EPTKorean team (NS HoSeo) to disband? - Page 10
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astray71
United States325 Posts
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banjoetheredskin
United States744 Posts
On July 13 2013 01:10 xAdra wrote: Startale.Madbull would be pretty awesome. Startale still searching for that protoss ace to fill in Squirtle/Parting's shadows, and Avenge is only semi-delivering so far. Madbull has shown great promise so far, not to mention him and life would likely be the most entertaining pair of co-aces ever, if Madbull does well. That would be pretty sick but Avenge has actually done quite impressively IMO compared to his previous results. You might not be able to call him a top 10 protoss yet but he is getting there. His performance in Code A has been pretty good and his GSTL numbers are good, especially with a 3-kill vs AZUBU earlier today. I think Avenge is almost to the point where he could be considered a protoss ace beyond the fact that the other startale protosses are just not performing well at all. Maybe a new teammate like Madbull is what he needs though, so while I'm sad for NSH, I'm excited to see where their players like jjakji and Madbull and Tassadar go. | ||
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Patate
Canada441 Posts
On July 12 2013 21:45 lichter wrote: Would be strange if it were STX. Sure Pan Ocean is going bankrupt, but the company is still profitable despite their horrendous investments. They just need to refinance that debt. Company image is important in times like this, and keeping a popular Starcraft team can have a more positive impact than the extra few million Won they'd save cutting them. This is not AT ALL the way corporations work during bankruptcy. They shed out the low-ROI investments (most endorsements), and re-focus on their core assets. Anyone thinking a SC2 team division in Korea (I'm laughing just thinking about it) has any weight to a company that has filed for bankruptcy are just fooling themselves. | ||
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
On July 13 2013 00:47 Bowzar wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 13 2013 00:18 Marou wrote: It was an interview and you can read it here : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418767 Well he IS trying to find new sponsors for a very long time now...see how Team 8 struggled to get a sponsor whereas they are member of KeSPA which basically is an organisation fielded by chaebols representatives with contact books larger that you could ever imagine and you can get an idea of how hard it is to get a sponsor for an eSF team if you don't have 5+ GSL titles. There was a big surge of sponsorship from energy drinks brand, everybody got one except Prime, i know they are trying tho...almost every single eSF team has an energy drink as a sponsor but not Prime. The only brand left that is not sponsoring someone is Monster...i really wish Prime could get some of that Monster money, but look at where Monster is investing money, and it's not into "promising" talent but much more into established team/competitions with marketing people working there. + the new WCS system, which basically locks down korean players that can't afford to travel half way across the world and you have a situation where marketing yourself toward companies that have little to no business in Korea impossible, unless, again, you can afford to field your players in other WCS regions. This is a circle of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer, i guess you could call it survival of the fittest, but still i want to believe that Prime will stay. Maru just has to win the OSL and WCS Season 2 i guess ^_T ESF teams needs to realize that SC2 is not just Korea anymore but its global. They also need to fucking market their team better. How hard is it to update your twitter/facebook every day? They have superstars on their team and they are hiding them. ESF teams motto seems to be "Results will solve all your problems." and that shit doesnt fly unless you are backed by a huge sponsor. I would love to discuss this more extensively as i think this is the actual biggest shift that happened in esports for the past couple of years (even bigger than the whole streaming/twitch thing). If you look at the richest esports team today, there is something you have to understand about what they do : not only they are still "classical" esports team that tries to mimic the sports world, but today they also are full web marketing agencies. If you look at real sports, you could say that professional sports team also do this to a certain extent but i think esports is different. Today to land big sponsorship you have to have a crew of dedicated graphic designers/programmers and web marketers that provide analytics and numbered values to their sponsors. EG was the first and the best at understanding this, and that's why they are the richest team today. All the foreigner teams have taken this train for quite some times now but the Korean teams (KeSPA and eSF alike, with the exception of FXO maybe, but FXO is australian management anyways) keep being blind to this. This is not in their culture of esports, and Korean culture can be VERY rigid when it comes about change, especially in the corporate world. And btw Prime IS updating their facebook very regularly : https://www.facebook.com/onlyprime | ||
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Elite_
United States4259 Posts
On July 13 2013 01:35 Patate wrote: This is not AT ALL the way corporations work during bankruptcy. They shed out the low-ROI investments (most endorsements), and re-focus on their core assets. Anyone thinking a SC2 team division in Korea (I'm laughing just thinking about it) has any weight to a company that has filed for bankruptcy are just fooling themselves. I'd say this too if they didn't have the best player in the world (INnoVation.) | ||
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
I feel like besides MVP, jjakji is my favorite sc2 player. Sometimes he loses, but damn when he wins, he looks really fucking GREAT. | ||
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DoeniDon
Switzerland100 Posts
On July 13 2013 01:37 Elite_ wrote: I'd say this too if they didn't have the best player in the world (INnoVation.) The people making the decision whether to keep that team going or not probably don't even know who INnoVation is. | ||
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real1g
United States7 Posts
On July 13 2013 01:39 stratmatt wrote: I seem to remember total biscuit being a huge jjakji fanboy for some reason. Maybe axiom.jjakji? I feel like besides MVP, jjakji is my favorite sc2 player. Sometimes he loses, but damn when he wins, he looks really fucking GREAT. TB doesn't know anything about sc2. I don't think picking players for Axiom's squad is something he's going to be doing. | ||
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Elite_
United States4259 Posts
On July 13 2013 01:46 real1g wrote: TB doesn't know anything about sc2. I don't think picking players for Axiom's squad is something he's going to be doing. TB's wife is the owner and manager of Axiom and he has a hand in everything the team does... Then again you only have 2 posts and probably know nothing about what you're talking about... or you're a massive troll. ~_~ | ||
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Rockafella
United Kingdom291 Posts
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Darrkhan
Finland1236 Posts
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NuKE[vZ]
United States249 Posts
On July 13 2013 01:37 Elite_ wrote: I'd say this too if they didn't have the best player in the world (INnoVation.) Who the hell cares about INnoVation... you're talking about a multi billion dollar company here. Them having INnoVation does nothing to help them get out of bankruptcy.. and like someone said above, the directors probably don't even know who he is nor give a rats ass about StarCraft. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
 I wish they would at least continue as an amateur team, as a school team they are kind of predestinated for something like this. | ||
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Krogan
Sweden375 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On July 13 2013 01:57 Shellshock1122 wrote: [LR]jjakji Make it happen! | ||
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Juliette
United States6003 Posts
On July 13 2013 01:57 Shellshock1122 wrote: [LR]jjakji confirmed | ||
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MrSnibbles
United Kingdom267 Posts
I'll be praying to the true god LGIMMVP for Prime to disband. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
On July 13 2013 01:58 MrSnibbles wrote: Please be Prime, please be Prime. I'll be praying to the true god LGIMMVP for Prime to disband. It's already confirmed to be NSH? | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
Sundance said it might be two teams anyway. Then again, Sundance also said once that he wanted to go to Brazil or something. | ||
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