• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 18:09
CET 00:09
KST 08:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket12Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA12
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating thread
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Path of Exile [Game] Osu! Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1721 users

NaNiwa - Revival tiebreaker - Nov 5 - Page 12

Forum Index > SC2 General
467 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 24 Next All
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10239 Posts
November 05 2013 16:14 GMT
#221
On November 06 2013 01:03 Batch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 00:36 Tanukki wrote:
I feel kinda bad for Revival. Not often in e-sports does a player have so many viewers rooting against him.

There are probably a whole lot of koreans who want him to slay the last foreigner.

Also a lot of non-Koreans who want the same. I would rather have an all-Korean tournament - skill level is simply higher.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
November 05 2013 16:21 GMT
#222
On November 05 2013 19:29 RyF wrote:
i feel like if Nani looses this we will have kinda equally same Viewer numbers for this series as for the main event. I feel like Naniwa alone can gather up to 50.000 Viewers for his showing...

let's see... gl Nani you really deserve it!!!

Sorry but you are nuts. there is no way Naniwa can get 50k on his own.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 05 2013 16:22 GMT
#223
On November 06 2013 01:14 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 01:03 Batch wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:36 Tanukki wrote:
I feel kinda bad for Revival. Not often in e-sports does a player have so many viewers rooting against him.

There are probably a whole lot of koreans who want him to slay the last foreigner.

Also a lot of non-Koreans who want the same. I would rather have an all-Korean tournament - skill level is simply higher.

While this might be true in a lot of cases; how does it make sence in this one? The winning player will have a higher skill level this week, regardless, whether he is swedish or korean. Making a case for the skill level being lower, if the winner of a qualification match advances, does make absolutely 0 sence.
eScapegoat100
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada71 Posts
November 05 2013 16:22 GMT
#224
On November 06 2013 01:14 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 01:03 Batch wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:36 Tanukki wrote:
I feel kinda bad for Revival. Not often in e-sports does a player have so many viewers rooting against him.

There are probably a whole lot of koreans who want him to slay the last foreigner.

Also a lot of non-Koreans who want the same. I would rather have an all-Korean tournament - skill level is simply higher.


I have a difficult time understanding this attitude in what's supposed to be a Global tournament. If I watch a Global tourney in any sport I want to see competitors from multiple nations (33% (ballpark) maximum from the same nation).

You're right that Koreans have proved themselves to be better but if you want to watch Korean vs Korean all the time you have GSL, OSL, and Proleague.
<p align=center><a target=_blank href=http://www.nodiatis.com/personality.htm><img border=0 src=http://www.nodiatis.com/pub/5.jpg></a></p>
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18524 Posts
November 05 2013 16:24 GMT
#225
On November 06 2013 01:14 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 01:03 Batch wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:36 Tanukki wrote:
I feel kinda bad for Revival. Not often in e-sports does a player have so many viewers rooting against him.

There are probably a whole lot of koreans who want him to slay the last foreigner.

Also a lot of non-Koreans who want the same. I would rather have an all-Korean tournament - skill level is simply higher.


Naniwa is on the skill level of Koreans if he beats Revival because he:
1. gathered enough points
2. beat Revival head to head

Where is your point?
Haedley
Profile Joined November 2013
Germany28 Posts
November 05 2013 16:26 GMT
#226
On November 05 2013 23:33 Marchinko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 23:22 Haedley wrote:
Oh they even broadcast it, didn't knew that. Is MVP vs aLive also shown?


There is no MVP vs aLive tiebreaker, rules work different for them. Most WCS tournament points.


Last time I checked they had both 3600pts and Liquipedia said they have to play a Tiebreaker o_0
eXeYukon
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
45 Posts
November 05 2013 16:32 GMT
#227
Is there going to be some sort of live report on Team Liquid? I'm at school so I can't watch T.T
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
November 05 2013 16:35 GMT
#228
On November 06 2013 01:26 Haedley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 23:33 Marchinko wrote:
On November 05 2013 23:22 Haedley wrote:
Oh they even broadcast it, didn't knew that. Is MVP vs aLive also shown?


