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NaNiwa - Revival tiebreaker - Nov 5 - Page 12

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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10372 Posts
November 05 2013 16:14 GMT
#221
On November 06 2013 01:03 Batch wrote:
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On November 06 2013 00:36 Tanukki wrote:
I feel kinda bad for Revival. Not often in e-sports does a player have so many viewers rooting against him.

There are probably a whole lot of koreans who want him to slay the last foreigner.

Also a lot of non-Koreans who want the same. I would rather have an all-Korean tournament - skill level is simply higher.
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Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
November 05 2013 16:21 GMT
#222
On November 05 2013 19:29 RyF wrote:
i feel like if Nani looses this we will have kinda equally same Viewer numbers for this series as for the main event. I feel like Naniwa alone can gather up to 50.000 Viewers for his showing...

let's see... gl Nani you really deserve it!!!

Sorry but you are nuts. there is no way Naniwa can get 50k on his own.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 05 2013 16:22 GMT
#223
On November 06 2013 01:14 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 01:03 Batch wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:36 Tanukki wrote:
I feel kinda bad for Revival. Not often in e-sports does a player have so many viewers rooting against him.

There are probably a whole lot of koreans who want him to slay the last foreigner.

Also a lot of non-Koreans who want the same. I would rather have an all-Korean tournament - skill level is simply higher.

While this might be true in a lot of cases; how does it make sence in this one? The winning player will have a higher skill level this week, regardless, whether he is swedish or korean. Making a case for the skill level being lower, if the winner of a qualification match advances, does make absolutely 0 sence.
eScapegoat100
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada71 Posts
November 05 2013 16:22 GMT
#224
On November 06 2013 01:14 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 01:03 Batch wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:36 Tanukki wrote:
I feel kinda bad for Revival. Not often in e-sports does a player have so many viewers rooting against him.

There are probably a whole lot of koreans who want him to slay the last foreigner.

Also a lot of non-Koreans who want the same. I would rather have an all-Korean tournament - skill level is simply higher.


I have a difficult time understanding this attitude in what's supposed to be a Global tournament. If I watch a Global tourney in any sport I want to see competitors from multiple nations (33% (ballpark) maximum from the same nation).

You're right that Koreans have proved themselves to be better but if you want to watch Korean vs Korean all the time you have GSL, OSL, and Proleague.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18746 Posts
November 05 2013 16:24 GMT
#225
On November 06 2013 01:14 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 01:03 Batch wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:36 Tanukki wrote:
I feel kinda bad for Revival. Not often in e-sports does a player have so many viewers rooting against him.

There are probably a whole lot of koreans who want him to slay the last foreigner.

Also a lot of non-Koreans who want the same. I would rather have an all-Korean tournament - skill level is simply higher.


Naniwa is on the skill level of Koreans if he beats Revival because he:
1. gathered enough points
2. beat Revival head to head

Where is your point?
Haedley
Profile Joined November 2013
Germany28 Posts
November 05 2013 16:26 GMT
#226
On November 05 2013 23:33 Marchinko wrote:
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On November 05 2013 23:22 Haedley wrote:
Oh they even broadcast it, didn't knew that. Is MVP vs aLive also shown?


There is no MVP vs aLive tiebreaker, rules work different for them. Most WCS tournament points.


Last time I checked they had both 3600pts and Liquipedia said they have to play a Tiebreaker o_0
eXeYukon
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
45 Posts
November 05 2013 16:32 GMT
#227
Is there going to be some sort of live report on Team Liquid? I'm at school so I can't watch T.T
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
November 05 2013 16:35 GMT
#228
On November 06 2013 01:26 Haedley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 23:33 Marchinko wrote:
On November 05 2013 23:22 Haedley wrote:
Oh they even broadcast it, didn't knew that. Is MVP vs aLive also shown?


There is no MVP vs aLive tiebreaker, rules work different for them. Most WCS tournament points.


Last time I checked they had both 3600pts and Liquipedia said they have to play a Tiebreaker o_0


"Ties within the top 16 WCS players will be decided by cumulative points earned only in World Championship Series America, Europe, Korea, and Season Finals events."
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SoFrOsTy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States525 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 16:40:38
November 05 2013 16:40 GMT
#229
On November 06 2013 01:14 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 01:03 Batch wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:36 Tanukki wrote:
I feel kinda bad for Revival. Not often in e-sports does a player have so many viewers rooting against him.

There are probably a whole lot of koreans who want him to slay the last foreigner.

Also a lot of non-Koreans who want the same. I would rather have an all-Korean tournament - skill level is simply higher.

9 times out of 10 I might agree with you, higher skill level is better. But Revival isn't one of those players. Naniwa has consistently shown far superior play than Revival. Revival is one of he worst players left. Poor mechanics, poor map awareness, spends too much time spamming instead of actually getting things done, and poor decision making.
Julyzerg ftw
DiLiGu
Profile Joined December 2011
United States185 Posts
November 05 2013 16:45 GMT
#230
On November 06 2013 01:14 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 01:03 Batch wrote:
On November 06 2013 00:36 Tanukki wrote:
I feel kinda bad for Revival. Not often in e-sports does a player have so many viewers rooting against him.

