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MLG working on English broadcast for Proleague. - Page 4
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NotoriousBig
Germany301 Posts
nice mlg, nice... | ||
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Fischbacher
Canada666 Posts
On December 07 2012 03:03 sickoota wrote: I would really like a rebroadcast, I always wish GOM did one during EST hours, est people can't really stay up unless you have absolutely nothing going on the next day. That's what VODs are for ^^ | ||
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Gentso
United States2218 Posts
Of course they know that, but it's all business for them. They saw an opportunity and they went for it, and as a result they screwed OGN over. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 07 2012 03:07 NotoriousBig wrote: LOL, letting DOA do all the work and then anounce to broadcast it.... nice mlg, nice... Huh, I don't get it. Why is it MLG's fault for what happened and why are they stealing work from DOA??? | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
This needs to be shown  | ||
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
On December 07 2012 03:11 Gentso wrote: Of course they know that, but it's all business for them. They saw an opportunity and they went for it, and as a result they screwed OGN over. Yeah it really doesn't sound like MLG was at fault at all here. If you actually read Doa's thread, Kespa was the one who started increasing the restrictions on the English casting to unreasonable levels. Maybe MLG's offer to rebroadcast PL in English at prime time was the alternative that Kespa secretly wanted and they broke off talks with OGN since they saw a better offer (because MLG would not compete for Korean attention due to the broadcast time), but that isn't MLG's fault - at least not directly. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
Kespa doesn't mind taking the blame for this cause they don't really care about what foreigners think of them. MLG does however, so they want to appear as the white knight riding in to rescue this, when they were in fact the mastermind behind this in the first place. This isn't really a conspiracy theory as much as just what makes most business sense for MLG. | ||
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Gentso
United States2218 Posts
On December 07 2012 03:17 dcemuser wrote: Yeah it really doesn't sound like MLG was at fault at all here. If you actually read Doa's thread, Kespa was the one who started increasing the restrictions on the English casting to unreasonable levels. Maybe MLG's offer to rebroadcast PL in English at prime time was the alternative that Kespa secretly wanted and they broke off talks with OGN since they saw a better offer (because MLG would not compete for Korean attention due to the broadcast time), but that isn't MLG's fault - at least not directly. What i'm saying is that MLG IS at fault... Read post above mine to have it put in other words. | ||
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MrF
United States320 Posts
On December 07 2012 01:33 Grettin wrote: I don't mind if i have to pay for the stream (as long as it's priced decently), if the stream is English or Korean, but rebroadcast is what isn't for me. So no thanks to that. Although, i guess its great for Americans out there to watch rebroadcast instead of live due time differences. I'll stick with Live and Korean cast nevertheless. :-) yeah, staying up till like 5-6 am or later is not really DoAble for a lot of us. | ||
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Fyodor
Canada971 Posts
It's just a matter of fact that MLG is better suited to carry an English broadcast. OGN's own fault they are losing the broadcast rights. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On December 07 2012 03:29 Canucklehead wrote: I think it's more believable that MLG asked to broadcast proleague so they feel they get something out of this kespa/mlg partnership. Then kespa pulled the plug on the ogn english broadcast to appease MLG. MLG will deny it publicly, but it's hard to believe this isn't what happened behind closed doors. Kespa doesn't mind taking the blame for this cause they don't really care about what foreigners think of them. MLG does however, so they want to appear as the white knight riding in to rescue this, when they were in fact the mastermind behind this in the first place. Nice assumptions bro. Please don't pretend like you have a valid, evidence-based argument. You have nothing but leaps of logic founded on cynical assumptions. The sole piece of substantive "evidence" you provide is that MLG stands to make money off the English broadcast lol. | ||
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Gentso
United States2218 Posts
On December 07 2012 03:37 Doodsmack wrote: Nice assumptions bro. Please don't pretend like you have a valid, evidence-based argument. You have nothing but leaps of logic founded on cynical assumptions. The sole piece of substantive "evidence" you provide is that MLG stands to make money off the English broadcast lol. Assumptions is all anyone has at this point. MLG trying to get a piece of OGN's pie causing Kespa to pull the plug seems a reasonable assumption at this point. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On December 07 2012 03:37 Doodsmack wrote: The sole piece of substantive "evidence" you provide is that MLG stands to make money off the English broadcast lol. Exactly, which is why it's the strongest piece of evidence.  What has MLG done to lead you to believe money isn't their motivation in everything they do? I have nothing against MLG making money since these leagues aren't charity. Just funny to see some people think MLG's goal isn't to make money. Sounds pretty naive to me. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
