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HeadlessWonder
Profile Joined January 2013
United States1096 Posts
July 12 2013 17:33 GMT
#221
Jjakji and Madbull to Quantic.

Quantic partners up with mYinsanity (to get access to StarDust)

mYiQ becomes 8th GSL team.

:3
CIS Doto
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10847 Posts
July 12 2013 17:33 GMT
#222
NSHS honestly, I hope that STX SouL doesn't disband, was always one o8f my favorite teams T_T
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Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
July 12 2013 17:45 GMT
#223
On July 13 2013 02:33 GGzerG wrote:
NSHS honestly, I hope that STX SouL doesn't disband, was always one o8f my favorite teams T_T

they;re like not going to be ( I mean STX Soul, since kespa even said that 2 new teams, plus their own team 8 has been sponsored as well ).
@taefoxy
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
July 12 2013 17:53 GMT
#224
Sad to hear, if it in the end isn't NSH I hope it's not Prime.
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havok55
Profile Joined May 2013
United States276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 17:54:03
July 12 2013 17:53 GMT
#225
I always thought NSH would be the last eSF team standing (just cuz that team can run on fumes for so long, why not forever).
Radel
Profile Joined June 2011
United States115 Posts
July 12 2013 17:54 GMT
#226
On July 12 2013 21:36 nkr wrote:
it probably is prime ;p

Liquid´MKP


It would be Liquid'MarineKing ... Prime is his team.
Manner should be mutual. Innovation - Jjakji - Grubby - HuK - JD - StarDust - Flash - Balloon
Radel
Profile Joined June 2011
United States115 Posts
July 12 2013 17:55 GMT
#227
On July 13 2013 02:33 HeadlessWonder wrote:
Jjakji and Madbull to Quantic.

Quantic partners up with mYinsanity (to get access to StarDust)

mYiQ becomes 8th GSL team.

:3


That would be interesting. And a pretty cool clan tag haha
Manner should be mutual. Innovation - Jjakji - Grubby - HuK - JD - StarDust - Flash - Balloon
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
July 12 2013 17:57 GMT
#228
Time for nazgul to reach in his wallet and sign maru

LiquidMaru next terran bonya
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
July 12 2013 17:59 GMT
#229
On July 13 2013 02:54 Radel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 21:36 nkr wrote:
it probably is prime ;p

Liquid´MKP


It would be Liquid'MarineKing ... Prime is his team.


But once Prime disbands, he can change from MarineKing to MarineKingPrime and still become Liquid`MKP.
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Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
July 12 2013 18:00 GMT
#230
On July 13 2013 01:36 Marou wrote:
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On July 13 2013 00:47 Bowzar wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 13 2013 00:18 Marou wrote:
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On July 13 2013 00:08 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 13 2013 00:05 Marou wrote:
I don't think it will be Prime...i was at the new teamhouse few weeks ago and talked to Gerrard about that. While he said that the team has financial problems (i think it's been like this for over a year now and never hidden that fact), he said he want to focus and the future and don't think about the financial problems.

I think Prime will still be there for WCS Season 3 at least, and i hope GSTL will still happen next season.

Now, I obviously wasn't there so I don't know any of the details about your conversation with him beyond that tl;dr, but I would think "not thinking about the financial problems" isn't really a way to go about fixing it


It was an interview and you can read it here : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418767

Well he IS trying to find new sponsors for a very long time now...see how Team 8 struggled to get a sponsor whereas they are member of KeSPA which basically is an organisation fielded by chaebols representatives with contact books larger that you could ever imagine and you can get an idea of how hard it is to get a sponsor for an eSF team if you don't have 5+ GSL titles. There was a big surge of sponsorship from energy drinks brand, everybody got one except Prime, i know they are trying tho...almost every single eSF team has an energy drink as a sponsor but not Prime.

The only brand left that is not sponsoring someone is Monster...i really wish Prime could get some of that Monster money, but look at where Monster is investing money, and it's not into "promising" talent but much more into established team/competitions with marketing people working there.

+ the new WCS system, which basically locks down korean players that can't afford to travel half way across the world and you have a situation where marketing yourself toward companies that have little to no business in Korea impossible, unless, again, you can afford to field your players in other WCS regions.

