 24 2011 15:04 GMT
#15164
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 24 2011 10:25 SleepTech wrote:
I was going through my SSD boot drive and I noticed that it states that I only have 3GB of space left on the drive. All I have on my SSD is Windows 7 (15gb), SCII (10gb), and a few other small programs that barely add up to 2gb. That's 27gb on a 64gb drive.

How can I go through and check why I'm missing so much space?

I ran TreeSize and got this:
[image loading]

It shows I'm using up around 28GB on my 64GB Crucial M4 SSD. I need to find the missing space!

***UPDATE***
So I found this:
http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Solid-State-Drives-SSD/128-Gig-M4-Win7-64-bit-fresh-intall-uses-nearly-100-gigs-of/m-p/73421/highlight/true#M22642

and the site says to run powercfg -h off in a cmd prompt and after I did that I had my 15.5gb free on my C Drive. So now 28+15.5 is 43.5 so I'm still missing around 15gb of space to hit up around 59gb of the drive.


So an update to this for anyone else who wonders where there HDD space went on their shiny new SSD.

What was happening was the hibernate function was taking up 16GB on my hard drive space and my pagefile was set to 16GB so I turned off the hibernate function using "powercfg -h off" command in a command prompt and then set pagefile to a much lower setting.

This freed up all my missing GB and now all is good. That link in the quote goes over the process as well.
saberslash49
Profile Joined March 2011
24 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 15:17:27
November 24 2011 15:14 GMT
#15165
Hey guys, I'm building a computer and I could really use some advice as a complete novice computer builder..

So I'm building a computer, and the build I'm going by is right here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=287430

There's Black Friday deals of course, and here's 2 I was looking at..

Rosewill Future Case

Cooler Master 460W Power Supply

My questions are..

1. The Rosewill case I listed would be a superior choice to the Xigmatek Asgard II, case I have selected right now, right? And it should have space for all my components?

2. Which power supply would be better? As the thread noted, Antec is a much better brand, but I wasn't sure if the Cooler Master having 60W more power and a $10 decrease would be enough to merit using a "lower" brand. Also, how do you tell if a power supply is modular or not?

EDIT: I just noticed the Cooler Master power supply has a MIR that makes it $20..

Thanks guys! :D

Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 15:27:45
November 24 2011 15:22 GMT
#15166
Black Friday deals are generally ways for retailers to earn quick money off "bargain hunters" or, for successful retailers, to clear useless slow moving stock. Its like...bringing the wonders of capitalism and consumerism to the lower classes...of course you don't discount any of the good stuff. You might find a good deal or two but keep in mind most will be worthless.

1) Probably. The Xigmatek case isn't really more than a tin can.
2) The Elite 460W you listed is exactly the same as the Elite 400W. Hilariously the advertised overcurrent protection is just a blank PCB. Don't be cheap, pay $10 and stick with the Antec.
saberslash49
Profile Joined March 2011
24 Posts
November 24 2011 15:43 GMT
#15167
Ok, thanks! :D
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
November 24 2011 16:31 GMT
#15168
On November 24 2011 15:21 Xingke wrote:
So making final decision on build and can't decide between 560 Ti 1GB and 6950 2GB. Every single thread I've read(countless) is almost 50/50 split on them.

The 560 seems to bench higher in a few games I play more often(SC2, Civ 5) and everyone says the 2GB will do better at larger resolutions + multi monitor setups.


I currently play on 1600x900 and don't see myself ever going past 1080p when I get a new monitor. I also will never be multi-monitor gaming, the 2nd will be used purely for browsers and assorted stuff to have up to look @ between/during games if needed, and to expand my workspace for programming/working/etc.

I plan on picking up Battlefield 3 before too long and would like to play on at least High settings with good framerates. Help me decide T_T


Also was looking at the MSI Twin Frozr versions of both of these. Most reading I saw said they run cooler than the Asus DCII versions, and come with higher factory overclocks. I'm not that concerned about the fact that the 6950 might be unlockable to 6970 shaders either. I don't want that alone to be the reason I would get it.


dunno about civ5, but both cards will run sc2 just dandy. since you're fixing to play bf3, id go with the 6950 as all the benchmarks ive seen have it rated above the 560ti. here is one such review: http://www.techspot.com/review/458-battlefield-3-performance/page5.html
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Mordoc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States162 Posts
November 24 2011 17:29 GMT
#15169
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824262011
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167049


Getting the above for a sweet black friday deal, about $230.

