On April 08 2014 01:58 BaneRiders wrote: To be fair, we can limit the number of Europeans and Americans to 5 for participating in WCS KR too.
That would still be about twice as much as there are actual non-Korean participants in the Code A qualifiers each season. It's not exactly a prime destination for western players.
I wish that the WCS was regional locked, only americans in WCS America....only Europians in WCS EU, Only Koreans in WCS KR.....But I guess this will never happen. T_T
I dont really understand the mindset that is behind all this. There are thousands of NA players and a big community so are u guys not interested to see whos the best of NA? Sure koreans are the best but when u want to see the best u can watch gsl. How can a community grow or enjoy themself when they have no stage to participate.
The only ones ruining e-sports are american players themselves. I'd love for more players to be up there, but their skill is simply not close to Koreans/Chinese with maybe 1-2 "exceptions". You can blame it on the format, but it'd be a dumb move by blizzard to region lock WCS AM when players are so far behind in skill level.
I realize that the fact that WCS AM is filled with koreans only makes it harder for American heroes to step up in the only league for the whole continent, leading to financial instability and a loss in motivation for the players, but notable examples like Scarlett show that you can thrive under this circumstances and be a top notch player anyway.
On April 08 2014 02:25 TitusVI wrote: I dont really understand the mindset that is behind all this. There are thousands of NA players and a big community so are u guys not interested to see whos the best of NA? Sure koreans are the best but when u want to see the best u can watch gsl. How can a community grow or enjoy themself when they have no stage to participate.
exactly this. sadly there's a large proportion of users that think that any game that doesn't feature two top-10 players in the world going off against each other is automatically not worth watching, regardless of parity between players, exciting playstyles etc. i guess by their rationale we should never watch college basketball, any soccer that isn't featuring bayern/real/barca, the cleveland browns
On April 08 2014 02:25 TitusVI wrote: I dont really understand the mindset that is behind all this. There are thousands of NA players and a big community so are u guys not interested to see whos the best of NA? Sure koreans are the best but when u want to see the best u can watch gsl. How can a community grow or enjoy themself when they have no stage to participate.
exactly this. sadly there's a large proportion of users that think that any game that doesn't feature two top-10 players in the world going off against each other is automatically not worth watching, regardless of parity between players, exciting playstyles etc. i guess by their rationale we should never watch college basketball, any soccer that isn't featuring bayern/real/barca, the cleveland browns
But this bracket doesn't have any top 10 players in it. It just looks like a pointless low tier GSL.
On April 08 2014 02:25 TitusVI wrote: I dont really understand the mindset that is behind all this. There are thousands of NA players and a big community so are u guys not interested to see whos the best of NA? Sure koreans are the best but when u want to see the best u can watch gsl. How can a community grow or enjoy themself when they have no stage to participate.
That's the hellhole known as the Starcraft community, it rages upon no "high-quality content" yet unleashes rage on not having enough support for their own fundamental player base, because supporting them means "low quality content", despite enough has been proved by TB and others that with enough attention and professionalism even NA Starcraft can provide enough entertainment and stand on its own.
On April 08 2014 02:51 vult wrote: Blizzard wants to at least get some money in from viewers and as revenue, which is something they most likely wouldn't get with a solely NA roster.
It's not as if we will ever find out if WCS AM continues with the current format, that is for sure...
why are these wcs tours called america / europe... its just hilarious... i wouldnt watch uefa champions league either with only korean teams. these players are no americans / europeans and they dont deserve to play and dominate an other region than korea. just for the reason they have no chance at their home region
While I would enjoy seeing more NA players in WCS AM (more emotion, generally smaller language barrier, etc).
At the end of the day, most NA (and EU) players simply aren't good enough compared to Koreans, and I'd rather see them stomped in WCS EU/AM then at the global finals.
For the first time in four seasons, WCS has gone from being almost all Korean quarter finals to an all Korean finals. A Chinese player almost made it through while no North Americans made it through, though completely expected.
Unfortunately HuK came up short despite Protoss currently being the strongest it has ever been.
On April 07 2014 22:26 govie wrote: If i were blizzard or consumer this would not make me happy. AM needs AM contribution, atleast very far in the tournament. Maybe they can patch the game in such a way that it buffs the top AM players for next season.
Tbh, people would be less pissy if NA players actually had a separate means of competing regionally... repeatedly losing in qualifiers and groups to korean's far superior limits all tournament opportunities NA players have :/ You guys can bitch and moan all you want about players "needing to improve", but with such a lack of genuine competition opportunity and a depleted local standard of quality, how can you expect NA players to ever improve? Being punted out of the only regional tournament in round 1 of a qualifier by a random Korean isn't exactly beneficial ><
On April 08 2014 03:31 Mentalo wrote: why are these wcs tours called america / europe... its just hilarious... i wouldnt watch uefa champions league either with only korean teams. these players are no americans / europeans and they dont deserve to play and dominate an other region than korea. just for the reason they have no chance at their home region
Yeah because only Europeans play in EU football clubs...
On April 08 2014 02:25 TitusVI wrote: I dont really understand the mindset that is behind all this. There are thousands of NA players and a big community so are u guys not interested to see whos the best of NA? Sure koreans are the best but when u want to see the best u can watch gsl. How can a community grow or enjoy themself when they have no stage to participate.
exactly this. sadly there's a large proportion of users that think that any game that doesn't feature two top-10 players in the world going off against each other is automatically not worth watching, regardless of parity between players, exciting playstyles etc. i guess by their rationale we should never watch college basketball, any soccer that isn't featuring bayern/real/barca, the cleveland browns
But this bracket doesn't have any top 10 players in it. It just looks like a pointless low tier GSL.
How many times do players like Polt and Taeja need to stomp GSL heros before people drop this stupid mentality?