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achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
July 25 2012 16:23 GMT
#161
I have no problem with this whatsoever, altough I can see the issue for colourblinds (orb comes to mind for some reason), Hopefully they'll make stronger team colour an official mod you can change in options or smth.
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Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 16:25:41
July 25 2012 16:25 GMT
#162
I apologise for being stupid. But if I understand this. this means any file that you changed personally will be a cause for a redownload.. Meaning .. Can we stil download replays?
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MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
July 25 2012 16:25 GMT
#163
1) Since Blizzard didn't say anything about it stopping hacks and as other people have pointed out hacks don't rely on SC2 file editing, I don't understand why after 8 pages people are still talking about hacks. Exploits, maybe. Hacks, no. IIRC WoW was pretty lax on model editing initially as well, but when people started modding various PvP elements so that they stood out more and when a couple guilds creatively modded a wall or floor so that they could skip content Blizzard brought the hammer down on modding. Since someone at Blizzard did say that they liked stronger colors at one point I'm inclined to believe that this is either a beta only thing, or done to fix an exploit that Blizzard discovered with file editting.

Speaking of stronger colors and the couple posts about DLC / charging us for it .. What is that even based on? In previous games (WoW) Blizzard took community interface AddOns like Scrolling Combat Text, Outfitter, etc and implemented them into the game. For free. I haven't seen anything with SC2 to indicate that Blizzard is planning on charging us for anything.

There were 2 ways Blizzard announced that they could monetize SC2. The map shop and paid name changes. Other people said that the campaign being divided into 3 parts was a way for Blizzard to just be money hungry and take more of our money. Realstically though we're over 2 years into the game and neither paid name changes or the map shop are implemented yet - and we haven't even started the beta for the first expansion yet. So where is the greed?

I'm all for calling a company on bullshit when bullshit happens, but lets not get our panties in a twist quite yet. At this point the only thing we can/should do is let Blizzard know that we want stronger colors to stay.
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Deadbread
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany143 Posts
July 25 2012 16:27 GMT
#164
On July 26 2012 01:25 Varanice wrote:
I apologise for being stupid. But if I understand this. this means any file that you changed personally will be a cause for a redownload.. Meaning .. Can we stil download replays?

It doesn't affect replays. So yes
PauseBreak
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States270 Posts
July 25 2012 16:30 GMT
#165
On July 26 2012 01:25 Varanice wrote:
I apologise for being stupid. But if I understand this. this means any file that you changed personally will be a cause for a redownload.. Meaning .. Can we stil download replays?


Yes you can still download and watch replays.
It just means that if certain sc2 files are changed or damaged, that the client will re-download it.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 25 2012 16:35 GMT
#166
Actual hackers can bypass this sort of a thing pretty easily.

Mostly it's a bad thing because it mostly hurts the harmless customization whereas hackers can still bypass it. However if there were some exploits that this fixes I can understand doing it.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
July 25 2012 16:38 GMT
#167
Hard to not rant about casuals in here who take the ladder too seriously (it's their fault anyway and Blizzard for making the Ladder good enough, so people didn't build up a replacement). Don't really care about the Hardcore cheating that won't be stopped by this. Easy to spot, easy to leave the game next time, if everyone would do it we could rename GM into HL, GM lost its value anyway. But all the soft cheats that will often fall under the radar as superior skill will vanish.
But i think it will drive away some creative minds and this really hurts a game.

The DLC comments are funny though, if you do those more often you might trigger Blizzard to start doing it. Not that selling expansions is almost the same if you ignore the difference in price and quality.
jimbob615
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Uruguay455 Posts
July 25 2012 16:38 GMT
#168
i fkn hate casters who use that stronger team colours bull crap.. SC2 is not meant to look like some kiddie game with glowing pink and orange fairy banelings dancing all over the place
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 16:43:50
July 25 2012 16:41 GMT
#169
We have to fight this shit, this is ONE thing Blizzard liked! They said "We're glad about stronger team color" and they also liked the replay mod which allowed you to join into replays!

Common guys, don't give shit up let's tell them we want this in our games because it's bullshit.

Wait wait, does it ban your account if its changed? or does it just change the file.???
FoTG fighting!
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 16:43:36
July 25 2012 16:43 GMT
#170
double post
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fire_brand
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1123 Posts
July 25 2012 16:45 GMT
#171
On July 26 2012 01:25 MVega wrote:
There were 2 ways Blizzard announced that they could monetize SC2. The map shop and paid name changes. Other people said that the campaign being divided into 3 parts was a way for Blizzard to just be money hungry and take more of our money. Realstically though we're over 2 years into the game and neither paid name changes or the map shop are implemented yet - and we haven't even started the beta for the first expansion yet. So where is the greed?

I'm all for calling a company on bullshit when bullshit happens, but lets not get our panties in a twist quite yet. At this point the only thing we can/should do is let Blizzard know that we want stronger colors to stay.


I really don't see this as Blizzard's motivation for these changes. Starcraft already yields good revenue for them. The revenue from map sales and name change would be a fart in the wind compared to what they already bring in. The proscene is the way they monetized the game with royalties, advertising and rights fees. They don't need to monetize the game any more than they have and I don't think they have any interest in that.

The best thing for them to build the game as far as net profit from SC2 is concerned is just growing the scene and the brand. Imagine the revenue on royalties they would make if they landed a major TV cable contract or something along those lines. If sc2 got numbers similar to any of the major pro leagues in north american Blizzard's profit would skyrocket. That's what they are looking for, not chump change from selling a map or name.
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DrPhilOfdOOm
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden353 Posts
July 25 2012 17:00 GMT
#172
People go support the EU battle.net thread.
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/4940469033 Tell blizzard you want stronger team colors to stay! and someone should make a US thread if there is non allready!
Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
July 25 2012 17:24 GMT
#173
noooo my korean language pack
DrPhilOfdOOm
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden353 Posts
July 25 2012 17:26 GMT
#174
Remember to let Blizzard know that you want stronger team colors! Go to battle.net and tell them. Every voice is heared
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
July 25 2012 17:36 GMT
#175
This might actually be able to be changed guys, actually go post on the forums! if thousands of posters pop up they'll really start thinking this over, they liked team colors etc... FIGHT THE CHANGE! : D
FoTG fighting!
Tom Cruise
Profile Joined July 2012
Denmark482 Posts
July 25 2012 17:37 GMT
#176
THEY ARE AWARE OF THE ISSUE, OMG.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 25 2012 20:43 GMT
#177
If this means no more custom backgrounds, I will be very unhappy
mistamike
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland18 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-26 01:36:44
July 26 2012 01:35 GMT
#178
Fuck you blizzard. I am red-green colorblind and have been playing around with those mpq files trying to get a playable game for myself so I don't need to randomly click to place buildings and actually enjoy the gameplay. People have been asking for color mods since the beginning (remember, colorblind people represent 10% of men, i.e. close to 10% of people who play this game) without a response. How can something so incredibly simple and constantly requested go for so long without being done?

I was just starting to enjoy playing again because I could actually see what was going on. One more example that shows that they really don't listen or care about their users.

Quick edit: I couldn't care less that they're stopping modding, as long as they actually implement things people ask for.
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
July 26 2012 08:48 GMT
#179
if they removed modding in order to stop potential hackers and cheaters, i am totally fine with that
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
July 26 2012 09:43 GMT
#180
it's at least possible to delete some sounds?
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