Any comments; is this about right; anyone have experience with either of these; worth the buy?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 24 2011 17:44 GMT
#15170
Monitor is worth the buy I guess.. SSD is just regular pricing.
YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 19:30:31
November 24 2011 19:21 GMT
#15171
mobo + processor bundle: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60177&vpn=2500K & P67A-G43&manufacture=Bundle Deal

psu: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57623&vpn=ST75F-G&manufacture=Silverstone Technology OR http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57600&vpn=X-760 Gold&manufacture=Seasonic Electronics (he needs 750w if he considers ever buying a second video card in the future right? :o)

ram: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59974&vpn=F3-10666CL9D-8GBSR&manufacture=G.Skill

case: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=38996&vpn=RC-922M-KKN1-GP&manufacture=COOLERMASTER

SSD: could anyone recommend me a good SSD thats around 60 to 80GB max?

Hard Drives: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65558&vpn=WD6400AARS&manufacture=Western Digital WD OR http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&vpn=ST500DM002&manufacture=Seagate

CD Drives: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45667&vpn=SH-S243D/BEBE&manufacture=Samsung

Heatsink: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&vpn=RR-B10-212P-G1&manufacture=COOLERMASTER

Anyone would change any parts to this setup? And I might sound a bit dumb but does he need two windows cd-keys since he's going to use a SSD + HardDrive or he only needs to install windows on the SSD?


edit: fuck i had forgot the video card -.- Video Card: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55077&vpn=01G-P3-1370-TR&manufacture=eVGA
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 24 2011 20:14 GMT
#15172
get the cheapest dvd burner instead

That case's not too good and if overpriced, would rather just get HAF 912 as it's got better features and it's like half the price

RAM overpriced, get cheapest 8b 1333/1600mhz ram


you won't be able to find a GTX 460 later and that PSU is overkill and just ridiculous anyway, also you wouldnt even consider buying a second card later on for sli, either do it now or never. You'd get a GTX 570 for the same price if you don't account for sli possibility.

GTX 460 isn't an intelligent choice in any case, 6870 is same price and scales better into crossfire and is better anyway.

Heatsink is allright I guess but for just 5$ more I'd get the EVO.



Do pricematching also, gosh. At least check directcanada and bestdirect.

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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 22:26:19
November 24 2011 22:09 GMT
#15173
Really tempted to pick this up.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103195&cm_mmc=BF2011_listing-_-48-_-N82E16814103195&nm_mc=BF2011_listing

Is it available somewhere else for even better?

300 dollar 5970 seems pretty slick.

EDIT: Also looking for a sweet graphics card. I would even go nVidia this time around if the price is right.

I guess for comparisons use a 5830. Something better than that.
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Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 18:17:11
November 24 2011 23:23 GMT
#15174
So this is my first time computer build, and it's going to have one hard drive for windows, and one hard drive for a hackintosh.

The games I'm planning to play are Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, and possibly things like Skyrim
I'm also planning to stream, as well as hook up to a widescreen tv besides just my monitor for streamwatching purposes.
I don't want my budget to above 1300$

I'm getting a gtx 560ti to cover myself for gaming over the next 4 years, with sli if it really does become that outdated.

I'm pretty much hoping that someone will double check and tell me all these parts are compatible(the motherboard was stolen off of a hackintosh website as one that works, and it also does what i want).