There is no MVP vs aLive tiebreaker, rules work different for them. Most WCS tournament points.


Last time I checked they had both 3600pts and Liquipedia said they have to play a Tiebreaker o_0


"Ties within the top 16 WCS players will be decided by cumulative points earned only in World Championship Series America, Europe, Korea, and Season Finals events."
On the 6th day JF made Reavers and on the 7th day JF put his opponent to rest
SoFrOsTy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States525 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 16:40:38
November 05 2013 16:40 GMT
#229
On November 06 2013 01:14 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 01:03 Batch wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:36 Tanukki wrote:
I feel kinda bad for Revival. Not often in e-sports does a player have so many viewers rooting against him.

There are probably a whole lot of koreans who want him to slay the last foreigner.

Also a lot of non-Koreans who want the same. I would rather have an all-Korean tournament - skill level is simply higher.

9 times out of 10 I might agree with you, higher skill level is better. But Revival isn't one of those players. Naniwa has consistently shown far superior play than Revival. Revival is one of he worst players left. Poor mechanics, poor map awareness, spends too much time spamming instead of actually getting things done, and poor decision making.
Julyzerg ftw
DiLiGu
Profile Joined December 2011
United States185 Posts
November 05 2013 16:45 GMT
#230
On November 06 2013 01:14 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 01:03 Batch wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:36 Tanukki wrote:
I feel kinda bad for Revival. Not often in e-sports does a player have so many viewers rooting against him.

There are probably a whole lot of koreans who want him to slay the last foreigner.

Also a lot of non-Koreans who want the same. I would rather have an all-Korean tournament - skill level is simply higher.


In this situation, you're wrong. NaNiwa is a multiple-time Ro8 Code S finisher, and Revival is mid-low tier Korean. It will be a better tournament with NaNiwa in it, overall.

Even if he wins NaNi has to play freaking Soulkey next anyway.
AmuseD
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands133 Posts
November 05 2013 16:47 GMT
#231
On November 06 2013 01:26 Haedley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 23:33 Marchinko wrote:
On November 05 2013 23:22 Haedley wrote:
Oh they even broadcast it, didn't knew that. Is MVP vs aLive also shown?


There is no MVP vs aLive tiebreaker, rules work different for them. Most WCS tournament points.


Last time I checked they had both 3600pts and Liquipedia said they have to play a Tiebreaker o_0

aLive still had to play challenger league, They were both tied BEFORE aLive played challenger, he got 1st in his group, earned 25 extra points. putting him above Mvp and making the Mvp vs Jaedong matchup a fact
Supah ToHLL
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
November 05 2013 16:49 GMT
#232
On November 06 2013 01:47 AmuseD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 01:26 Haedley wrote:
On November 05 2013 23:33 Marchinko wrote:
On November 05 2013 23:22 Haedley wrote:
Oh they even broadcast it, didn't knew that. Is MVP vs aLive also shown?


There is no MVP vs aLive tiebreaker, rules work different for them. Most WCS tournament points.


Last time I checked they had both 3600pts and Liquipedia said they have to play a Tiebreaker o_0

aLive still had to play challenger league, They were both tied BEFORE aLive played challenger, he got 1st in his group, earned 25 extra points. putting him above Mvp and making the Mvp vs Jaedong matchup a fact

aLive already made out of his group so he is ahead of Mvp now.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Stinkie
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany16 Posts
November 05 2013 17:00 GMT
#233
How can that be played at Blizzcon (like they said before), when they open their doors not before friday?
I never make predictions. And I never will.
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
November 05 2013 17:03 GMT
#234
On November 05 2013 06:45 Bjarne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 04:59 Roman666 wrote:
Naniwa has this, unless he beats himself.


Ok man, this is b*llsh*t.