You'll see, it's not that bad. | ||
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Fischbacher
Canada666 Posts
On December 07 2012 03:36 Fyodor wrote: Don't know why people like OGN so much when they put out such an embarrassing product. They insulted the global audience, KeSPA's reputation and everyone involved. It's just a matter of fact that MLG is better suited to carry an English broadcast. OGN's own fault they are losing the broadcast rights. At least OGN was doing the broadcast live. By the looks of it we won't have a livestream with MLG. Talk about a fuckin joke, EG-TL joins proleague and we won't have any legal means to watch it in English until at least a day later. MLG better get their shit towther fast, because if they don't have something ready by Saturday they will take a big PR hit. | ||
MLG_Adam
United States994 Posts
On December 07 2012 03:40 Gentso wrote: Assumptions is all anyone has at this point. MLG trying to get a piece of OGN's pie causing Kespa to pull the plug seems a reasonable assumption at this point. It is flattering that we are thought to have enough clout to move KESPA off of Korean television, but unfortunately (for us) we're not that big. We honestly found out about it this morning with DOA's post. I think @esca is the one who tweeted the thread at us. I don't know what happened with OGN and KESPA, that is their business. We have a MOU with KESPA to work together, but our businesses are not intertwined so we're certainly not privy to everything that goes on. It is 3AM in Korea, we're waiting to talk to people as well. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46583 Posts
On December 07 2012 03:17 dcemuser wrote: Yeah it really doesn't sound like MLG was at fault at all here. If you actually read Doa's thread, Kespa was the one who started increasing the restrictions on the English casting to unreasonable levels. Maybe MLG's offer to rebroadcast PL in English at prime time was the alternative that Kespa secretly wanted and they broke off talks with OGN since they saw a better offer (because MLG would not compete for Korean attention due to the broadcast time), but that isn't MLG's fault - at least not directly. I agree. MLG sounds like they're definitely helping overall, rather than hurting. (But don't forget! MLG has extended series and PPV for a few special events, and so we have to assume everything they do has evil, evil, evil intentions  ) | ||
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howLiN
Portugal1676 Posts
On December 07 2012 01:07 Lolli92 wrote: A rebroadcast in european prime time is needed, too!! I'd be happy with Korean time, it's in the morning for EU. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On December 07 2012 03:41 Canucklehead wrote: Exactly, which is why it's the strongest piece of evidence. What has MLG done to lead you to believe money isn't their motivation in everything they do? I have nothing against MLG making money since these leagues aren't charity. Just funny to see some people think MLG's goal isn't to make money. Sounds pretty naive to me.What about MLG's need to make money leads to an assumption of corruption? All businesses need to make money, but that doesn't lead to the conclusion that decisions which could theoretically be explained by corruption/conspiracy should be interpreted as such by virtue of the fact that money could be made. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On December 07 2012 03:45 MLG_Adam wrote: It is flattering that we are thought to have enough clout to move KESPA off of Korean television, but unfortunately (for us) we're not that big. Here's why I don't believe it. You're not using your clout to move Kespa off kr television. That statement is just a red herring. It's still going to be on kr television. This issue is about an english stream over the internet, not KR television. Also, MLG Lee tweeted about asking if people wanted an english broadcast of proleague a couple of days ago. That is a hint of what was to come, but your statement makes it sound like this came out of the blue for you. Was MLG Lee a prophet then and could see the future? Otherwise that would be a pretty random thing to tweet about unless he had insider knowledge of the future. On December 07 2012 03:50 Doodsmack wrote: What about MLG's need to make money leads to an assumption of corruption? All businesses need to make money, but that doesn't lead to the conclusion that decisions which could theoretically be explained by corruption/conspiracy should be interpreted as such. Where did I say anything about corruption? There's nothing corrupt about what MLG did. It's just a smart business decision for them. The MLG/Kespa relationship is pretty one sided in Kespa's favour right now, but getting to broadcast proleague will go a long way to equalizing their partnership. | ||
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