Processor: Intel i5-2500k
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-BOX80623I52500K-Core-i5-2500K-Processor/dp/B004EBUXHQ/ref=pd_cp_e_3
200$
Graphics: GTX-560ti
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127578
260$


Motherboard: z68 is what i wanted
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Intel-DDR3-Motherboards-GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3/dp/B00518M74I/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
160$

Power Supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087
110$

Heat Sink filter: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10-212P-G1/dp/B002G1YPH0/ref=pd_sim_e_3
26$

Case: Cooler Master RC-932K-KN5-GP HAF 932 Advanced Full Tower Computer Case - Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160
110$

Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104173
40$
Hard Drive:
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-7200RPM-Cache-3-5-Inch/dp/B002RWJHBM/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
173$

For mac
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148725&cm_sp=Cat_Hard_Drives-_-72_Hr_Sale-_-22-148-725
70$

CD Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
16$

Wireless: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704045
10$

Mouse:
http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Deathadder-Precision-Infrared-Gaming/dp/B004M8ZY0W/ref=sr_1_11?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1322244844&sr=1-11
56$

Total 1221$

Any way I can cut some price corners?


thanks to skyR and myrmidon
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 24 2011 23:30 GMT
#15175
You can cut down on the case.

Your GTX 560 Ti is stupidly overpriced. If you want a Twin Frozr II, just get it for $240: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127594

I'm not sure why you are getting a Twin Frozr II at $270, the Twin Frozr III is less expensive and also clocked higher: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127578

X750 for $110 is HOT HOT and it is stupid not to buy this over a HX650 or any other similar power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087

NCIX's new sale starts tonight and I'm pretty sure there's going to be some less expensive case that's better or equal to the HAF 932 and the 212+ will be less expensive than $26, probably some motherboard sale as well.
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
November 24 2011 23:37 GMT
#15176
On November 25 2011 08:30 skyR wrote:
You can cut down on the case.

Your GTX 560 Ti is stupidly overpriced. If you want a Twin Frozr II, just get it for $240: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127594

I'm not sure why you are getting a Twin Frozr II at $270, the Twin Frozr III is less expensive and also clocked higher: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127578

X750 for $110 is HOT HOT and it is stupid not to buy this over a HX650 or any other similar power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087

NCIX's new sale starts tonight and I'm pretty sure there's going to be some less expensive case that's better or equal to the HAF 932 and the 212+ will be less expensive than $26, probably some motherboard sale as well.


Thanks a ton dude! I'll definitely look into that sale for even more price cutting. Got any ideas on say a wireless card or CD drive?
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 24 2011 23:42 GMT
#15177
Networking is not my forte but you'll probably want a USB one if you are going to be going SLI or be limited to a legacy PCI one.

Unless you need something specific, just get the least expensive burner which would be this for $16: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
Tribute
Profile Joined September 2010
United States146 Posts
November 25 2011 00:13 GMT
#15178
I'm planning on upgrading my cpu/mb sometime within the next 3-6 months, want to pick up an i5-2500k. Currently for Black Friday it's $20 off on Newegg, should I be picking this up now?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 00:19:16
November 25 2011 00:16 GMT
#15179
re: wireless card

Unless you need to transfer large files quickly across your home network (over wireless), a single antenna model is generally fine. If both sides are 802.11n compliant, with multiple antennas on both sides, you can have multiple spatial streams to increase the data rate. For almost everybody, their connection to the ISP is the bottleneck however, so it's really a moot point.

Models with external antennas that are not affixed to the back of your case (where the signal is being blocked by the chassis and may not be in a good place for reception even disregarding that) are preferred.

Just look for something with relatively high customer reviews and hope for the best. This meets all the criteria and is $10:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704045


On November 25 2011 09:13 Tribute wrote:
I'm planning on upgrading my cpu/mb sometime within the next 3-6 months, want to pick up an i5-2500k. Currently for Black Friday it's $20 off on Newegg, should I be picking this up now?


Sure, i5-2500k is fine. But in less than 6 months, there will be a new generation of processors, meaning probably a replacement to the i5-2500k with similar price but slightly-to-somewhat higher performance and definitely lower power consumption. It's probably not a huge deal.

Why 3-6 months? Are you buying the CPU + motherboard now but not actually using them? If you won't be using them in the meantime, it's probably worth waiting. Otherwise, just get the i5-2500k and be happy.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 25 2011 00:16 GMT
#15180
On November 25 2011 09:13 Tribute wrote:
I'm planning on upgrading my cpu/mb sometime within the next 3-6 months, want to pick up an i5-2500k. Currently for Black Friday it's $20 off on Newegg, should I be picking this up now?


If it's going to sit on your shelf for three months, no.
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