• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:36
CEST 07:36
KST 14:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL47Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack2Weekly Cups (June 2-8): herO doubles down1[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates9GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th13Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0
StarCraft 2
General
DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Official Replay Pack BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S:Season 2 - RO8 - Group A Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Bellum Gens Elite: Stara Zagora 2025 $3,500 WardiTV European League 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance
Brood War
General
BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans?
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals RECOVER LOST BTC USDT FUNDS RECLAIMER COMPANY [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET NA Team League 6/8/2025
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Armies of Exigo - YesYes? Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 31060 users

Patch 1.5.0 - probably no more modding

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 13 14 15 Next All
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 04:22:48
July 25 2012 03:30 GMT
#1
I've tested some time ago patch 1.5.0 "Arcade Beta", and it's not just an interface patch. It reworks game client with new streaming system, that check EVERY ingame file, including renamed and overlaped files.

You can just change brightness of SC2 logo in the Battle.Net UI, bring modified texture file back to MPQ-archive and it will redownload again. There are no more way to add custom backgrounds for Battle.Net, no more Stronger Team Color mod, no more BroodWar sounds, etc etc.

I will be glad, if it's wrong and there will be a way to add new backgrounds and new resources into game without modifying original resources or any other way to customize some ingame stuff.

But with patch 1.5.0 after game launcher it will lock modified file (renamed or not, no matter) and start redownload it.

[image loading]

^ same happens with any modified file. Also method with creating new enGB.sc2assets or base.sc2assets, created in "LibertyMulti.sc2mod" folder, no longer works.

As you can see, if file was broken or modified (for example you're deleted one DDS-texture file), instead of redownloading 2 gb sized MPQ-file, it skips entire file (that is unmodified) and starts redownload only modified part of MPQ file (at screenshot it starts redownload from 272 mb to 295 mb, and not all 295 mb from zero)

You can test it now, launch SC2 Arcade Beta 1.5.0, open any MPQ file, go to Texture folder (inside MPQ file) and just change small DDS-texture (change brightness or saturation for example, modify it in any way) and bring it back to MPQ-file, where you get it from. After launcher it will redownload file and lock modified one. Same system was implemented in Diablo 3 game client, where you can't change ingame language via renaming files (like koKR to enGB), because with that it will redownload files too. Glad they added Global Play function, that will be in HotS too.

But...

But there are a good side of that game client revamp. PROBABLY less cheaters, maphackers, drophackers and other heretics. I don't know how their cheats works, but probably (I'm just guessing) some of them used same ways to alter game resources, like Stronger Team Color mod/BW sounds/Bnet backgrounds/etc. So after patch 1.5.0 come out, probably many cheats and hacks will be broken too.

P.S.

Again, here are just my assumptions based on small tests in Arcade-Beta 1.5.0. I will be VERY glad, if I'm wrong and it will be still possible to do some ingame customization.
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 03:34:55
July 25 2012 03:33 GMT
#2
I wonder if this will also have any real anti-hacking utility.
if (post == "stupid") { document.getElementById('post').style.display = 'none'; }
emichaelnd86
Profile Joined July 2011
United States39 Posts
July 25 2012 03:33 GMT
#3
Such a shame if this is really how it will be.
ㅈㅈ
OMGaZERGling
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada44 Posts
July 25 2012 03:36 GMT
#4
DAMN YOU BLIZZARD
ALL HAIL ZERG HEROS DRG - SYMBOL- NESTEA -
NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
July 25 2012 03:37 GMT
#5
Probably a step in the right direction though
Whattttt Upppppppp Im Nesteaaaaaa!!
BlackPanther
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States872 Posts
July 25 2012 03:41 GMT
#6
If it prevents hacking, then this is fantastic.
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
July 25 2012 03:41 GMT
#7
Diablo 3 has the same protection. I tried to swap the MPQ/assets file the same way I would with SC2 (pre-1.5 of course) to play Korean sounds and performs the check on game start up and downloads the correct file.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 25 2012 03:41 GMT
#8
I can see both sides of the coin for this I wish some of these features like background skins, units sounds and strong colors were already prebuilt in though.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
PauseBreak
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States270 Posts
July 25 2012 03:42 GMT
#9
Good, I'm glad Blizzard has decided to truely fix the problem instead of just banning thousands of players.
Pronkers
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia13 Posts
July 25 2012 03:42 GMT
#10
Yep, punishing their legit paying customers yet still letting pirates pirate and hackers hack.

Sounds like blizzard.
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
July 25 2012 03:42 GMT
#11
Good call by Blizzard.

Now is the perfect opportunity to ask Blizzard for features such as Stronger Team Colors, to be an option in-game.

ⱩŦ ƑⱠẬ$Ħ / ƩǤ ɈƩẬƉØƝǤ [ɌȻ] / ȊṂ.ṂṼⱣ / ẬȻƩɌ.ȊƝƝØṼẬŦȊØƝ / ẬȻƩɌ.ϟȻẬɌⱠƩŦŦ ϟⱠẬɎƩɌϟ ȻⱠẬƝ
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
July 25 2012 03:43 GMT
#12
At least Orb casts will be watchable for me.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
July 25 2012 03:43 GMT
#13
"We support and love the color mod!"

Kills it without a replacement. Solid logic.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
desarrisc
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Canada226 Posts
July 25 2012 03:46 GMT
#14
So does this block hacking or no? Has anyone got the opportunity to test this?
"Your opponent's doing anything out of the ordinary? Just go f**king kill him." -Day [9]
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 25 2012 03:46 GMT
#15
Nooooo! My Nova background with those sweet curves T_T It made playing terran so much worth it. How could you do this to me Blizzard!
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 25 2012 03:53 GMT
#16
Blizz needs to allow or add Stronger Team Colors.
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 25 2012 03:55 GMT
#17
They're doing in to make these kind of mod thing buyable in the future probably.
You know them.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
paintfive
Profile Joined September 2011
785 Posts
July 25 2012 03:55 GMT
#18
Can't blizz do mini-patches often to make hack mackers have to update their code everyday?
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 03:58:20
July 25 2012 03:56 GMT
#19
On July 25 2012 12:55 paintfive wrote:
Can't blizz do mini-patches often to make hack mackers have to update their code everyday?

They did their work better. Now it checks all time, if something changed. Diablo 3 and Arcade-Beta 1.5.0 is are very good examples of that system.

They're doing in to make these kind of mod thing buyable in the future probably.
You know them.

Mapmarket is a first step in that direction
Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
July 25 2012 03:58 GMT
#20
I'm going to miss STC. </3
eSports for life.
1 2 3 4 5 13 14 15 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 55m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft554
Livibee 129
SteadfastSC 61
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 28604
Sea 5479
Nal_rA 288
Leta 257
Shine 146
ToSsGirL 30
Icarus 12
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K898
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor106
Other Games
summit1g7053
shahzam1066
WinterStarcraft456
ViBE195
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream3643
Other Games
gamesdonequick845
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 52
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1382
Other Games
• Scarra1146
Upcoming Events
GSL Code S
3h 55m
Rogue vs GuMiho
Maru vs Solar
Online Event
18h 25m
Replay Cast
20h 25m
GSL Code S
1d 3h
herO vs Zoun
Classic vs Bunny
The PondCast
1d 4h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
OSC
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
SOOP
3 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Cheesadelphia
3 days
CSO Cup
3 days
GSL Code S
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Cure vs Percival
ByuN vs Spirit
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
2025 GSL S2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.