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4ddic7ed
Profile Joined June 2013
United Kingdom7 Posts
January 15 2014 22:58 GMT
#41
On January 16 2014 07:58 DJHelium wrote:
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On January 16 2014 07:57 4ddic7ed wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:53 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:44 4ddic7ed wrote:
How are people up in arms about this? Taeja was the player,participating in WCS AM last year that gained the most points.

Pretty sure some math people determined that Revival got more points. Honestly though, is Revival going to play in WCS AM if he doesn't end up on a team? Who will pay for him to go to America if he plays in the live portion?


In WCS AM itself yes, Taeja got more overall, most of all WCS AM players.


More than Bomber?



Did Bomber participate in WCS AM last year?
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 23:00:27
January 15 2014 23:00 GMT
#42
On January 16 2014 07:58 4ddic7ed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 07:58 DJHelium wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:57 4ddic7ed wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:53 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:44 4ddic7ed wrote:
How are people up in arms about this? Taeja was the player,participating in WCS AM last year that gained the most points.

Pretty sure some math people determined that Revival got more points. Honestly though, is Revival going to play in WCS AM if he doesn't end up on a team? Who will pay for him to go to America if he plays in the live portion?


In WCS AM itself yes, Taeja got more overall, most of all WCS AM players.


More than Bomber?



Did Bomber participate in WCS AM last year?


Ah I get your point! So global points among those participating WCS AM last year. I can see that.
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
January 15 2014 23:09 GMT
#43
On January 16 2014 07:52 Darkhoarse wrote:
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On January 16 2014 06:39 MajOr wrote:
On January 16 2014 06:36 mikumegurine wrote:
On January 16 2014 06:31 MajOr wrote:
not to hate but. last season he decided to forfeit his matches(despite being present there at NASL studio) and he gets rewarded by being promoted to Premier. i undestearnd is based on points but still.


maybe he forfeited back then cause this was all planned and he knew all along he get promoted back to Premier...

ya man he can read into the future the new plans for wcs 2014 and also knew hack would switch back to kr.. cmon lol also this community its soooo hypocrit not even funny i forfeited shoutcraft cuz the pc from the lan i was playing had basically 20 fps. and i get shiited on but he forfeited his challenger league match(dont really know the reason) and the community didnt shit on him.

just wonderful

Didn't he say he was sick?

Also no offense or anything but sometimes you get forgiven for certain things based on your reputation and skill.


Ya, that second part is probably what's bothering Major. I mean most people here can't even remember why Taeja skipped his matches and are falling all over themselves to excuse them (the benching starters discussion that came from no-where).

If it were someone else, maybe it would be a bigger deal, that's life.

On January 16 2014 08:00 DJHelium wrote:
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On January 16 2014 07:58 4ddic7ed wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:58 DJHelium wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:57 4ddic7ed wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:53 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:44 4ddic7ed wrote:
How are people up in arms about this? Taeja was the player,participating in WCS AM last year that gained the most points.

Pretty sure some math people determined that Revival got more points. Honestly though, is Revival going to play in WCS AM if he doesn't end up on a team? Who will pay for him to go to America if he plays in the live portion?


In WCS AM itself yes, Taeja got more overall, most of all WCS AM players.


More than Bomber?



Did Bomber participate in WCS AM last year?


Ah I get your point! So global points among those participating WCS AM last year. I can see that.


While this criteria is starting to sound contrived, it would make sense.
tjtombo
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States295 Posts
January 15 2014 23:11 GMT
#44
On January 16 2014 07:34 aike wrote:
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On January 16 2014 07:19 DinoMight wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:07 aike wrote:
And that's fine because professional athletes forfeit because they are tired all the time.

Pro sports teams frequently bench their best players during exhibition matches or matches that aren't very important to avoid injury. A lot of players turn down things like all-star games etc. to avoid being unfit to play their important games.

He isn't turning something down though. He forfeited a match he had already agreed to play. A team can bench a player because they are still playing the game. A player forfeiting in SC2 is similar to benching your entire team. If a professional team just decided to not play a match because they were too tired, they would probably be fined a very large amount of money.

He was tired after his group and he has a history of wrist issues, also it was challenger at the very end of the year. If Taeja didn't play his match I seriously doubt it was to spite the community so calm down and quit yer bitchin.
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-15 23:16:27
January 15 2014 23:15 GMT
#45
On January 16 2014 08:00 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 07:58 4ddic7ed wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:58 DJHelium wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:57 4ddic7ed wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:53 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:44 4ddic7ed wrote:
How are people up in arms about this? Taeja was the player,participating in WCS AM last year that gained the most points.

Pretty sure some math people determined that Revival got more points. Honestly though, is Revival going to play in WCS AM if he doesn't end up on a team? Who will pay for him to go to America if he plays in the live portion?


