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All-Korean quarterfinal bracket set in WCS America - Page 5

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rudimentalfeelthelov
Profile Joined December 2013
Finland268 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 14:08:09
April 07 2014 14:01 GMT
#81
This WCS AM brackets goes against pretty much the whole concept and idea of regional WCS tournaments. It is painstakingly obvious that NA players just aren't on par with the rest, so having a regional WCS with the same prize pool like Korea and Europe is pointless. Just give 80% of prize money for WCS AM to GSL, expand GSL player slots so it can sustain more players and have a smaller NA WCS with 20% of prize pool with full region lock so all (three) American pro gamers huk, scarlett and desrow can compete against each other and are guaranteed some easy bucks. (P.S. and the official game should be changed from SC2 to payday 2 since judging from streams they prefer that)
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
April 07 2014 14:04 GMT
#82
If the end goal of the league is to pay huk and desrow a few easy bucks than you need to take your business plan back to the drawing board
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12882 Posts
April 07 2014 14:06 GMT
#83
Polt the America hope
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 15:46:58
April 07 2014 14:08 GMT
#84
Forget the whiners, this top 8 bracket is sickkkkkkk
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NihilisticGod
Profile Joined March 2011
Northern Ireland174 Posts
April 07 2014 14:16 GMT
#85
Maybe its just me but I thought the idea of a tournament was the best player won? Not the player who was born in the country the tournament is in.... no tournament is run like that, grow up lol.

This fellow has the right idea!..
On April 07 2014 23:08 Yorkie wrote:
Forget the whiners, this top 8 bracket it sickkkkkkk




Too weird to live... too rare to die.
anestetic
Profile Joined October 2013
13 Posts
April 07 2014 14:24 GMT
#86
a US tournament confirmed as one of the best EU tournaments in which koreans are dominating...(I really can't get enogh of this :D ) the intercontinental is strong in ESL :D
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
April 07 2014 14:24 GMT
#87
I wonder if Liquipedia has to count this as a European Premier Tournament now, for example when it comes to Triple Crown etc
Totorosc2
Profile Joined September 2012
France8 Posts
April 07 2014 14:27 GMT
#88
We already had some good games from American players in Challenger/RO32/RO16.
It was great to see desRow win against Apocalypse in Challenger or Major take the first series against Taeja. Puck/Neeb gave us exciting games and were very close to make it to RO8.
If you want to see American player, you should watch the early rounds, there are plenty of them.

Same things goes for WCS EU, I always have great time watching the qualifiers to challenger to see new players like MarineLord, Lilbow, or ABomb.

The last stages are for the really best. WCS should favored regional players for the qualifiers, nothing more.

sigm
Profile Joined December 2010
192 Posts
April 07 2014 14:28 GMT
#89
WCS America, run by europeans and filled to the brim with asian players. Makes sense, if you think about it.
lystier
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
China877 Posts
April 07 2014 14:31 GMT
#90
Bomber!!!!
Startale forever.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
April 07 2014 14:39 GMT
#91
On April 07 2014 22:01 zev318 wrote:
so many AM tears, nom nom nom

that's like saying yo the NBA should dedicate 30% of their rosters to people not from america, regardless of the fact that there are better players in america.

You do realise the NBA is already at 20% with 92 rostered foreigners. The best record in the league is held by a team stacked with foreigners (Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, Splitter, Diaw, Mills, Bellinelli). It's just not a good analogy.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
April 07 2014 14:45 GMT
#92
On April 07 2014 23:28 sigm wrote:
WCS America, run by europeans and filled to the brim with asian players. Makes sense, if you think about it.


Still makes more sense to the scene that run by americans (who? MLG is busy, NASL doesn't exist anymore) filled with americans only?
To get the number of players there currently is, you'd have to go as far as asking complete no-name. Could be cool for them, but you'd get <2000 viewers and a really low level of play, and that counts a bit apparently.
EU is in the same situation to some extent, as there are really few european players that are relevant in a korean heavy competition.