This is a circle of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer, i guess you could call it survival of the fittest, but still i want to believe that Prime will stay. Maru just has to win the OSL and WCS Season 2 i guess ^_T


ESF teams needs to realize that SC2 is not just Korea anymore but its global. They also need to fucking market their team better. How hard is it to update your twitter/facebook every day? They have superstars on their team and they are hiding them. ESF teams motto seems to be "Results will solve all your problems." and that shit doesnt fly unless you are backed by a huge sponsor.


I would love to discuss this more extensively as i think this is the actual biggest shift that happened in esports for the past couple of years (even bigger than the whole streaming/twitch thing). If you look at the richest esports team today, there is something you have to understand about what they do : not only they are still "classical" esports team that tries to mimic the sports world, but today they also are full web marketing agencies. If you look at real sports, you could say that professional sports team also do this to a certain extent but i think esports is different. Today to land big sponsorship you have to have a crew of dedicated graphic designers/programmers and web marketers that provide analytics and numbered values to their sponsors.

EG was the first and the best at understanding this, and that's why they are the richest team today. All the foreigner teams have taken this train for quite some times now but the Korean teams (KeSPA and eSF alike, with the exception of FXO maybe, but FXO is australian management anyways) keep being blind to this. This is not in their culture of esports, and Korean culture can be VERY rigid when it comes about change, especially in the corporate world.

And btw Prime IS updating their facebook very regularly : https://www.facebook.com/onlyprime

Oh, I didnt realize they made a new facebook. Thats good to know. Still its so sad to see all these Korean teams disband because they cant find sponsors. I know a lot of that has to do with GOM for some reason refusing to release their stream numbers but there are still so many things you can do to promote your team. At least they are thanking their sponsors now, I remember that they didnt do that in the beginning.
Guileful
Profile Joined November 2012
Kazakhstan137 Posts
July 12 2013 18:01 GMT
#231
Hope Jjakji and Tassadar will find a home
Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
July 12 2013 18:03 GMT
#232
This could be good for Jjakji in the long run
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SAFenix
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada439 Posts
July 12 2013 18:07 GMT
#233
On July 13 2013 02:22 hipo wrote:
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On July 13 2013 02:12 T.O.P wrote:
On July 13 2013 02:06 ACrow wrote:
On July 13 2013 02:04 T.O.P wrote:
SlayerS disband, now NSH! Crap why is my team getting disbanding. So sad.

Please don't chose IM as your new favorite team


haha, I won't. I'm choosing SKT and KT as my new favorite team. I pretty sure they won't get disband.

Same for me... OGS, then Slayer, then NsH.
Now it's SKT all the way and if I'm lucky, SKT.Jjakji will happen!

I was lucky enough not to pick NSH as my fave after SlayerS and oGs disbanded. oGsMC 4ever
mYi.Rain | SKT1.soO
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
July 12 2013 18:20 GMT
#234
Well at least jjakji might finally get some decent practice partners
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
July 12 2013 18:29 GMT
#235
Sad, sad day. They've been dying for a long time, however. I wish they'd had the money to keep all the players that left - they were such an exciting team with a really unique set of players who brought a lot to the game which you have to imagine was partly down to the team itself.

Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
July 12 2013 18:35 GMT
#236
I think the only guys that would have a hope of getting picked up would be jjakji and Madbull. MAYBE Tassadar...
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
July 12 2013 18:41 GMT
#237
On July 13 2013 03:35 DinosaurJones wrote:
I think the only guys that would have a hope of getting picked up would be jjakji and Madbull. MAYBE Tassadar...

Well, as far as I know, KeSPA teams have regular tryouts, atleast for their lowest tier of team, no? They could have their chances there.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
July 12 2013 18:51 GMT
#238
So EG Jjakji
ST_INnoVation
or Liquid'MarineKing
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
July 12 2013 19:00 GMT
#239
On July 13 2013 03:51 Cricketer12 wrote:
So EG Jjakji
ST_INnoVation
or Liquid'MarineKing


Liquid Maru is more logical
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
July 12 2013 19:02 GMT
#240
On July 13 2013 03:41 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 03:35 DinosaurJones wrote:
I think the only guys that would have a hope of getting picked up would be jjakji and Madbull. MAYBE Tassadar...

Well, as far as I know, KeSPA teams have regular tryouts, atleast for their lowest tier of team, no? They could have their chances there.

Technically they have that possibility, but judging from what they have shown us, they realistically don't have a chance to pass those tests. Unless of course there is some sleeper talent there that just hasn't had the opportunity to shine yet.
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