In WCS AM itself yes, Taeja got more overall, most of all WCS AM players.


More than Bomber?



Did Bomber participate in WCS AM last year?


Ah I get your point! So global points among those participating WCS AM last year. I can see that.


So Jaedong or Polt or HerO??? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Standings
Prillan
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden350 Posts
January 15 2014 23:18 GMT
#46
On January 16 2014 08:15 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 08:00 DJHelium wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:58 4ddic7ed wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:58 DJHelium wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:57 4ddic7ed wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:53 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:44 4ddic7ed wrote:
How are people up in arms about this? Taeja was the player,participating in WCS AM last year that gained the most points.

Pretty sure some math people determined that Revival got more points. Honestly though, is Revival going to play in WCS AM if he doesn't end up on a team? Who will pay for him to go to America if he plays in the live portion?


In WCS AM itself yes, Taeja got more overall, most of all WCS AM players.


More than Bomber?



Did Bomber participate in WCS AM last year?


Ah I get your point! So global points among those participating WCS AM last year. I can see that.


So Jaedong or Polt or HerO??? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Standings


They are already in Premier League.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 15 2014 23:24 GMT
#47
On January 16 2014 08:18 Prillan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 08:15 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 16 2014 08:00 DJHelium wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:58 4ddic7ed wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:58 DJHelium wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:57 4ddic7ed wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:53 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:44 4ddic7ed wrote:
How are people up in arms about this? Taeja was the player,participating in WCS AM last year that gained the most points.

Pretty sure some math people determined that Revival got more points. Honestly though, is Revival going to play in WCS AM if he doesn't end up on a team? Who will pay for him to go to America if he plays in the live portion?


In WCS AM itself yes, Taeja got more overall, most of all WCS AM players.


More than Bomber?



Did Bomber participate in WCS AM last year?


Ah I get your point! So global points among those participating WCS AM last year. I can see that.


So Jaedong or Polt or HerO??? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Standings


They are already in Premier League.


Ah sry, it's getting late and I'm an idiot.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 15 2014 23:33 GMT
#48
You are all looking into points too much. Things like points, seeding, results are all just after the fact justification whenever it comes to invites.

IF THERE WAS ANY JUSTICE IN THE WORLD LOWELY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN A SEED IN WCS EU LAST YEAR, but there isn't.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 15 2014 23:34 GMT
#49
On January 16 2014 07:46 Eshra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 06:39 MajOr wrote:
On January 16 2014 06:36 mikumegurine wrote:
On January 16 2014 06:31 MajOr wrote:
not to hate but. last season he decided to forfeit his matches(despite being present there at NASL studio) and he gets rewarded by being promoted to Premier. i undestearnd is based on points but still.


maybe he forfeited back then cause this was all planned and he knew all along he get promoted back to Premier...

ya man he can read into the future the new plans for wcs 2014 and also knew hack would switch back to kr.. cmon lol also this community its soooo hypocrit not even funny i forfeited shoutcraft cuz the pc from the lan i was playing had basically 20 fps. and i get shiited on but he forfeited his challenger league match(dont really know the reason) and the community didnt shit on him.

just wonderful


Oh look, another one of those " this community sucks, it's so hypocrit, blablabla ".


He's not entirely incorrect though. The community doesn't not hold a consistent standard whatsoever for different players (this is not necessarily a bad thing though)
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
January 15 2014 23:35 GMT
#50
Welp, region over.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 15 2014 23:36 GMT
#51
On January 16 2014 08:35 CCa1ss1e wrote:
Welp, region over.


Please, Taeja had 2 seasons in Premier and he didn't even make it to the finals once.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
January 15 2014 23:40 GMT
#52
"oh no, they picked the player everyone wants to see play!"

/chaos
Whattttt Upppppppp Im Nesteaaaaaa!!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 15 2014 23:41 GMT
#53
On January 16 2014 08:34 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 07:46 Eshra wrote:
On January 16 2014 06:39 MajOr wrote:
On January 16 2014 06:36 mikumegurine wrote:
On January 16 2014 06:31 MajOr wrote:
not to hate but. last season he decided to forfeit his matches(despite being present there at NASL studio) and he gets rewarded by being promoted to Premier. i undestearnd is based on points but still.


maybe he forfeited back then cause this was all planned and he knew all along he get promoted back to Premier...

ya man he can read into the future the new plans for wcs 2014 and also knew hack would switch back to kr.. cmon lol also this community its soooo hypocrit not even funny i forfeited shoutcraft cuz the pc from the lan i was playing had basically 20 fps. and i get shiited on but he forfeited his challenger league match(dont really know the reason) and the community didnt shit on him.

just wonderful


Oh look, another one of those " this community sucks, it's so hypocrit, blablabla ".


