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Dalnore
Profile Joined May 2013
Russian Federation66 Posts
April 07 2014 17:02 GMT
#101
On April 08 2014 01:35 TitusVI wrote:
I thought that there is a region lock this season?

There is very soft region constraint, not a region lock. There are qualifiers only for players from several regions (like America, China and so on).
sigm
Profile Joined December 2010
192 Posts
April 07 2014 17:10 GMT
#102
On April 08 2014 01:58 BaneRiders wrote:
To be fair, we can limit the number of Europeans and Americans to 5 for participating in WCS KR too.

That would still be about twice as much as there are actual non-Korean participants in the Code A qualifiers each season. It's not exactly a prime destination for western players.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 07 2014 17:14 GMT
#103
WCS America, featuring 8 South Koreans played from Germany...

We obviously have a problem. They need to hold the finals in Rio next season.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10847 Posts
April 07 2014 17:17 GMT
#104
I wish that the WCS was regional locked, only americans in WCS America....only Europians in WCS EU, Only Koreans in WCS KR.....But I guess this will never happen. T_T
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TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
April 07 2014 17:25 GMT
#105
I dont really understand the mindset that is behind all this. There are thousands of NA players and a big community so are u guys not interested to see whos the best of NA? Sure koreans are the best but when u want to see the best u can watch gsl. How can a community grow or enjoy themself when they have no stage to participate.
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Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
April 07 2014 17:28 GMT
#106
I'm guessing this wouldn't happen if SC2 was actually popular in Korea and players had opportunities over there.
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Shousan
Profile Joined March 2011
Mexico92 Posts
April 07 2014 17:31 GMT
#107
The only ones ruining e-sports are american players themselves. I'd love for more players to be up there, but their skill is simply not close to Koreans/Chinese with maybe 1-2 "exceptions". You can blame it on the format, but it'd be a dumb move by blizzard to region lock WCS AM when players are so far behind in skill level.

I realize that the fact that WCS AM is filled with koreans only makes it harder for American heroes to step up in the only league for the whole continent, leading to financial instability and a loss in motivation for the players, but notable examples like Scarlett show that you can thrive under this circumstances and be a top notch player anyway.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
April 07 2014 17:35 GMT
#108
On April 08 2014 02:25 TitusVI wrote:
I dont really understand the mindset that is behind all this. There are thousands of NA players and a big community so are u guys not interested to see whos the best of NA? Sure koreans are the best but when u want to see the best u can watch gsl. How can a community grow or enjoy themself when they have no stage to participate.


exactly this. sadly there's a large proportion of users that think that any game that doesn't feature two top-10 players in the world going off against each other is automatically not worth watching, regardless of parity between players, exciting playstyles etc. i guess by their rationale we should never watch college basketball, any soccer that isn't featuring bayern/real/barca, the cleveland browns
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
April 07 2014 17:37 GMT
#109
they should just disband wcs na ; ;
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Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
April 07 2014 17:38 GMT
#110
On April 08 2014 02:35 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 02:25 TitusVI wrote:
I dont really understand the mindset that is behind all this. There are thousands of NA players and a big community so are u guys not interested to see whos the best of NA? Sure koreans are the best but when u want to see the best u can watch gsl. How can a community grow or enjoy themself when they have no stage to participate.


exactly this. sadly there's a large proportion of users that think that any game that doesn't feature two top-10 players in the world going off against each other is automatically not worth watching, regardless of parity between players, exciting playstyles etc. i guess by their rationale we should never watch college basketball, any soccer that isn't featuring bayern/real/barca, the cleveland browns


But this bracket doesn't have any top 10 players in it. It just looks like a pointless low tier GSL.
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
April 07 2014 17:51 GMT
#111
This happens literally every time a thread like this comes about. Whine over nationality distribution.

These are the same people who whined for better players and games rather than mid-GM NA Americans who will just get destroyed by pros/Polt.

Blizzard wants to at least get some money in from viewers and as revenue, which is something they most likely wouldn't get with a solely NA roster.
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 07 2014 18:12 GMT
#112
On April 08 2014 02:38 Kergy wrote:
But this bracket doesn't have any top 10 players in it. It just looks like a pointless low tier GSL.