I fine with both of them, im a fan of EG an like to see foreigners. So the outcome is not that importend to me.

But Naniwa is NOT highly favoured. He can loose to Revival without beating himself.

Revival had good games even in PL and finished second in WCS USA 1 (?) and won IEM Shanghai.

Naniwa has horrible loosing streaks alternate with great play.

Everything can happen.

You misunderstood my point. The point was, that all depends on his mentality on that day. If he is in a good mental form, he can take out Revival. It was not about Revival being week up to the point that Naniwa would have to throw him the games.

Anyway, only 2h left, this will be interesting, as this is a $5000 worth best of 5.
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
November 05 2013 17:03 GMT
#235
So... What is going on?... Why there is even no thread for this game? This sucks, nobody is going to watch the most important game of the year!!!

(For trolls: it's an intentional exaggeration ;P)
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 05 2013 17:06 GMT
#236
On November 06 2013 02:03 pms wrote:
So... What is going on?... Why there is even no thread for this game? This sucks, nobody is going to watch the most important game of the year!!!

(For trolls: it's an intentional exaggeration ;P)

It's in the day 1 WCS thread
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
renkin
Profile Joined July 2010
France249 Posts
November 05 2013 17:07 GMT
#237
On November 06 2013 02:00 Stinkie wrote:
How can that be played at Blizzcon (like they said before), when they open their doors not before friday?


Blizzcon was supposed to be today until Nani and Revival wanted to play some matches

More seriously though, a bo5 for the last foreigner hope we saw cry in his last tournament, I expect a ton of viewers !
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
November 05 2013 17:09 GMT
#238
On November 06 2013 02:06 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 02:03 pms wrote:
So... What is going on?... Why there is even no thread for this game? This sucks, nobody is going to watch the most important game of the year!!!

(For trolls: it's an intentional exaggeration ;P)

It's in the day 1 WCS thread


Thanks! It's weird though, cause this game starts a couple of days before the Blizzcon.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 05 2013 17:11 GMT
#239
Definitely rooting for Naniwa, since it would be awesome to have a European player in the Blizzcon, but I also think that Revival deserves the spot should he beat Naniwa, even if he really got lucky because of the IEM mistake by the ESL.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 05 2013 17:14 GMT
#240
On November 06 2013 02:09 pms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 02:06 The_Templar wrote:
On November 06 2013 02:03 pms wrote:
So... What is going on?... Why there is even no thread for this game? This sucks, nobody is going to watch the most important game of the year!!!

(For trolls: it's an intentional exaggeration ;P)

It's in the day 1 WCS thread


Thanks! It's weird though, cause this game starts a couple of days before the Blizzcon.

look at the page count of that thread
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 24 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 22m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
White-Ra 243
UpATreeSC 172
Nina 132
SpeCial 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaeyun 43
Leta 31
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm69
Counter-Strike
fl0m1427
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr61
Other Games
Grubby5852
FrodaN1502
shahzam377
Liquid`Hasu290
C9.Mang0113
KnowMe92
ViBE91
PPMD31
ZombieGrub26
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV12
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 22 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 85
• sitaska45
• davetesta24
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 22
• STPLYoutube
• mYiSmile10
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4485
• masondota21936
League of Legends
• Doublelift3207
Counter-Strike
• Shiphtur173
Other Games
• imaqtpie1286
• Scarra743
• WagamamaTV486
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
8h 22m
Classic vs MaxPax
SHIN vs Reynor
herO vs Maru
WardiTV Korean Royale
12h 52m
SC Evo League
13h 22m
IPSL
17h 52m
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
OSC
17h 52m
BSL 21
20h 52m
TerrOr vs Aeternum
HBO vs Kyrie
RSL Revival
1d 8h
Wardi Open
1d 14h
IPSL
1d 20h
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
BSL 21
1d 20h
StRyKeR vs Artosis
OyAji vs KameZerg
[ Show More ]
OSC
1d 23h
OSC
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
OSC
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
LAN Event
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-16
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.