There are probably a whole lot of koreans who want him to slay the last foreigner.

Also a lot of non-Koreans who want the same. I would rather have an all-Korean tournament - skill level is simply higher.


In this situation, you're wrong. NaNiwa is a multiple-time Ro8 Code S finisher, and Revival is mid-low tier Korean. It will be a better tournament with NaNiwa in it, overall.

Even if he wins NaNi has to play freaking Soulkey next anyway.
AmuseD
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands133 Posts
November 05 2013 16:47 GMT
#231
On November 06 2013 01:26 Haedley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 23:33 Marchinko wrote:
On November 05 2013 23:22 Haedley wrote:
Oh they even broadcast it, didn't knew that. Is MVP vs aLive also shown?


There is no MVP vs aLive tiebreaker, rules work different for them. Most WCS tournament points.


Last time I checked they had both 3600pts and Liquipedia said they have to play a Tiebreaker o_0

aLive still had to play challenger league, They were both tied BEFORE aLive played challenger, he got 1st in his group, earned 25 extra points. putting him above Mvp and making the Mvp vs Jaedong matchup a fact
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
November 05 2013 16:49 GMT
#232
On November 06 2013 01:47 AmuseD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 01:26 Haedley wrote:
On November 05 2013 23:33 Marchinko wrote:
On November 05 2013 23:22 Haedley wrote:
Oh they even broadcast it, didn't knew that. Is MVP vs aLive also shown?


There is no MVP vs aLive tiebreaker, rules work different for them. Most WCS tournament points.


Last time I checked they had both 3600pts and Liquipedia said they have to play a Tiebreaker o_0

aLive still had to play challenger league, They were both tied BEFORE aLive played challenger, he got 1st in his group, earned 25 extra points. putting him above Mvp and making the Mvp vs Jaedong matchup a fact

aLive already made out of his group so he is ahead of Mvp now.
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Stinkie
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany16 Posts
November 05 2013 17:00 GMT
#233
How can that be played at Blizzcon (like they said before), when they open their doors not before friday?
I never make predictions. And I never will.
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
November 05 2013 17:03 GMT
#234
On November 05 2013 06:45 Bjarne wrote:
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On November 05 2013 04:59 Roman666 wrote:
Naniwa has this, unless he beats himself.


Ok man, this is b*llsh*t.

I fine with both of them, im a fan of EG an like to see foreigners. So the outcome is not that importend to me.

But Naniwa is NOT highly favoured. He can loose to Revival without beating himself.

Revival had good games even in PL and finished second in WCS USA 1 (?) and won IEM Shanghai.

Naniwa has horrible loosing streaks alternate with great play.

Everything can happen.

You misunderstood my point. The point was, that all depends on his mentality on that day. If he is in a good mental form, he can take out Revival. It was not about Revival being week up to the point that Naniwa would have to throw him the games.

Anyway, only 2h left, this will be interesting, as this is a $5000 worth best of 5.
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
November 05 2013 17:03 GMT
#235
So... What is going on?... Why there is even no thread for this game? This sucks, nobody is going to watch the most important game of the year!!!

(For trolls: it's an intentional exaggeration ;P)
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 05 2013 17:06 GMT
#236
On November 06 2013 02:03 pms wrote:
So... What is going on?... Why there is even no thread for this game? This sucks, nobody is going to watch the most important game of the year!!!

(For trolls: it's an intentional exaggeration ;P)

It's in the day 1 WCS thread
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renkin
Profile Joined July 2010
France249 Posts
November 05 2013 17:07 GMT
#237
On November 06 2013 02:00 Stinkie wrote:
How can that be played at Blizzcon (like they said before), when they open their doors not before friday?


Blizzcon was supposed to be today until Nani and Revival wanted to play some matches

More seriously though, a bo5 for the last foreigner hope we saw cry in his last tournament, I expect a ton of viewers !
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
November 05 2013 17:09 GMT
#238
On November 06 2013 02:06 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 02:03 pms wrote:
So... What is going on?... Why there is even no thread for this game? This sucks, nobody is going to watch the most important game of the year!!!

(For trolls: it's an intentional exaggeration ;P)

It's in the day 1 WCS thread


Thanks! It's weird though, cause this game starts a couple of days before the Blizzcon.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 05 2013 17:11 GMT
#239
Definitely rooting for Naniwa, since it would be awesome to have a European player in the Blizzcon, but I also think that Revival deserves the spot should he beat Naniwa, even if he really got lucky because of the IEM mistake by the ESL.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
November 05 2013 17:14 GMT
#240
On November 06 2013 02:09 pms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 02:06 The_Templar wrote:
On November 06 2013 02:03 pms wrote:
So... What is going on?... Why there is even no thread for this game? This sucks, nobody is going to watch the most important game of the year!!!

(For trolls: it's an intentional exaggeration ;P)

It's in the day 1 WCS thread


Thanks! It's weird though, cause this game starts a couple of days before the Blizzcon.

look at the page count of that thread
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