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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8971 Posts
April 07 2014 11:42 GMT
#61
So nice 8 Koreans advanced. Now they can get a group rate at the German embassy.
ॐ
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
April 07 2014 11:43 GMT
#62
On April 07 2014 19:48 AxiomBlurr wrote:
Do not rule out Alicia....or Arthur for that matter....

lol they really are second tier compared to guys like Hyun/Taeja/Polt/Bomber

They might get an upset but no way they're winning the whole thing.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
April 07 2014 11:44 GMT
#63
On April 07 2014 20:13 maartendq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 17:40 Dodgin wrote:
On April 07 2014 17:22 azzih wrote:
The whole WCS system is a joke. Just cancel the regional seperation and make it a normal tournament, maybe directly in korea. I dont blame the players using the easy route through the weaker US qualifier, i blame the stupid rules that enable such "cheating".


WCS AM is the toughest region though

For Americans, sure, but not for Koreans.


Really? Not the toughest to get to the Ro16 maybe.

But I think the Koreans involved don't think it'll be easy to win the whole thing.

E.g. I don't think Alicia and Arthur are thinking it'll easy, right now...
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LinaiL
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany96 Posts
April 07 2014 11:46 GMT
#64
Whats up wit all the butthurt in this thread? oO
I would like a scenario where you have a few non korean players mixed in aswell (like in EU) but is it really Blizzards fault that the NA players cannot compete on the highest level?
Would you rather like an all american Ro8 where the America representatives get absolutely crushed at the global finals? Maybe take some pride in Polt and cheer for him if you need someone to identify with
Guileful
Profile Joined November 2012
Kazakhstan137 Posts
April 07 2014 11:48 GMT
#65
You'd better not leave aside Revival and I think he'll met Taeja in the finals
yido
Profile Joined March 2014
United States350 Posts
April 07 2014 12:04 GMT
#66
On April 07 2014 20:22 Kyir wrote:
and that's where I stop watching again

This is where I start watching again. lmfao

gl hf
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands657 Posts
April 07 2014 12:13 GMT
#67
On April 07 2014 20:46 LinaiL wrote:
Whats up wit all the butthurt in this thread? oO
I would like a scenario where you have a few non korean players mixed in aswell (like in EU) but is it really Blizzards fault that the NA players cannot compete on the highest level?
Would you rather like an all american Ro8 where the America representatives get absolutely crushed at the global finals? Maybe take some pride in Polt and cheer for him if you need someone to identify with


Yeah, I don't get it either. WCS 2012 severely limited the number of Koreans at the global finals and represented the entire world rather fairly. While there were small upsets like IdrA getting out of his group 4-0 against HerO and Stephano (I think?) and Sen performing really well, in the end most of the matches were Korean stomps. That was in a time when foreigners could still win or get far in premier tournaments (mostly Stephano, but still).

WCS 2013 was AMAZING gamewise and storywise. The story of Innovation & Soulkey in Season 1, Bomber winning Season 2 with an amazing run, Dear winning WCS KR & Global in Season 3, sOs coming out of nowhere to win Global finals dominantly. I think I'll never forget season 2 - Grubby beat Mvp and felt amazing, Jaedong finally beats Protoss, Scarlett beat Maru & MMA and almost Bomber, duckdeok had probably one of the best moments of his life when he won WCS EU, Polt started his domination of WCS NA, Taeja vs. Innovation happened.

The most exciting thing about seeing non-Koreans get far was that they always got there on their own merit. Scarlett and Naniwa didn't get charity seeds, they just played better and won their matches fair and square, which is far more exciting. I sincerely hope we get more foreigners like them in WCS NA & WCS EU, but the best Starcraft players deserve to be at Global Finals. And they are all Korean at the moment.
Cute
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
April 07 2014 12:13 GMT
#68
thursday till sunday will be legendary
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Trustworthy-Tony
Profile Joined March 2014
Tanzania187 Posts
April 07 2014 12:15 GMT
#69
i dont get the hate on the koreans

game quality > everything else

if you disagree, you're ruining esports!
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
April 07 2014 12:22 GMT
#70
On April 07 2014 21:15 Trustworthy-Tony wrote:


if you disagree, you're ruining esports!