He's not entirely incorrect though. The community doesn't not hold a consistent standard whatsoever for different players (this is not necessarily a bad thing though)

It's always been like that though, nothing new.

On January 16 2014 08:36 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 08:35 CCa1ss1e wrote:
Welp, region over.


Please, Taeja had 2 seasons in Premier and he didn't even make it to the finals once.

I blame Polt for one of those
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Visage814
Profile Joined April 2012
United States109 Posts
January 15 2014 23:54 GMT
#54
Are people forgetting that revival isn't on EG anymore, and probably couldn't come to AM anymore anyhow...?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
January 16 2014 00:07 GMT
#55
On January 16 2014 08:33 stuchiu wrote:
You are all looking into points too much. Things like points, seeding, results are all just after the fact justification whenever it comes to invites.

IF THERE WAS ANY JUSTICE IN THE WORLD LOWELY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN A SEED IN WCS EU LAST YEAR, but there isn't.


imba.Lowely?
SpunXtain20
Profile Joined January 2014
Australia554 Posts
January 16 2014 00:12 GMT
#56
This is good news, Taeja is a home boy and a stud. Been a super fan of his since way back in early 2011 when he was crushing kids in the ESV weekly competitions, even before he became one of Slayer's key players.

I was really excited when I was proved correct after saying Taeja had superstar qualities in him. Now as a near-bonjwa after his record run this summer, we're going to see him crush some more face in WCS-NA. Good luck noble stallion, may your keystrokes be swift and precise.
*Hugs all* | I came here to drink milk and kick asses, and I've just finished my milk.
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 00:17:46
January 16 2014 00:13 GMT
#57
On January 16 2014 06:31 MajOr wrote:
not to hate but. last season he decided to forfeit his matches(despite being present there at NASL studio) and he gets rewarded by being promoted to Premier. i undestearnd is based on points but still.

IMO it's based on bullshit. aLive got semifinal, 6th place, and a Ro32... TaeJa got challenger league, semifinal, and Ro16... Even Revival did better than TaeJa with a 2nd place, Ro16, and Ro32... ~_~

Also Scarlett did better than TaeJa with semifinal and 2 Ro16s...
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
January 16 2014 00:16 GMT
#58
On January 16 2014 09:12 SpunXtain20 wrote:
This is good news, Taeja is a home boy and a stud. Been a super fan of his since way back in early 2011 when he was crushing kids in the ESV weekly competitions, even before he became one of Slayer's key players.

I was really excited when I was proved correct after saying Taeja had superstar qualities in him. Now as a near-bonjwa after his record run this summer, we're going to see him crush some more face in WCS-NA. Good luck noble stallion, may your keystrokes be swift and precise.

Near Bonjwa? Oh lol please just be fanboy hyperbole....
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
January 16 2014 00:18 GMT
#59
On January 16 2014 07:34 aike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 07:19 DinoMight wrote:
On January 16 2014 07:07 aike wrote:
And that's fine because professional athletes forfeit because they are tired all the time.

Pro sports teams frequently bench their best players during exhibition matches or matches that aren't very important to avoid injury. A lot of players turn down things like all-star games etc. to avoid being unfit to play their important games.

He isn't turning something down though. He forfeited a match he had already agreed to play. A team can bench a player because they are still playing the game. A player forfeiting in SC2 is similar to benching your entire team. If a professional team just decided to not play a match because they were too tired, they would probably be fined a very large amount of money.


Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe. I think it's kind of a stretch though. It'd be more like a tennis player not playing his match and forfeiting the tournament.

There are a lot of things that are wrong with comparing eSports to more mainstream sports. Pro football for instance has millions of dollars invested in individual players, playing for billion dollar teams, in a league setting to move towards a single elimination tournament. Doesn't really compare, especially when the game at the time doesn't necessarily mean anything. I think if the New England Patriots were playing in a tournament for challenger level money you'd probably see them forfeit a tournament now and again.
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
SpunXtain20
Profile Joined January 2014
Australia554 Posts
January 16 2014 00:18 GMT
#60
On January 16 2014 09:16 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 09:12 SpunXtain20 wrote:
This is good news, Taeja is a home boy and a stud. Been a super fan of his since way back in early 2011 when he was crushing kids in the ESV weekly competitions, even before he became one of Slayer's key players.

I was really excited when I was proved correct after saying Taeja had superstar qualities in him. Now as a near-bonjwa after his record run this summer, we're going to see him crush some more face in WCS-NA. Good luck noble stallion, may your keystrokes be swift and precise.

Near Bonjwa? Oh lol please just be fanboy hyperbole....


Okay near bonjwa might be an exageration, but July, Jaedong and Bisu were near-bonjwas in BW with ~5 championships a piece. Taeja has won that many in the space of about 6 months, at the least it is certainly an impressive achievement to be consistantly dominant like this.
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