I think it's up to the americans to develop their local scene, and thus help talents rise to the top locally, and then challenge the mighty Koreans. TB does that a bit with Shoutcraft I'd say, but it's far from enough.
LiquipediaWanderer
Gouka
Profile Joined April 2014
Brazil11 Posts
April 07 2014 14:46 GMT
#93
I get kinda frustrated when I don't see any foreigner player going far in WCS tournaments. But, I think it's not fault of Blizzard or Koreans.

(Guys, I'm relatively new to SC2 programing scene. Can someone explain me why some people says that Polt is American or something like this?)
JinAir sOs
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 07 2014 14:52 GMT
#94
The amount of Irony in this topic is OVER 9000!! :D

As for the WCS AM, let the best Korean win!
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 14:53:37
April 07 2014 14:53 GMT
#95
On April 07 2014 23:46 Gouka wrote:
I get kinda frustrated when I don't see any foreigner player going far in WCS tournaments. But, I think it's not fault of Blizzard or Koreans.

(Guys, I'm relatively new to SC2 programing scene. Can someone explain me why some people says that Polt is American or something like this?)


It's a joke, people did the same with Stephano a while ago, chanting "USA USA USA" when he was winning.
It's partly based on Polt moving to the USA to study there. Also, he was known to have the best english amongst Korean (before moving there, as it improved subsequently).
LiquipediaWanderer
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1841 Posts
April 07 2014 14:53 GMT
#96
On April 07 2014 23:46 Gouka wrote:
I get kinda frustrated when I don't see any foreigner player going far in WCS tournaments. But, I think it's not fault of Blizzard or Koreans.

(Guys, I'm relatively new to SC2 programing scene. Can someone explain me why some people says that Polt is American or something like this?)


He goes to University in the USA, in Texas, actually. (Not sure if he graduated or if he still lives here)
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Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
April 07 2014 14:56 GMT
#97
On April 07 2014 23:46 Gouka wrote:
I get kinda frustrated when I don't see any foreigner player going far in WCS tournaments. But, I think it's not fault of Blizzard or Koreans.

(Guys, I'm relatively new to SC2 programing scene. Can someone explain me why some people says that Polt is American or something like this?)

It's a long running joke on TL based on the fact that Polt is living and studying in the US.

Also, there seems to be a thing where anyone doing good will be adopted by Americans, see Stephano. Even before that "Team USA!" at the global championship had a Canadian and a bunch of Europeans on it.
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
April 07 2014 15:43 GMT
#98
On April 07 2014 23:27 Totorosc2 wrote:
We already had some good games from American players in Challenger/RO32/RO16.
It was great to see desRow win against Apocalypse in Challenger or Major take the first series against Taeja. Puck/Neeb gave us exciting games and were very close to make it to RO8.
If you want to see American player, you should watch the early rounds, there are plenty of them.

Same things goes for WCS EU, I always have great time watching the qualifiers to challenger to see new players like MarineLord, Lilbow, or ABomb.

The last stages are for the really best. WCS should favored regional players for the qualifiers, nothing more.



This dude knows what's up. WCS allows foreigners to showcase who they are and their skills in the early rounds, and if one of them advances to the part where it's the best of the best playing, then we know they're damned good!
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TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
April 07 2014 16:35 GMT
#99
I thought that there is a region lock this season?
Science>Mechanics
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
April 07 2014 16:58 GMT
#100
On April 08 2014 01:35 TitusVI wrote:
I thought that there is a region lock this season?


There is a soft region lock, meaning only a limited number of new Koreans can join forces with the 175 or so that were already there...

...and this is where the problem lies imo. Just limit the number of Koreans in the WCS AM and WCS EU to let's say 5 each. (To be fair, we can limit the number of Europeans and Americans to 5 for participating in WCS KR too.) Are there more interested in participating? Let there be a pre-qualification tournament, problem solved. All people from outside their own region will have to get 200 wins on the ladder and go through qualifiers and challenger league every single season. Let invaders earn their bread properly. This would ensure plenty of opportunity for WCS EU and AM to study, practice and play against the most fearsome invaders regularly, no matter where they are from. And for the fans of the invaders it will ensure additional matches to watch these players too, so everyone should be happy, no? One way or the other, there is a need to build the AM scene, and quite frankly, what we see now is not really doing that.
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