Hurrdurr, anything other than glorious proleague masterrace is not worth watching, hurrdurr.

Such an obnoxious attitude.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 18:18:21
April 07 2014 18:16 GMT
#113
On April 08 2014 02:25 TitusVI wrote:
I dont really understand the mindset that is behind all this. There are thousands of NA players and a big community so are u guys not interested to see whos the best of NA? Sure koreans are the best but when u want to see the best u can watch gsl. How can a community grow or enjoy themself when they have no stage to participate.

That's the hellhole known as the Starcraft community, it rages upon no "high-quality content" yet unleashes rage on not having enough support for their own fundamental player base, because supporting them means "low quality content", despite enough has been proved by TB and others that with enough attention and professionalism even NA Starcraft can provide enough entertainment and stand on its own.

EDIT: syntaxes and typos.
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
April 07 2014 18:23 GMT
#114
On April 08 2014 02:51 vult wrote:
Blizzard wants to at least get some money in from viewers and as revenue, which is something they most likely wouldn't get with a solely NA roster.


It's not as if we will ever find out if WCS AM continues with the current format, that is for sure...
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Mentalo
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany5 Posts
April 07 2014 18:31 GMT
#115
why are these wcs tours called america / europe... its just hilarious... i wouldnt watch uefa champions league either with only korean teams.
these players are no americans / europeans and they dont deserve to play and dominate an other region than korea. just for the reason they have no chance at their home region
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
April 07 2014 18:32 GMT
#116
While I would enjoy seeing more NA players in WCS AM (more emotion, generally smaller language barrier, etc).

At the end of the day, most NA (and EU) players simply aren't good enough compared to Koreans, and I'd rather see them stomped in WCS EU/AM then at the global finals.
Prolet
Profile Joined July 2012
United States37 Posts
April 07 2014 18:36 GMT
#117
For the first time in four seasons, WCS has gone from being almost all Korean quarter finals to an all Korean finals. A Chinese player almost made it through while no North Americans made it through, though completely expected.

Unfortunately HuK came up short despite Protoss currently being the strongest it has ever been.
Vertigro
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 18:41:43
April 07 2014 18:41 GMT
#118
On April 07 2014 22:26 govie wrote:
If i were blizzard or consumer this would not make me happy. AM needs AM contribution, atleast very far in the tournament. Maybe they can patch the game in such a way that it buffs the top AM players for next season.

Tbh, people would be less pissy if NA players actually had a separate means of competing regionally... repeatedly losing in qualifiers and groups to korean's far superior limits all tournament opportunities NA players have :/
You guys can bitch and moan all you want about players "needing to improve", but with such a lack of genuine competition opportunity and a depleted local standard of quality, how can you expect NA players to ever improve? Being punted out of the only regional tournament in round 1 of a qualifier by a random Korean isn't exactly beneficial ><
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Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
April 07 2014 18:41 GMT
#119
On April 08 2014 03:31 Mentalo wrote:
why are these wcs tours called america / europe... its just hilarious... i wouldnt watch uefa champions league either with only korean teams.
these players are no americans / europeans and they dont deserve to play and dominate an other region than korea. just for the reason they have no chance at their home region


Yeah because only Europeans play in EU football clubs...
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
April 07 2014 18:45 GMT
#120
On April 08 2014 02:38 Kergy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 02:35 sixfour wrote:
On April 08 2014 02:25 TitusVI wrote:
I dont really understand the mindset that is behind all this. There are thousands of NA players and a big community so are u guys not interested to see whos the best of NA? Sure koreans are the best but when u want to see the best u can watch gsl. How can a community grow or enjoy themself when they have no stage to participate.


exactly this. sadly there's a large proportion of users that think that any game that doesn't feature two top-10 players in the world going off against each other is automatically not worth watching, regardless of parity between players, exciting playstyles etc. i guess by their rationale we should never watch college basketball, any soccer that isn't featuring bayern/real/barca, the cleveland browns


But this bracket doesn't have any top 10 players in it. It just looks like a pointless low tier GSL.


How many times do players like Polt and Taeja need to stomp GSL heros before people drop this stupid mentality?
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