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People_0f_Color
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
On May 10 2013 04:52 RyLai wrote: Don't like the Spore Crawler change though. Was there an option in BW ZvZ to do anything else other than Muta/Ling except in the super late game? I like the speed, aggression, and multitasking that comes with Mutas in ZvZ. However, seeing the slightly more skill-oriented Infestors be used against them could be cool to watch. I said COULD, not would. I like nonstop action when I watch a game. Not really. The vast majority of Brood War ZvZ matches were decided by Mutalisk/Scourge micro wars, with some Devourers thrown in on occasion to tank damage. Not exactly a diverse matchup. | ||
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RogerChillingworth
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
On May 10 2013 05:04 RogerChillingworth wrote: TvZ is still terran favored, i don't care what anyone says. Other match-ups are better--can go either way--and really map dependent, but non-retarded Terrans will still make zerg look silly. stats fail to illustrate the full picture, i'm afraid. Good thing Code S is filled with retarded Terrans, then, otherwise zerg would be having issues. | ||
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sibs
635 Posts
On May 10 2013 05:04 RogerChillingworth wrote: TvZ is still terran favored, i don't care what anyone says. Other match-ups are better--can go either way--and really map dependent, but non-retarded Terrans will still make zerg look silly. stats fail to illustrate the full picture, i'm afraid. Hmm, TvZ was 55% WR for T in march, 56% in April.It's not terrible but yea, TvZ does favor T atm. PvT seems to be favoring protoss pretty hard for the past 2 weeks or so as well, but thats early to suggest any problems. Edit: You can clearly see the terrans are very happy about no changes, they're kinda expecting a nerf hehe. | ||
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Spec
Taiwan931 Posts
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Tsubbi
Germany7967 Posts
On May 10 2013 05:04 RogerChillingworth wrote: TvZ is still terran favored, i don't care what anyone says. Other match-ups are better--can go either way--and really map dependent, but non-retarded Terrans will still make zerg look silly. stats fail to illustrate the full picture, i'm afraid. agreed, blizzard never cites their stats anyways lol, tvz is at a steady 55% so far in terrans favor which is clearly too much, the burrow change wouldve been at aleast a tiny change that would help in zvt the most so i have no idea why they would revert it | ||
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igay
Australia1178 Posts
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trucido
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ObeseHydra
Brazil196 Posts
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dirtydurb82
United States178 Posts
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Japan1926 Posts
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syriuszonito
Poland332 Posts
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
On May 10 2013 05:08 Tsubbi wrote: agreed, blizzard never cites their stats anyways lol, tvz is at a steady 55% so far in terrans favor which is clearly too much, the burrow change wouldve been at aleast a tiny change that would help in zvt the most so i have no idea why they would revert it Why is 55% too great a discrepancy? It's obviously not ideal, but it doesn't seem unreasonable either. And is it possible that the win rates are skewed not because of balance issues, but rather due to map variance and players having yet to "figure out" the game? I think the dev team is making the right choice by reserving judgment for the time being. If the ZvT win rate trend continues for another month or two, then perhaps balance is the culprit. Until then, though, I think it's fine to wait things out. | ||
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DemigodcelpH
1138 Posts
On May 10 2013 04:40 ChristianS wrote: Actually, has IdrA complained about HotS balance just yet? I haven't kept too much track, but I have watched his stream a little. I saw complaints about other players, cheesy strats, etc. but no balance complaints. Odd when Stephano is the EG player complaining about imbalance Oddly enough the only thing he has publicly complained about is the Viper being too strong vs mech. | ||
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
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PhOeniX[MinD]
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
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Elairec
United States410 Posts
On May 10 2013 05:17 Archas wrote: Why is 55% too great a discrepancy? It's obviously not ideal, but it doesn't seem unreasonable either. And is it possible that the win rates are skewed not because of balance issues, but rather due to map variance and players having yet to "figure out" the game? I think the dev team is making the right choice by reserving judgment for the time being. If the ZvT win rate trend continues for another month or two, then perhaps balance is the culprit. Until then, though, I think it's fine to wait things out. It may be a small sample size, but given the WCS statistics, it seems like Z actually has the lead in said matchup. As for the topic, I like the "take it slow" pace for balancing HoTS. Before anyone says anything about Koreans owning up foreigners, the stats for just korea are 29 games won out of 59 played which is almost 50%, not bad. | ||
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keglu
Poland485 Posts
On May 10 2013 05:08 Tsubbi wrote: agreed, blizzard never cites their stats anyways lol, tvz is at a steady 55% so far in terrans favor which is clearly too much, the burrow change wouldve been at aleast a tiny change that would help in zvt the most so i have no idea why they would revert it Im pretty sure its much closer to 50% this month based on last results | ||
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