i cant tell if this phrase is serious or not anymore when people use it
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
April 07 2014 12:31 GMT
#71
Blizzard does everything they can to limit and get rid of Koreans in foreign WCS. But they cant just straight-up kick existing Koreans out of the leagues, thats your responsibility NA/EU gamers. Shame on you if you are so incompetent to do that one simple thing.
PolarSel
Profile Joined October 2013
United States18 Posts
April 07 2014 12:48 GMT
#72
Even though people are complaining about the Koreans in America, on the bright side the race distribution for this entire tournament has been pretty awesome. Glad to see everything is balancing out. Gogo OZ!
Just have some damn fun! That's why we play games right? -Day9
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
April 07 2014 13:01 GMT
#73
so many AM tears, nom nom nom

that's like saying yo the NBA should dedicate 30% of their rosters to people not from america, regardless of the fact that there are better players in america.
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
April 07 2014 13:08 GMT
#74
On April 07 2014 20:44 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 20:13 maartendq wrote:
On April 07 2014 17:40 Dodgin wrote:
On April 07 2014 17:22 azzih wrote:
The whole WCS system is a joke. Just cancel the regional seperation and make it a normal tournament, maybe directly in korea. I dont blame the players using the easy route through the weaker US qualifier, i blame the stupid rules that enable such "cheating".


WCS AM is the toughest region though

For Americans, sure, but not for Koreans.


Really? Not the toughest to get to the Ro16 maybe.

But I think the Koreans involved don't think it'll be easy to win the whole thing.

E.g. I don't think Alicia and Arthur are thinking it'll easy, right now...

The majority of players in the Ro16 of GSL would be a favourite if they were in WCS AM instead.
SoS, Life, Soulkey, Dear, Mary, Zest, Rain, Parting, Soo, herO. These guys would murder anyone in either EU or AM.

So Arthur or Alicia might have a tough time in Ro8 AM, but they would never even qualify for GSL in the first place.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 13:10:18
April 07 2014 13:09 GMT
#75
I really dislike that Arthur got a mirror and not Polt/Taeja
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 07 2014 13:26 GMT
#76
I am still suprised some people want to see NA players go up against the monsters from Code S in Korea. desRow vs Maru - yea right, what an amazing match up... not. This is obviously not against desRow, but the NA level is simply not high enough. An in shape Scarlett is fucking scary and she can beat the very best if she brings her a-game. Thats what we want to see. We saw Naniwa beat INnoVation. Thats upsets that are deserved. Thats foreigners that EARNED their spot.

I want the best of the best (as does Blizzard) in the global finals - leave fucking politics out of this.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 07 2014 13:26 GMT
#77
If i were blizzard or consumer this would not make me happy. AM needs AM contribution, atleast very far in the tournament. Maybe they can patch the game in such a way that it buffs the top AM players for next season.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1841 Posts
April 07 2014 13:41 GMT
#78
On April 07 2014 22:26 govie wrote:
If i were blizzard or consumer this would not make me happy. AM needs AM contribution, atleast very far in the tournament. Maybe they can patch the game in such a way that it buffs the top AM players for next season.



I agree, I wish the rules were a little different.

I also see the Korean aspect here. These guys work really hard and I don't want to bash them for training hard and competing. It's nearly impossible to win in mainland Korea, so can you really blame them for competing?
TL+ Member
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 13:45:32
April 07 2014 13:43 GMT
#79
On April 07 2014 22:08 Vorenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 20:44 Ragnarork wrote:
On April 07 2014 20:13 maartendq wrote:
On April 07 2014 17:40 Dodgin wrote:
On April 07 2014 17:22 azzih wrote:
The whole WCS system is a joke. Just cancel the regional seperation and make it a normal tournament, maybe directly in korea. I dont blame the players using the easy route through the weaker US qualifier, i blame the stupid rules that enable such "cheating".


WCS AM is the toughest region though

For Americans, sure, but not for Koreans.


Really? Not the toughest to get to the Ro16 maybe.

But I think the Koreans involved don't think it'll be easy to win the whole thing.

E.g. I don't think Alicia and Arthur are thinking it'll easy, right now...

The majority of players in the Ro16 of GSL would be a favourite if they were in WCS AM instead.
SoS, Life, Soulkey, Dear, Mary, Zest, Rain, Parting, Soo, herO. These guys would murder anyone in either EU or AM.

So Arthur or Alicia might have a tough time in Ro8 AM, but they would never even qualify for GSL in the first place.


Sure. And Taeja, Bomber, Polt could totally have (well, for Taeja, its wrists make it questionable but still). So? Not saying they'd have been championship contender, but I definitely see them qualify over Pet, Myungsik, Ruin, or Paralyze.
I'd not put HyuN in this, though he may have. Still hard to predict how these would perform in Korea since it's not the same practice environment I'd say.
LiquipediaWanderer
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
April 07 2014 13:46 GMT
#80
protosses dont stand a chance.
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
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